And here are my results running those tests:

/Applications/Pd-0.55-0test3a.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -send "pd quit"
0.02s user 0.03s system 1% cpu 2.987 total

time /Applications/Pd-0.55-0test3a.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -nosound -send "pd quit"
0.02s user 0.03s system 1% cpu 2.976 total

time /Applications/Pd-0.55-0test3a.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -noprefs -send "pd quit"
0.02s user 0.03s system 1% cpu 3.150 total

time /Applications/Pd-0.55-0test3a.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -nostdpath -send "pd quit"
0.02s user 0.03s system 1% cpu 3.073 total

The same tests with 54-1 give me cpu times of about 0.35sec. And (probably unrelated), with 55-0, I get "error: error parsing startup arguments" when running each of these despite the arguments appearing to have their effect. With 54-1 I don't get the error post.


On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 1:33 AM Miller Puckette <mpuckette@cloud.ucsd.edu> wrote:
Hmm, sounds like there are more than one problem...

Can you (and Ben too if he's willing) try these...

time ..../Pd-0.55-0test2c.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -send "pd quit"

time ..../Pd-0.55-0test2c.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -nosound -send
"pd quit"

time ..../Pd-0.55-0test2c.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -noprefs -send
"pd quit"

time ..../Pd-0.55-0test2c.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -nostdpath -send
"pd quit"

I'm grasping at straws here :) Guessing that William's 8-second startup
and new popup might be something external that's fighting with some Mac
plist setting in Pd that might have changed.

thanks
M

On 6/1/24 12:12 AM, William Brent wrote:
> Thanks for this new release! Unfortunately, I can confirm the extra
> startup delay for macOS... I tested on an M1 machine with 64GB of
> memory running macOS 14.5.
>
> Also, I get the attached popup every time I open the app, even after
> clicking "allow." Maybe there's something in macOS preferences that
> will suppress it? After clicking "allow," it takes a full 8sec for the
> Pd window to appear. I've only timed this casually with my watch at
> this point, but after trying multiple times I can say that it's
> consistently around 8sec for me here. Pd-0.54-1 consistently springs
> to life in about 1sec for me.
>
> I'm happy to run any specific test routines if I can be useful on this.
> William
>
>
> On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 1:10 PM Miller Puckette
> <mpuckette@cloud.ucsd.edu> wrote:
>
>     Test 3 is out.  This should resolve all the trouble we've had with
>     test2
>     except that one tester on MacOS is still finding that Pd 0.55
>     loads way
>     more slowly than 0.54 - I  don't see that happening on my machine
>     and I
>     don't know how many machines will be affected... it might take a
>     while
>     to track this one down, but hopefully it won't affect many
>     people.  If
>     you _do_ notice longer startup times on MacOS please let me (or
>     the Pd
>     list) know - with more data points it migth be easier for me to
>     replicate the problem for myself.
>
>     as usual: http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm OR
>     https://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm
>
>     source on github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data
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>     cheers
>
>     Miller
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