On Dec 12, 2017, at 12:00 PM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm well aware of it and haven't been able to figure it out. It seems to be another detail that comes with the Cocoa backend to Tk 8.5+. The second thing is that Pd windows *always* open above everything else. This was also not the case with Tk 8.4. Oh well... I suppose that's better than not bing able to run Pd at all on 10.13 and I'm, not sure I have another *week* to track it down right now.

On Dec 8, 2017, at 7:13 PM, pd-list-request@lists.iem.at wrote:

Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2017 11:12:52 -0500
From: Martin Hiendl <martin@martinhiendl.com>
To: pd-list@lists.iem.at
Subject: [PD] Scroll bar behaviour
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Hi list,

Sorry if this has already been brought up somewhere and I couldn't
find it… Since 0.48-0 I'm having a weird behavior with the scroll
bars. As soon as I resize a window, the scroll bars show up even
though the window is bigger than the patch. The only way to make them
disappear again is to either a) click the title bar and drag the
window somewhere else on the screen or b) select all objects in the
patch and move them in any direction. After having done either one of
these once, the window and the scroll bars behave normally again.

Anyone else experiences that?

I'm on mac OS 10.13.2

best
Martin

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