my best idea is to use [namecanvas $0-parent] on the parent, <br><br>..then get the coordinates of the abstraction, and dynamically send a message to the parent to move the abstraction by 1 pixel, and then move it back again.<br>
<br>but i searched the list archives and didn&#39;t find a satisfactory way to get the coordinates of an abstraction.<br><br><br>