- Jonathan Wilkes jancsika@yahoo.com [2014-01-25 00:28]:
On 01/24/2014 05:31 PM, Peter P. wrote:
Johnathan WIlkins wrote:
I'd be curious to know what window manager you are using.
Try going into pd-gui.tcl and find the line: # tk scaling 1
Remove the "#", save the file, and then restart Pd. See if that solves the problem. (Depending on how you are running Pd, you may need to have privileges to edit that file) -Jonathan
I am using fluxbox.
Indeed, editing /usr/local/lib/pd/tcl/pd-gui.tcl to yield tk scaling 1 solved the problem for me.
Interestingly there is a file /usr/local/bin/pd-gui.tcl present as well, whose changes do not have an effet. This Pd is installed using "make install" from within Miller's git sources. I wonder why pd-gui.tcl is installed twice on my system, the latter one also being in my $PATH.
Thank you again for this quick one Jonathan.
There is a comment related to tk scaling in this very file just above the scaling option: # we are not using Tk scaling, so fix it to 1 on all platforms. This # guarantees that patches will be pixel-exact on every platform # 2013.07.19 msp - trying without this to see what breaks - it's # having # deleterious effects on dialog window font sizes.
Would be interesting to know wonder what the deletrious effects were.
Tk has a very friendly but very small community without the resources to make sure everything works as advertised across all platforms. So depending on which platform you use you'll see different symptoms, depending on how well tk is integrated with the guts of the window manager (in GNU/Linux, this would be "not at all"), the accuracy of the info delivered to Tk from the OS/window manager, implementation features/bugs in a particular graphics subsystem, etc.
One detail is that if you let [tk scaling] do its thing, you'll see problems in the postscript output if you print a patch. There's an ugly fix somewhere for this which requires hacking the ps output to scale it by the tk scaling factor.
But if you hard code tk scaling to 1 users on Windows will see font problems from Tk's half-baked, hardly documented theming engine that would require _really_ ugly hacks all over Pd to fix.
Thanks again Jonathan, great description! So I'll stick to scaling myself unless I want to print a .ps version of the patch.
best, Peter