On 24/12/2014 06:18, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list wrote:

Hi list,

I've been investigating other guis as possible replacements for tcl/tk gui. A few reasons:

* tk is slow to redraw

* no anti-aliasing except on OSX

* poor support for theming

* poor support for standard image formats

* binary alpha channel

* limited control of font properties on canvas

* lack of proper canvas zooming
* non-standard file save/open dialogs

* lack of common gui-toolkit tools like tooltips and rich text

* too much bit-rot in third-party libraries to work around all the above

Good point.
In my opinion, graphical stuff requires a lot of effort (in code/design and, of course, for the portability).
I really *LOVE* the pd (well... I prefer pd-extended :) ) graphical philosophy: small bocks, no exploding rainbows of color. Simple and elegant.

Can be better? Probably. Especially considering the issues presented by Jonathan. But I think that will be a huge milestone (in terms of effort). Ok... the modular nature of pd can help a lot in order to make smooth transitions.

To the technical side, which tk?
1. JUCE: multiplatform
2. FlowCanvas (now Ganv, http://drobilla.net/software/flowcanvas/): technically is not a tk, but a widget for Gtkmm, but its a nice widget for drawing "boxes and lines" (cit. Drobilla) stuff.

Cheers

Alessio

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-Jonathan

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