I had a friend who had some trouble loading a couple of objects (beat and borax from maxlib).  We thought maybe the lib wasn't being loaded, but it was.  In the end, it seems the object will create but only with a certain number of args.  After it's created once, creating the same object without any args works fine.

I assume this behavior is due to some sort of initialization that needs to be done within maxlib ... but I thinks it's quite confusing.

Is there any sort of spec libs need to be written to?  If so, I think it should be mandatory that objects should always be able to be created with empty arguments.

Also, are there any other objects that do this or just some in maxlib?