On 4/22/07, Alexandre Quessy <listes@sourcelibre.com> wrote:

Hi,
The desiredata crowd have done quite a lot of work to help prevent this. :)

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2007/4/22, Olivier Heinry <olivier.heinry@manga-burgah.net>:
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>  Help fight agains
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repetitive_strain_injury
> Get up and stretch your back !!
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> 2007/4/19, Hans-Christoph Steiner < hans@eds.org>:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Apr 18, 2007, at 10:33 PM, Alexandre Quessy wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > 2007/4/18, Kyle Klipowicz < kyleklip@gmail.com>:
> > >> I'm sorry, I don't have [gems/duplicate] in the version of pdmtl that
> > >> I just downloaded. It looks like a neat library though, will it be
> > >> included in pd-extended soon?
> > >
> > >
> https://devel.goto10.org/pdmtl/browser/trunk/pdmtl/gems/
> > > duplicate.pd !!
> > >
> > > I got to put it in the pd-extended build system, yes... It's just that
> > > I am having troubles with the Makefile. I need to translate something
> > > like "cp -r * /usr/lib/pd/extra/" into some recursive Makefiles unsing
> > > "install -d" and such...
> > >
> > > See
> http://www.mail-archive.com/pd-dev@iem.at/msg01399.html
> > >
> > > Any help around ? I think the best way to do it would be to copy
> > > makefiles around and then :
> > >
> > > find . -type d | xargs cd && make; done
> > >
> > > Or something... got to test. I will have more time in May. :)
> >
> > It seems that pdmtl really needs to have multi-level namespaces.
> > Perhaps in May we could work on making that happen.
> >
> > .hc
> >
> >
> > >
> > > a
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> I will try to experiment with [repeat], since it is getting
> > >> tedious to
> > >> manipulate more than 5 or 6 separate objects in the 'gemiverse.'
> > >>
> > >> ~Kyle
> > >>
> > >> On 4/18/07, Alexandre Quessy <listes@sourcelibre.com> wrote:
> > >>> Hi,
> > >>> Consider using the [repeat] object along with [separator]...
> > >>> See [gems/duplicate] in the SVN repository of the
> > >>> http://wiki.dataflow.ws/PdMtlAbstractions
> > >>>
> > >>> a
> > >>>
> > >>> 2007/4/17, Cypod <cypod25@gmail.com>:
> > >>>> Roman is right, just parenting down the chain, with small sphere
> > >>>> (proxy
> > >>>> geometry) to change the pivot control, from the center to one end.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> where separators come into play is to branch off arms and legs
> > >>>> from the main
> > >>>> body. The body's transform will still control the arm, but sibling
> > >>>> hierarchies wont affect each other. That way you can move the
> > >>>> body of the
> > >>>> character and the arms don't fall off, but if you rotate the
> > >>>> left shoulder
> > >>>> it wont affect the right shoulder or legs.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thats how I created the dancing man patch, from a wow (World of
> > >>>> War-craft)
> > >>>> character that my friend build. Its still somewhat crude, but
> > >>>> fun to be able
> > >>>> to control characters in real-time during your performance.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 4/17/07, Kyle Klipowicz < kyleklip@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>> Ok, yes. After tinkering last night a bit I found that it is
> > >>>>> indeed
> > >>>>> this simple. For some reason I was getting confused, based upon
> > >>>>> where
> > >>>>> I was putting the separators for different branches of the
> > >>>>> structure.
> > >>>>> I like this top-down approach. It makes it easy to add global
> > >>>>> modifiers at the top of the gem chain.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> ~Kyle
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On 4/17/07, Roman Haefeli < reduzierer@yahoo.de> wrote:
> > >>>>>> On Mon, 2007-04-16 at 23:32 -0500, Kyle Klipowicz wrote:
> > >>>>>>> Ok, that was a dumb question, after looking at separator.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> But it raises some questions for me: is the best way to position
> > >>>>>>> multi-geo unit, say of a sphere being orbited by smaller
> > >>>>>>> spheres, best
> > >>>>>>> accomplished by using a lot of additions, or is there a way
> > >>>>>>> to chain
> > >>>>>>> translate objects?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> if i understand you correctly, this is _very_ simple to
> > >>>>>> achieve. here an
> > >>>>>> example of a renderchain:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> [gemhead]
> > >>>>>> |
> > >>>>>> [translateXYZ] <- translate the whole planet system
> > >>>>>> around
> > >>>>>> |
> > >>>>>> [sphere 1] <- sun
> > >>>>>> |
> > >>>>>> [rotateXYZ] <- rotate around Y-axis
> > >>>>>> |
> > >>>>>> [translateXYZ 2 0 0 ]
> > >>>>>> |
> > >>>>>> [sphere 0.1] <- earth
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> you can also add the moon:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> |
> > >>>>>> [rotateXYZ] <- rotate around Y-axis
> > >>>>>> |
> > >>>>>> [translate 0.2]
> > >>>>>> |
> > >>>>>> [sphere 0.03]
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> hope, that makes it clear how to 'resolve dependencies' in gem.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> roman
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>
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