Can you (and Ben too if he's willing) try these...
sure! - here are my results for the new Pd-0.55-0test3a (or did you actually mean to check Pd-0.55-0test2c once more?) with 'time': /Applications/Pd-0.55-0test3a.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -send "pd quit" 0.03s user 0.02s system 2% cpu 2.132 total /Applications/Pd-0.55-0test3a.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -noverbose -send 0.02s user 0.03s system 2% cpu 2.202 total /Applications/Pd-0.55-0test3a.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -noverbose -send 0.01s user 0.02s system 2% cpu 1.532 total /Applications/Pd-0.55-0test3a.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -noverbose -send 0.02s user 0.02s system 2% cpu 2.132 total
... there's a bit of variation though - therefore i'm additionally measuring with repeated runs through hyperfine with a "warmup" (as learnt from iohannes' tests ... see https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2024-05/133227.html and https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2024-05/133242.html ):
hyperfine --warmup 3 -L params '-send "pd quit"','-nosound -send "pd quit"','-noprefs -send "pd quit"','-nostdpath -send "pd quit"' '/Applications/Pd-0.55-0test3a.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd {params}'
Benchmark 1: /Applications/Pd-0.55-0test3a.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -send "pd quit" Time (mean ± σ): 1.545 s ± 0.007 s [User: 0.017 s, System: 0.015 s] Range (min … max): 1.530 s … 1.553 s 10 runs
Benchmark 2: /Applications/Pd-0.55-0test3a.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -nosound -send "pd quit" Time (mean ± σ): 1.545 s ± 0.008 s [User: 0.017 s, System: 0.015 s] Range (min … max): 1.531 s … 1.554 s 10 runs
Benchmark 3: /Applications/Pd-0.55-0test3a.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -noprefs -send "pd quit" Time (mean ± σ): 1.524 s ± 0.016 s [User: 0.010 s, System: 0.014 s] Range (min … max): 1.505 s … 1.559 s 10 runs
Benchmark 4: /Applications/Pd-0.55-0test3a.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -nostdpath -send "pd quit" Time (mean ± σ): 1.546 s ± 0.015 s [User: 0.017 s, System: 0.015 s] Range (min … max): 1.529 s … 1.581 s 10 runs
... so these results are quite similar (unless started with "-nogui")
i also got the dialog that william mentions though. could this be connected? are those test versions signed the same way as Pd-0.54-1? i gave them permission manually in the security settings to avoid the repeated warnings and didn't remember if i did the same for pd-0.54-1. but obviously, it's not necessary there (just reinstalled that one to check, too ... hoping i didn't miss any persisting settings there!).
cheers, ben
On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 7:33 AM Miller Puckette mpuckette@cloud.ucsd.edu wrote:
Hmm, sounds like there are more than one problem...
Can you (and Ben too if he's willing) try these...
time ..../Pd-0.55-0test2c.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -send "pd quit"
time ..../Pd-0.55-0test2c.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -nosound -send "pd quit"
time ..../Pd-0.55-0test2c.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -noprefs -send "pd quit"
time ..../Pd-0.55-0test2c.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -nostdpath -send "pd quit"
I'm grasping at straws here :) Guessing that William's 8-second startup and new popup might be something external that's fighting with some Mac plist setting in Pd that might have changed.
thanks M
On 6/1/24 12:12 AM, William Brent wrote:
Thanks for this new release! Unfortunately, I can confirm the extra startup delay for macOS... I tested on an M1 machine with 64GB of memory running macOS 14.5.
Also, I get the attached popup every time I open the app, even after clicking "allow." Maybe there's something in macOS preferences that will suppress it? After clicking "allow," it takes a full 8sec for the Pd window to appear. I've only timed this casually with my watch at this point, but after trying multiple times I can say that it's consistently around 8sec for me here. Pd-0.54-1 consistently springs to life in about 1sec for me.
I'm happy to run any specific test routines if I can be useful on this. William
On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 1:10 PM Miller Puckette mpuckette@cloud.ucsd.edu wrote:
Test 3 is out. This should resolve all the trouble we've had with test2 except that one tester on MacOS is still finding that Pd 0.55 loads way more slowly than 0.54 - I don't see that happening on my machine and I don't know how many machines will be affected... it might take a while to track this one down, but hopefully it won't affect many people. If you _do_ notice longer startup times on MacOS please let me (or the Pd list) know - with more data points it migth be easier for me to replicate the problem for myself. as usual: http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm OR https://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm source on github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data__;!!Mih3wA!GVjycnnXvxANGR5EvpOhP-gDSVl648XDg2uY4mOCl4Bx2j-OYstW0TnDQ7n7R0W2zf5OF7RaFNFSCSjeka4$> cheers Miller _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce@lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce__;!!Mih3wA!GVjycnnXvxANGR5EvpOhP-gDSVl648XDg2uY4mOCl4Bx2j-OYstW0TnDQ7n7R0W2zf5OF7RaFNFSA-t2mYg$> _______________________________________________ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list__;!!Mih3wA!GVjycnnXvxANGR5EvpOhP-gDSVl648XDg2uY4mOCl4Bx2j-OYstW0TnDQ7n7R0W2zf5OF7RaFNFSC4IW8vI$>-- William Brent
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