Hello Christof,
    
    These last tests were made to question what Lucarda was pointing
    out:
    "In your case we know that pd.exe or pd.com (these are the ones
      we filter via tasklist.exe) refuses to open because is blacklisted
      by the OS so detection is not working as expected (for your case,
      of course)."
    
    As during these tests Avast was totally disabled, none of pd.com,
    pd.exe and/or pd.dll could be backlisted, the same for the system.
    In add prior disabling my AV, I have checked Avast quarantine and
    nothing about any pd.*, the same for the system.
    
    Current thinking:
    The setup of my PC is not compatible with the modifications/adds
    introduced into pd.dll 0.54.0.
    I will now test the GDB-Pd[*] app workaround suggested by Lucarda.
    
      Note: I'm also waiting for the next release of Plugdata based on
      Pd 0.54.0 to see if the issue is the same or not.
      The test with Purr Data 2.19.3, which is working well, is not
      relevant as it's still using Pd 0.48.0.
      
      --------------------
      Best, Joseph
      --------------------
      
    
    Le 09/08/2023 à 02:53, Christof Ressi a
      écrit :
    
    Hi
      Joseph,
      
      
      3. Pd 0.54.0 without installation, but its
        'pd.dll' replaced with the one from 0.53.2, with 'pd.com' ran
        directly from H:\JOE-W10\Donwloads\pd-0.54-0-modified\bin.
        
             NOW, it's launching Okay.
        
      
      
      on Windows, pd.dll actually contains all the code and
      pd.exe/pd.com are just tiny shims, so your result is not too
      surprising.
      
      
      Christof
      
      = = = = = = = = = =
      On 08.08.2023 19:43, Linux ROUEN wrote:
      
      Hello Lucarda,
        
        Thanks for your suggestions. I will test them later on.
        
        
        But I think we are not searching in the right direction, at
        least for my PC setup.
        
        So I have made further investigations.
        
        
        I think the culprit on my PC could be the new 'pd.dll' file
        introduced in Pd v.0.54.0.
        
        See the attached zip file containing 3 screen captures
        highlighting what I'm saying:
        
        1. Pd 0.53.2 without installation with 'pd.com' ran directly
        from H:\JOE-W10\Donwloads\pd-0.53-2\bin.
        
             It's launching Okay.
        
        2. Pd 0.54.0 without installation with 'pd.com' ran directly
        from H:\JOE-W10\Donwloads\pd-0.54-0\bin.
        
             It's NOT launching at all, just 1 or 2 seconds but nothing
        on the screen, as during all my previous tests.
        
        3. Pd 0.54.0 without installation, but its 'pd.dll' replaced
        with the one from 0.53.2, with 'pd.com' ran directly from
        H:\JOE-W10\Donwloads\pd-0.54-0-modified\bin.
        
             NOW, it's launching Okay.
        
        
        What do you think about that?
        
        Best, Joseph
        
        
        -----Message d'origine-----
        
        De : Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-bounces@lists.iem.at] De la part de
        Lucas Cordiviola
        
        Envoyé : mardi 8 août 2023 14:44
        
        À : pd-list@lists.iem.at
        
        Objet : Re: [PD] Calling for Pd Windows installer tests.
        
        
        Hi Joseph,
        
        
        I'm following your case and it's the cause for having a "safer"
        
        installer for good.
        
        
        In your case we know that pd.exe or pd.com (these are the ones
        we filter
        
        via tasklist.exe) refuses to open because is blacklisted by the
        OS so
        
        detection is not working as expected (for your case, of course).
        
        
        Is it safe in my case to run your
          'Pd-0.54-x.windows-installer.exe' to
          
          see if I can get Pd 0.54.0 finally working on my PC ?
          
        
        You could try it but I expect it won't work because all files,
        are taken
        
        from Miller's builds and pd.exe, pd.com and pd.dll are the exact
        same
        
        ones you got blacklisted.
        
        
        But if you desperately need 0.54-0 you can use the installer new
        tool
        
        and do this pseudo install:
        
        
        IIRC you could run the GDB-Pd[*] app you got from
        
              https://nc.nubegris.com.ar/index.php/s/eKrTbHE4iyqAgAg
        
        - uncompress the folder somewhere in your machine
        
        - run the test installer
        
            - get into: "Repair Pd(64) defaults to open .pd files and
        exit"
        
              - select the main folder of your extracted GDB-Pd[*]
        
                - voilà: now .pd files opens with that Pd which is
        rather the
        
        same you get with the app installed. Note that you don't have
        any start
        
        menu, desktop short-cut, and other stuff so to start the app you
        only
        
        need to double-click on any .pd file. (and yes, with this tool
        all
        
        subsequent double-clicks on .pd files opens in the same Pd
        instance)
        
        
        [*] this app contains a 32bit tcl/tk. AFAICT the only thing that
        does
        
        not work is the dnd-plugin.
        
        
        Lucarda
        
        --
        
        Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.
        
        = = = = = = = = = =
        
        On 08/08/2023 08:41, Linux ROUEN wrote:
        
        Hello Lucarda,
          
          
          My PC is running under Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 22H2 (build
          19045.3208), and yes it has tasklist.exe v.10.0.19041.1. as of
          2019/07/12.
          
          Unfortunately I still can't run Pd Vanilla 0.54.0 since I
          tried to update it about one month ago. See my previous emails
          on this subject.
          
          
          * All the following tests are done with my Avast antivirus
          totally disabled.
          
          
          1. While Pd is running, run the installer
          'Pd-0.54-x.windows-installer.exe'
          
          - Trying to run Pd but nothing on the screen, only Wish
          Application is running in the background.
          
          - Now running Pd-0.54-x.windows-installer.exe, at the 4th
          window there are 3 choices:
          
              . Continue (normal installation)
          
              . Clear Pd preferences and exit
          
              . Repair Pd(64) defaults to open .pd files and exit
          
              I choose Continue
          
          - On the 5th screen I get:
          
              . Run the uninstaller (recommended)
          
              . Install as an alternate app
          
              . Continue
          
              I choose Cancel
          
          I reboot my PC under Windows.
          
          
          2. Pd is not running, run the installer
          'Pd-0.54-x.windows-installer.exe'
          
          - I checked than neither Wisk nor Pd are running, which is the
          case.
          
          - Now running Pd-0.54-x.windows-installer.exe at the 4th
          window there are 3 choices (same as in above 1.):
          
              . Continue (normal installation)
          
              . Clear Pd preferences and exit
          
              . Repair Pd(64) defaults to open .pd files and exit
          
              I choose Continue
          
          - On the 5th screen I get (same as in above 1.):
          
              . Run the uninstaller (recommended)
          
              . Install as an alternate app
          
              . Continue
          
              I choose Cancel
          
          
          QUESTION:
          
          Is it safe in my case to run your
          'Pd-0.54-x.windows-installer.exe' to see if I can get Pd
          0.54.0 finally working on my PC ?
          
          
          Thanks. Best,
          
          Joseph Gastelais
          
        
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