Hallo, Derek Holzer hat gesagt: // Derek Holzer wrote:
and thanks for all that! I'll make sure it goes into every tutorial I ever write ever again ;-)
But actually, what I was referring to was this problem of--for example--having a feedback system where the send~ is inside a subpatch and the receive~ is outside of it. IIRC, you have to be very careful about whether you create the send~ subpatch first or the receive~ first.
Just remember, that everything, that is connected directly trough signal cords, will be evaluated top to bottom, and everything that is not connected through signal chords, will be evaluated in "random" order, but it can be made to appear to be connected with signal cords by putting it into subpatches, even if these subpatches are just connected with dummy in/outlet~s.
One way gave me a DSP loop and the other way didn't, and I couldn't figure out why it would work like that at all. Maybe I'll have to sit down and make an example of what I mean, or you could try it for yourself and see. This problem made me totally crazy while trying to make a feedback-modulated AM/FM synth several months ago.
For feedback stuff you will always have one block delay. So the goal should be to get the smallest block size possible/necessary, and you do that by re-block~ing a *single* subpatch. Inside of this subpatch one should put only the objects necessary, nothing more, to save CPU cycles. You may forget about the [pd write]---[pd read] stuff as soon as feedback is involved, it won't help anyway.
Ciao
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