Well, I did check the examples and all, but couldn't quite get its potential, or what "variable speed" stands for deep in practice and everything, sorry.

Seems ineteresting though, and that I can make some good use of it.

cheers
alex


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Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 11:20:49 +0100
From: Julian Brooks <jbeezez@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PD] ipoke~_v.3_test1 for Pd
To: Pierre Massat <pimassat@gmail.com>
Cc: PD List <pd-list@iem.at>
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Hi Pierre,

Well I would say check the test patches first off and come back if you
require more info...

Katja's description on the forum is here:
http://puredata.hurleur.com/viewtopic.php?pid=32209#p32209

Cheers,

Julian
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Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 15:07:58 +0200
From: Pierre Massat <pimassat@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-extended on the Raspberry Pi
To: Tedb0t <lists@liminastudio.com>
Cc: pd-list <pd-list@iem.at>
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I'll try to install vanilla from command line tonight. That'll be a good
start if it works.

2012/8/8 Pierre Massat <pimassat@gmail.com>

> The one they recommend, Raspbian.
>
>
> 2012/8/8 Tedb0t <lists@liminastudio.com>
>
>> What OS/distro are you using?
>>
>> On Aug 8, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Pierre Massat wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I got my Raspberry Pi recently and I just attempted to install Pd with
>> your package.
>> Unfortunately it didn't work. I get an error message when trying to
>> unpackage it telling me that the package architecture doesn't match the
>> system.
>>
>> Pierre.
>>
>> 2012/6/14 Tedb0t <lists@liminastudio.com>
>>
>>> For convenience, I uploaded the package (.deb) here:
>>>
>>> http://download.puredata.info/pd-extended-rpi/releases/1.0/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120606.deb/view
>>>
>>> If anyone else has a Raspberry Pi, can you download this and try
>>> installing it?  Thanks!
>>>
>>> ?t3db0t
>>>
>>> On Jun 14, 2012, at 3:08 PM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
>>>
>>> That's great! thanks for sharing, and keep us updated.
>>> M
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> After much tribulation, I managed to build Pd-extended on the RPi:
>>>>
>>>> http://log.liminastudio.com/writing/tutorials/how-to-build-pd-extended-on-the-raspberry-pi
>>>>
>>>> I'm getting some noise, possibly due to the beta alsa driver, but I'm
>>>> looking into it...
>>>>
>>>> ?t3db0t
>>>>
>>>
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Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 16:47:28 +0200
From: Jean-Marie Adrien <jma@jeanmarie-adrien.net>
Subject: Re: [PD] R?p :  looping at the end of sample / SOLVED
To: Patrice Colet <colet.patrice@free.fr>
Cc: "pd-list@iem.at List" <pd-list@iem.at>
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Thanks Patrice !
I was trying though to stick two loops without any amplitude ramp, just by being precise with the indexes on a single tabread4~
With some help, I solved the problem with a single loop~ object, plus samplehold~ to trigger window change : simple indeed.
Could not manage synchronizing two phasors~ along many cycles with enough precision, due to 32bit computation of initial phase maybe.
JM

Le 2 ao?t 2012 ? 19:53, Patrice Colet a ?crit :

> Allright, it seems you are looking for a crossfade loop implementation,
> that is quite usefull for looping audio in realtime, without getting clicks at loop point...
>
> I might have something to start with, it's attached.
>
> This patch uses cyclone objects because it has been originaly developped by a student using maxmsp native objects.
>
> [trapezoid~] and [pong~] for crossfading with one phasor~ signal, and [wave~] for reading the wavefile.
>
> I'm not sure about how to set the fading time, originaly expr was designed like this:
>
> [expr 1./pow(2. \,$f1)]
>
>
> The minimum table lenght is equal to loopsize + fadetime/2. [trapezoid~] makes the amplitude ramps, and [pong~] decays the ramps for reading both loopstart, and after loopend.
>
>
> I'm still looking for pd-vanilla native implementation of this patch...
>
>
> Colet Patrice
>
> ----- Mail original -----
>> De: "Jean-Marie Adrien" <jma@jeanmarie-adrien.net>
>> ?: "pd-list@iem.at List" <pd-list@iem.at>
>> Envoy?: Jeudi 2 Ao?t 2012 10:32:09
>> Objet: [PD] R?p :  looping at the end of sample
>>
>> Hi
>> sorry, the correct word is probably sustain part, the
>> post-attack-stable part of sound that you may be able to loop
>> easily, for instance the quasi-steady state of a piano tone after
>> the attack during the quasi-flat decay.
>> Something found in archives presents very clearly the problem, and a
>> possible implementation :
>>
>>
>> Let's suppose this is the sample:
>> |-----SS-----LB-----LE------|
>> where:
>> SS= sample start (where we want the sample to start playing the first
>> time)
>> LB= loop begin
>> LE= loop end
>>
>> With appropriate calculations, the two phasors can be adjusted so
>> that:
>> 1) Phasor A reproduces the sample the first time from SS to LE in its
>> first
>> cycle. In subsequent cycles it would do the same but it will be muted
>> so we
>> don't mind.
>> 2) Phasor B reproduces the loop region; its initial phase is
>> calculated in
>> such a way that at the beginning, when it is muted, it will be
>> producing
>> garbage, but when phasor A will reach point LB for the first time,
>> phasor B
>> will also be on LB, so that, during ONE cycle of phasor B, the two
>> phasors
>> will be reproducing *exactly* the same portion LB-LE synchronously.
>>
>> So, at any moment of that cycle, we can (and we must) safely switch
>> from the
>> output of phasor A to that of phasor B; we don't need to do a
>> crossfade
>> because the two outputs are perfectly identical.
>>
>> So, for detecting when to switch, we can use a [threshold~] on LB on
>> the
>> output of phasor A, even if threshold is block quantized. No matter
>> if the
>> actual switching occurs with a delay of almost one block, it will
>> still be
>> safe to switch.
>>
>> ... which seems brilliant ! (sorry i do not remember this
>> contribution's author)
>> Has this solution been implemented ?
>> Is there an abstraction in a library addressing the same basic need ?
>>
>> JM
>>
>> Le 1 ao?t 2012 ? 18:54, Patrice Colet a ?crit :
>>
>>> hello,
>>>
>>> what is 'resonance part'?
>>>
>>> in principle you compute the loop size in ms and send the result to
>>> [phasor~] or [vline~] for driving [tabread4~]
>>>
>>> Colet Patrice
>>>
>>> ----- Mail original -----
>>>> De: "Jean-Marie Adrien" <jma@jeanmarie-adrien.net>
>>>> ?: "pd-list@iem.at List" <pd-list@iem.at>
>>>> Envoy?: Mercredi 1 Ao?t 2012 10:10:31
>>>> Objet: [PD] looping at the end of sample
>>>>
>>>> Hi list
>>>> have looked at the archives threads concerning  managing the
>>>> tabread4~'s index  for reading an audio sample from the beginning
>>>> and then loop on a chunk at the end (in the resonance part).
>>>> Many things during the last years, but nothing very clear to me...
>>>> Any patch around for playing sample from start and loop at the end
>>>> ?
>>>> Jm
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Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 10:48:39 -0400
From: Tedb0t <lists@liminastudio.com>
Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-extended on the Raspberry Pi
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> The one they recommend, Raspbian.


Ah ok, the tutorial I wrote used the Debian Squeeze distro, not sure how different it is from Raspbian.

If you want to try vanilla you can probably use these instructions:
http://log.liminastudio.com/programming/running-puredata-on-the-raspberry-pi

Though again, Raspbian has different problems from what I've heard.

?t3db0t

On Aug 9, 2012, at 9:07 AM, Pierre Massat wrote:

> I'll try to install vanilla from command line tonight. That'll be a good start if it works.
>
> 2012/8/8 Pierre Massat <pimassat@gmail.com>
> The one they recommend, Raspbian.
>
>
> 2012/8/8 Tedb0t <lists@liminastudio.com>
> What OS/distro are you using?
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Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 17:06:40 +0200
From: Pierre Massat <pimassat@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-extended on the Raspberry Pi
To: Tedb0t <lists@liminastudio.com>
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I'll give some feedback.

2012/8/9 Tedb0t <lists@liminastudio.com>

> The one they recommend, Raspbian.
>>
>
> Ah ok, the tutorial I wrote used the Debian Squeeze distro, not sure how
> different it is from Raspbian.
>
> If you want to try vanilla you can probably use these instructions:
>
> http://log.liminastudio.com/programming/running-puredata-on-the-raspberry-pi
>
> Though again, Raspbian has different problems from what I've heard.
>
> ?t3db0t
>
> On Aug 9, 2012, at 9:07 AM, Pierre Massat wrote:
>
> I'll try to install vanilla from command line tonight. That'll be a good
> start if it works.
>
> 2012/8/8 Pierre Massat <pimassat@gmail.com>
>
>> The one they recommend, Raspbian.
>>
>>
>> 2012/8/8 Tedb0t <lists@liminastudio.com>
>>
>>> What OS/distro are you using?
>>>
>>
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