Hi,

Would you have told this joke in a room with children within earshot? I
hope not. The pd-list should be thought of a such a room. It's a room
with many many different people of different ages and sexes, with
different cultural backgrounds. It's a room where anybody is free to
come and hear about Pure Data and share and learn, not where they come
to be told offensive jokes. It's a room where it would be really nice
if everyone's 12 and 15 year old sisters who want to learn about Pd felt
completely comfortable.

This list is about a versatile audio visual tool. I can think of
absolutely no good reason why anybody who wants to learn about a versatile
audio visual tool should have to feel offended or threatened here. I guess
the key is to remember that not everybody here is just like you. Not
everyone is offended, or not offended by the same jokes. Not everyone
is interested in the same things.

Yes, I am asking you to self censor. Just like you would self censor
when you visit your grandmother. I am asking you to show some universal
respect and consideration, which is not very difficult at all. If you
want to express those kinds of things, please choose a different
audience and forum, as this one is on the whole, not interested.

Best regards,

Chris.

On Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 03:26:34PM -0400, vade wrote:
> Its a joke. Get over it. Comedians do it at venues of over a 1000 all
> the time. Ever hear of George Carlin, Bill Hicks, Eddy Murphy (back
> when he was funny..), etc etc.
>
> Whether or not the PD list is the place for this, well, frankly, I'll
> agree it isnt, but that was my point about 3.5^10 emails ago - this
> thread is mind boggingly off topic -  but that did not stop
> discussion over such amazingly interesting topics as the etymology of
> sexism,  constructive comments about street jargon, academia and fun
> statistics over who applied and got accepted to what.
>
> Jesus fucking christ, its a joke about CONSENSUAL SEX USING PD
> OBJECTS AS A METAPHOR. OH NO. OH DEAR GOD OH MENSTRUATION. OH YUCK
> BOO HOO.
>
> No one notices Hard off also making fun of himself there. Ah, so
> typically one sided.
>
> Look.
> We are all humans.
> Some of us have vaginas, others penises. (hell some even have both)
> Some of us use PD and/or other Dataflow languages.
> Can we PLEASE GET OVER IT ALREADY?
>
> That email was more a comment on the lunacy of the aforementioned
> thread as well as some of you over intellectualizing every goddamn
> last minutiae of the topic - rather than an actual genuine heartfelt
> AFFRONT TO ALL OF WOMANKIND.
>
> Perhaps if you took of your lab coat, removed the various PHDs from
> behind your desk, and any other assorted academic paraphernalia that
> may be laying about* - including the self righteousness - you might
> see that last email as an attempt to cut through the bullshit of this
> topic. Im sorry I have to spell it out for you.
>
> *I am well aware that you and others may literally have said items
> behind your potentially non existing desk, however, I hope you can
> all grok the metaphor - somehow I feel ill be disappointed yet again...
>
> The bottom line is, if PD is going to be used by Artists, prepare to
> be offended.
>
> On Oct 26, 2007, at 2:20 PM, Alexandre Castonguay wrote:
>
> >I think the post and this attitude has no place on this list. The
> >use of
> >objects is smart but it doesn't excuse the moronic and offensive
> >nature of
> >the post.  What makes you think that your freedom of speech should
> >come at
> >the expense of women feeling violated and insulted?  I wonder if
> >you would
> >state something like that before a crowd of 1000.  I feel disgusted.
> >
> >Alexandre
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>Haha. That made my day. Well done.
> >>
> >>Yeah, calling him a virgin, real original.
> >>
> >>On Oct 26, 2007, at 6:39 AM, hard off wrote:
> >>
> >>>i went to the [pool] last week, and met this zexy girl,  she was a
> >>>real GEM - a totally rradical chick.
> >>>
> >>>We started to [swap] some glances, and not being one to do anything
> >>>[unauthorized], i asked her, "hey, do you want to [route]?"
> >>>
> >>>..she said "sorry it's that [time] of the month"
> >>>
> >>>and i said, "hey, don't worry, i can part your red sea like [moses]"
> >>>
> >>>..she gave me a [stripnote], so i pulled down her panties, opened
> >>>her
> >>>[spigot], and then after a bit of a [delay] we got [hip~] to [hip~]
> >>>and had a good ol' fashioned [bang] .
> >>>
> >>>after several minutes with our bodies in a tight [wrap~],  she asked
> >>>to [change] positions, so i took out my [vslider] from her
> >>>[openpanel]
> >>>and put her on the kitchen [table].
> >>>
> >>>she was ready to [receive] my [pipe] again.  so i thrust my [outlet]
> >>>into her [inlet], stopping occasionally to [switch~] positions,
> >>>[until] finally she let out a loud [noise~] and i shot my
> >>>[loadbang].
> >>>
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