Yes, it loads super-slow.  Or should I say sub-slow.  Is it because of the fancy gui look? (compared to the last extended release)

On 6/6/08, Luke Iannini <lukexipd@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 5:29 AM, Joćo Pais <jmmmpais@googlemail.com> wrote:
> I notice that pd is much slower now to open up patches with gops, using
> cpu at 100% sometimes for 1/2 a minute. is that normal?
> after loaded, the patches run as normal. this happens since the
> colorscheme option in hcs/sys-gui was introduced (I updated after that)
> I think it's related with the number of gops in the patch. I have a kind
> of small 4-voice seq utility with several gops on top of each other, and
> on xp it takes almost a minute (takes less in ubuntu)
>
Ha, a minute is nothing : ).  I just decided to time the opening of my
performance/composition suite (made up of 16 drum modules and a
sequencer) and it took...

/fourteen minutes/ and 22 seconds.

Is anyone versed enough in Pd's loading sequence to explain how it can
run the patch (mostly) flawlessly but take a quarter of an hour to
open it? (on a 2.8g mac pro)

I'll try it with vanilla sometime when I get the energy to collect the
many externals I use.

Cheers
Luke

> XP, 0.40.3-extended-20080603 [with custom colorscheme, but that probably
> has nothing to do with it]
>
>
>> For this release, there has been a lot of work in making the GUI and
>> user experience much more fluid and easy. There is a new visual look
>> that was designed to make patches more readable. Additionally, lots
>> of things have been tweaked to make Pd behave more like a normal app.
>> There has already been a lot of testing on these builds, so it is
>> getting quite close to a final version. (Debian/PowerPC is missing
>> now but will come later)
>>
>> http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html
>>
>> Here is a partial changelog:
>>
>> - next visual appearance designed for readability (it can run slower
>> on machines < 1 GHz)
>>
>> - default locations for user-installed externals, helpfiles, etc.
>>   GNU/Linux:  /usr/share/pd and ~/pd
>>   Mac OS X: /Library/Pd and ~/Library/Pd
>>   Windows: %ProgramFiles%/Common Files/Pd and %UserProfile%/
>> Application Data/Pd
>>
>> - lots of standard key bindings added:
>>       Enter/Return for OK
>>       Escape for Cancel
>>       Ctrl/Cmd-W closes all windows
>>       on Mac OS X, Cmd-` cycles thru open windows
>>       on Mac OS X, Cmd-m minimizes windows
>>       Ctrl/Cmd-R raises/lowers Pd window
>>       Ctrl/Cmd-Shift-R shrinks/grows Pd window
>>       Ctrl/Cmd-Shift-L clears Pd window's text console
>>       Ctrl/Cmd-B opens the Help Browser
>>
>> - you can now use "~" in all paths to mean home folder, and on
>> Windows you can use environment variables, lie %UserProfile% in paths
>>
>> - cut/copy/paste now work directly into text boxes on all platforms
>>
>> - [declare] and [import] now sorted out for loading, much work needs
>> to be done before there namespace support is complete
>>
>> - "File -> Save As" defaults to the Home folder (~/)
>>
>> - fixed Cut/Copy/Paste for the Pd window's console
>>
>> - included pgp_opengl aka 3dp on GNU/Linux and Mac OS X
>>
>> KNOWN BUGS
>>
>> - check http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker before reporting bugs
>>
>> - Escape, Enter, and Ctrl/Cmd-W don't close the Path and Startup
>> preferences
>>
>> - pdp_opengl is alpha and will definitely crash Pd
>>
>> - loading pdp_opengl will crash Pd if X11 is not open before trying
>> to load it
>>
>>
>> .hc
>>
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