yves,
I haven't noticed anything offensive on the list like you describe (maybe you're mixing life on the streets with life on the pd-list? :)) In my experience the discussion here is respectful and helpful, and it's *usually* about PD... I agree that there's no point in agitating to prematurely end a relevant discussion - but personally I got bored a while ago, and I don't think this thread is on-topic anymore (bored/irritated != disturbed). I think it would be a better use of everyone's time to get back to discussing Pure Data.
best,
-David M.