On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 12:22:15PM -0700, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
> Is there a script to change the rest of svn?
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> Also the externals howto should be changed to use A_CANT instead of zero.
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> -Jonathan
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> On Monday, May 26, 2014 3:00 PM, Miller Puckette <msp@ucsd.edu> wrote:
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> Aha... DOUBLE fail on my part - I wasn't enforcing A_CANT and anyhow
> almost none fo teh tlde objects were using it!  Just goes to show -
> if yuo've never tested something it probably doesn't work.
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> Should be fixed in vanilla git repo now.
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> cheers
> M
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> On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 11:17:40AM -0700, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
> > I don't see anything in the code that would keep [dsp(--[osc~] from triggering this "dsp" message to the signal object.
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> > Indeed, when I specify A_CANT as the "dsp" arg type for [osc~] and recompile it still crashes.
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> > So that may be the policy, but the design doesn't keep the message from being dispatched.
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> > -Jonathan
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> > On Monday, May 26, 2014 1:32 PM, Miller Puckette <msp@ucsd.edu> wrote:
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> > No, the A_CANT will ensure that the message never gets sent to the
> > object (because typechecking fails)
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> > You can of course send the message from C, but anyone's allowed to crash
> > Pd by introducing faulty C code :)
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> > M
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> > On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 10:23:36AM -0700, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
> > > Is that by policy or design?
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> > > In other words, if I send a msd [dsp crash_my_pd( to a signal object that defines its dsp method args using A_CANT, will it still crash?  (Not at a machine with Pd or I'd try it myself.)
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> > > -Jonathan
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> > > On Monday, May 26, 2014 1:06 PM, Miller Puckette <msp@ucsd.edu> wrote:
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> > > Just to answer one sprcific question here...
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> > > > Lyon's book explaing what A_GIMME does, but not A_CANT. I checked m_pd.h a
> > > > bit but didn't make much out of it. It is there where the problem lies?
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> > > A_CANT is used when an object receives a message but the arguments can't be
> > > safely typechecked by Pd - so these messages are refued if sent by the patch,
> > > but friendly C code can call them using a lower-level mechanism.
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> > > cheers
> > > Miller