Tnx, will do it next time, as there is a workaround mo big problem.

Seppo

Am 09.05.2020 um 17:02 schrieb Dan Wilcox <danomatika@gmail.com>:

It's good to check the issues on Github:

https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/670

The short answer is that it is a Tcl/Tk problem.

The long answer is that this was something that was fixed for a while, then macOS updated and it broke in Tk again. Tk development is a bit behind on macOS and it's difficult to keep in sync as Pd requires an older version of Tk to support old versions of macOS back to 10.6. Fixing this will require yet another manual patch to the Tk 8.5 source code which I cannot even build on my macOS 10.14 system any more.

On May 9, 2020, at 12:00 PM, pd-list-request@lists.iem.at wrote:

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Hopefully this had not been mentioned before, but didn't find something about this:
Tested under Windows 10 and OSX 10.14 and 10.15 and pd 50.02

If a patch is  edited it witha second  Display attached and this is missing later on  and the patch contains negative  coordinates like:
#N canvas -1374 447 879 555 10; 
pd crashes on osx and the file does not open on windows 10 (at least not my and my students machines)
If we edit it to something existing like #N canvas 50 50 879 555 10; it works fine.
Don’t know if this is a tkl/tk or pd problem ?

best
Seppo
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