>> Is the firewall on ...?
firewall is off

>> ping localhost
ping: cannot resolve localhost: Unknown host

>> with -nogui in Terminal ala
n$ /Volumes/U/Pd-0.48-0test3.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -nogui -verbose
input channels = 2, output channels = 2
Pd-0.48.0 ("test3") compiled 22:16:32 Jul 19 2017
error: Ignoring invalid font-metrics from GUI!
Pt_Start() called

>> is that the classic messed up /private/etc/hosts file?
yeah this is what I found there:
https://github.com/lennylxx/ipv6-hosts

>> Desperately installing the Adobe crack on OS X and in the process of hindering it of calling home deleting the localhost line?
not sure what this means... so delete this file?

so, the /private/etc/hosts file "Hosts file which is used for improving IPv6 access speed to Google, YouTube, Facebook, Wikipedia, etc. in Mainland China."

... and yes the student is from china so that explains this at least.

so what do I do now? :)

this gets us into privacy laws, china gov laws?, no idea, etc. which turns this to a much deeper discussion since I assume we are here to support as many students as possible but without fully understanding what a systems level change could potentially do once students return to native country I really have no experience or clue here....

max, you have some experience here no?

well anyway, might there be a work around for now? or could pd issue a warning like "is your firewall on?" OR "sup with your /private/etc/hosts file?

thanks!
m


On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:09 AM, Max <abonnements@revolwear.com> wrote:
is that the classic messed up /private/etc/hosts file? Desperately installing the Adobe crack on OS X and in the process of hindering it of calling home deleting the localhost line?

ping localhost




On 2017년 07월 21일 16:01, me.grimm wrote:
same stuff going on here... what to be done?

test3
$ /Volumes/U/Pd.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -verbose
input channels = 2, output channels = 2
Pd-0.48.0 ("test3") compiled 07:55:09 Jul 21 2017
port 5400
"/Volumes/U/Pd.app/Contents/Resources/../MacOS/Pd" 5400
Waiting for connection request...
WARNING: connect to pd failed, retrying port localhost:5400.
WARNING: connect to pd failed, retrying port localhost:5400.
WARNING: connect to pd failed, retrying port localhost:5400.
WARNING: connect to pd failed, retrying port localhost:5400.
WARNING: connect to pd failed, retrying port localhost:5400.
WARNING: connect to pd failed, retrying port localhost:5400.
WARNING: connect to pd failed, retrying port localhost:5400.
WARNING: connect to pd failed, retrying port localhost:5400.
^CPd: signal 2
gui socket 0 - closing audio...
closing MIDI...
... done.

from this morn git pull
$ /Volumes/U/Pd-0.48-0test3.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -verbose
input channels = 2, output channels = 2
Pd-0.48.0 ("test3") compiled 22:16:32 Jul 19 2017
port 5400
"/Volumes/U/Pd-0.48-0test3.app/Contents/Resources/../MacOS/Pd" 5400
Waiting for connection request...
WARNING: connect to pd failed, retrying port localhost:5400.
WARNING: connect to pd failed, retrying port localhost:5400.
WARNING: connect to pd failed, retrying port localhost:5400.
WARNING: connect to pd failed, retrying port localhost:5400.
WARNING: connect to pd failed, retrying port localhost:5400.
WARNING: connect to pd failed, retrying port localhost:5400.
WARNING: connect to pd failed, retrying port localhost:5400.
WARNING: connect to pd failed, retrying port localhost:5400.
WARNING: connect to pd failed, retrying port localhost:5400.
^CPd: signal 2
gui socket 0 - closing audio...
closing MIDI...
... done.
$

On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 11:37 AM, Miller Puckette <msp@ucsd.edu <mailto:msp@ucsd.edu>> wrote:

    Thanks.. and how does "test3" behave?  It's compiled with 8.5-gen
    Tcl/TK - should behave like "test1" ded, except with better
    text spacing.

    M

    On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 11:08:30AM -0400, me.grimm wrote:
     > ok... got a chance to test this morn.
     >
     > miller test02 (pd icon just bounces in the dock)
     >
     > $ /Volumes/U/Pd-0.48-0test2.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -verbose
     > input channels = 2, output channels = 2
     > Pd-0.48.0 ("test2") compiled 08:40:39 Jul 19 2017
     > port 5400
     > "/Volumes/U/Pd-0.48-0test2.app/Contents/Resources/../MacOS/Pd" 5400
     > Waiting for connection request...
     > WARNING: connect to pd failed, retrying port localhost:5400.
     > WARNING: connect to pd failed, retrying port localhost:5400.
     > WARNING: connect to pd failed, retrying port localhost:5400.
     > ^CPd: signal 2
     > gui socket 0 - closing audio...
     > closing MIDI...
     > ... done.
     > $
     >
     >
     > my compile with tk 8.6.6 (tk "feather" icon just bounces in the dock
     >
     > $ /Volumes/U/Pd.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -verbose
     > input channels = 2, output channels = 2
     > Pd-0.48.0 ("test1") compiled 16:38:24 Jul 19 2017
     > port 5400
     > "/Volumes/U/Pd.app/Contents/Resources/../MacOS/Pd" 5400
     > Waiting for connection request...
     > WARNING: connect to pd failed, retrying port localhost:5400.
     > WARNING: connect to pd failed, retrying port localhost:5400.
     > WARNING: connect to pd failed, retrying port localhost:5400.
     > WARNING: connect to pd failed, retrying port localhost:5400.
     > WARNING: connect to pd failed, retrying port localhost:5400.
     > WARNING: connect to pd failed, retrying port localhost:5400.
     > WARNING: connect to pd failed, retrying port localhost:5400.
     > WARNING: connect to pd failed, retrying port localhost:5400.
     > WARNING: connect to pd failed, retrying port localhost:5400.
     > WARNING: connect to pd failed, retrying port localhost:5400.
     > WARNING: connect to pd failed, retrying port localhost:5400.
     > WARNING: connect to pd failed, retrying port localhost:5400.
     > WARNING: connect to pd failed, retrying port localhost:5400.
     > WARNING: connect to pd failed, retrying port localhost:5400.
     > WARNING: connect to pd failed, retrying port localhost:5400.
     > WARNING: connect to pd failed, retrying port localhost:5400.
     > WARNING: connect to pd failed, retrying port localhost:5400.
     > ^CPd: signal 2
     > gui socket 0 - closing audio...
     > closing MIDI...
     > ... done.
     > $
     >
     >
     > tell me what to try and i will since i have access to student
    computer next
     > couple weeks....
     >
     > cheers
     > m
     >
     >
     > On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Miller Puckette <msp@ucsd.edu
    <mailto:msp@ucsd.edu>> wrote:
     >
     > > Can you try with "test2"? (on my site, just now uploaded it).
     > >
     > > thanks
     > > Miller
     > >
     > > On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 06:00:36PM +0200, Dan Wilcox wrote:
     > > > The error indicates the pd core has crashed or is not
    running. Sometimes
     > > this also happens if the pd proves has hung in the background. Open
     > > Activity Monitor and make sure there is no "pd" processing
    running, if so
     > > then kill it.
     > > >
     > > > As a test, try running the pd core from the command line in
    Terminal:
     > > >
     > > >     /Applications/Pd-VERSION.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd
     > > >
     > > > You can at least see some info. You can also run it with the
    -verbose
     > > flag to see even more info.
     > > >
     > > > > On Jul 18, 2017, at 11:21 PM, pd-list-request@lists.iem.at
    <mailto:pd-list-request@lists.iem.at> wrote:
     > > > >
     > > > > Subject: Re: [PD] Macbook Air Errors with 0.48 Test 1
     > > > > Date: July 18, 2017 at 10:16:13 PM GMT+2
     > > > > To: Miller Puckette <msp@ucsd.edu <mailto:msp@ucsd.edu>
    <mailto:msp@ucsd.edu <mailto:msp@ucsd.edu>>>
     > > > > Cc: "pd-list@lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>
    <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>>" <
     > > pd-list@lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>
    <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>>>
     > > > >
     > > > >
     > > > > sierra indicates
     > > > >
     > > > > 10.12
     > > > >
     > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacOS_Sierra
    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacOS_Sierra> <https://en.wikipedia.org/
     > > wiki/MacOS_Sierra>
     > > > >
     > > > >
     > > > >> On 18 Jul 2017, at 21:55, Miller Puckette <msp@ucsd.edu
    <mailto:msp@ucsd.edu> <mailto:

     > > msp@ucsd.edu <mailto:msp@ucsd.edu>>> wrote:
     > > > >>
     > > > >> Really 10.2.5?  Not 10.5?
     > > > >>
     > > > >> I've tested on 10.6.  I ues I'd better try an earlier one :)
     > > > >>
     > > > >> M
     > > > >>
     > > > >> On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 02:39:06PM -0400, me.grimm wrote:
     > > > >>> Hello,
     > > > >>>
     > > > >>> So I have a student with a Macbook Air. Pd 0.47.1 that she
     > > downloaded hangs
     > > > >>> and quits as detailed here:
     > > > >>>
    https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2016-12/117154.html
    <https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2016-12/117154.html> <
     > >
    https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2016-12/117154.html
    <https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2016-12/117154.html>>
     > > > >>>
     > > > >>> then miller said he maybe fixed?
     > > > >>>
    https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2016-12/117157.html
    <https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2016-12/117157.html> <
     > >
    https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2016-12/117157.html
    <https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2016-12/117157.html>>
     > > > >>>
     > > > >>> So I just tried the version (recent test) i recently
    compiled and
     > > that
     > > > >>> opens (sort of) but I get now Pd window. I did get error:
     > > > >>>
     > > > >>> Not connected to 'pd' process
     > > > >>> Not connected to 'pd' process
     > > > >>>    while executing
     > > > >>> "error "Not connected to 'pd' process""
     > > > >>>    (procedure "pdsend" line 6)
     > > > >>>    invoked from within
     > > > >>> "pdsend "pd audio-properties""
     > > > >>>    (procedure "::tk::mac::ShowPreferences" line 3)
     > > > >>>    invoked from within
     > > > >>> "::tk::mac::ShowPreferences"
     > > > >>>
     > > > >>> shes on macbook air 10.2.5 (sierra) 13" early 2015
     > > > >>>
     > > > >>> I know there has been trouble running Pd on Macbook Airs
    in the past
     > > and
     > > > >>> would like to nail whats wrong. let me know what to do to
    test while
     > > I have
     > > > >>> access to this machine for the next couple weeks.
     > > > >>>
     > > > >>> thanks!

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