hat's why you need to introduce another external "hexloader", and make sure it always loads first.
but why don't I need this when I load the cyclone externals?
2016-02-14 14:31 GMT-02:00 Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list <pd-list@lists.iem.at
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Pd namespaces and the Pd loading mechanism are too complex to change without a spec for both the current and proposed system.
Problems of not thinking ahead: unnecessary code duplication like flatspace, replacing one problem with another like one-class-per-file libdir, the whole svn personal-cloud-workspace-as-a-library deal in the first place, and so on...
For example: the one-clas-per-file-libdir is the reason you can't easily have externals with names like "<~" and ">~". Internal classes are loaded by default from files that have alphanumeric names, so there it isn't a problem. That's why you need to introduce another external "hexloader", and make sure it always loads first. (Plus the new bother of mapping hex values to ASCII characters in file names, and remembering how to read those names.)
-Jonathan
On Sunday, February 14, 2016 10:52 AM, Ivica Bukvic ico@vt.edu wrote:
What I am also trying to do eventually in pd-l2ork is weed out redundant objects and only keep the ones that do the said task the best while still supporting other objects' idiosyncrasies (if any). There is absolutely no reason to have multiple objects of the same kind. Ultimately, one could keep all the externals in the same folder and completely do away with all the declares, imports, and other things that make learning pd unnecessarily harder. -- Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A. Associate Professor Computer Music ICAT Senior Fellow Director -- DISIS, L2Ork Virginia Tech School of Performing Arts – 0141 Blacksburg, VA 24061 (540) 231-6139 ico@vt.edu www.performingarts.vt.edu disis.icat.vt.edu l2ork.icat.vt.edu ico.bukvic.net On Feb 14, 2016 8:40 AM, "Fred Jan Kraan" fjkraan@xs4all.nl wrote:
Hi Alexandre,
guess some of it is in: http://fjkraan.home.xs4all.nl/digaud/puredata/cyclone/cycloneToDo.html
This list is also becoming a list of what has been done.
As with _nettles_
"try to resurrect as independent object library"
Anyway, tell me if this gets includes on this file.
Yes, the nettles-objects are part of the latest cyclone versions. They are part of the nettles library, which can be loaded with [declare]. Not all operating systems like the '<' and '>' in the object names and there is overlap with other library objects, so only loading them when needed is cleaner.
cheers
ps. count me in for help with the help files
Great!
Greetings,
Fred Jan
2016-02-11 22:18 GMT-02:00 Alexandre Torres Porres <porres@gmail.com mailto:porres@gmail.com>:
Howdy, it's a known fact brazilians will start the year only after carnival, so here I am. I'd like to share my list of things to do with existing Cyclone Objetcs. Obviously there might be other issues with other objects that would make them up to date with the current version of Max (Max 7). Nonetheless, this is what I find relevant, and I've been really checking it through. It's only about 11 objects, some has already been discussed here and might have been fixed or in the process to be taken care of, forgive me if so. I have it attached and also as a link to a google dochttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1L_dUNgznfhaZHPKMJ3jJ_p9uIXRVP6Rs9-3nXy2Q...
Next, I will get together a list of new objects I think should be included, many of which I've already made as abstractions (kind of to show how it works like I did with [teeth~], cause I really think they should all be done as externals). Cheers
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