Hello,
Random self-organising PdCon architecture idea:
- Pick a location that matches the following criteria:
- Not too expensive to fly/get to for majority of people.
- Somewhere where bulk accommodation is cheap (e.g. camp site).
- Located close to amenities so people can organise their own food etc.
Pick a date.
Crowd-fund from this community the cost of hiring a large-ish camp
style venue in that location for a few days or a week. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BarCamp
- Run "bar camp" style self-organizing PdCon where participants
nominate their own talks for the various time slots of the conference on a wiki such as a page on the pure-data.info site.
With regards to (1) there must be suitable places in the USA that meet these criteria (although big cities like NY seem to be out) but it would also be fun to find a large venue somewhere like Bali or Manila or a small town in India (Hyderabad seems to have particularly cheap flights for some reason), Chile, rural Italy etc. The Southeast Asia region looks particularly attractive from a flight-cost point of view and amenities would generally be very cheap. Obviously it would need to be reasonably well connected so people can actually get there without too much expense/hassle. Where are the hidden gems that match this criteria?
Self-organising conference by a group of Pure Data nerds in a place none of us has been before - what could possibly go wrong? ;)
Cheers,
Chris.
On 27/09/14 19:23, Joseph Deken wrote:
I would like to feel that NB is always a *resource* and not a *constraint.*
I'd be happy to help, especially if NB efforts would bring much more *community contact* into the Pdcon setting. ("Bring the person on the street into the university" as I believe Jaime said about his new Waverly Labs).
I have direct evidence of Kansas including a large piece of flint and some roadside wildflowers growing in a coffee mug in my car from the Flint Hills. In the Flint Hills you will also find the farm (along I-70 in fact) where Connie grew up! Evidence indeed.
On Fri, 26 Sep 2014, Miller Puckette wrote:
One potential organizer is thinking about throwing a Pd convention in Kansas - I have no idea if it's a real possibility.
I think UCSD would be a bad place for it since the cost of visiting here is so high - and UCSD always wants to rechanrge everything, so we'd end up being out tens of thousands of dollars. OTOH, a lightweight organization in a cheap part of the coutry could throw a spectacular one. And if there is enough synergy, New Blankets could join as a collaborator.
That said I've never been to Kansas - I assume there actually is one but have only seen it in books.
cheers Miller
On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 06:52:17AM -0500, Joseph Deken wrote:
I can see "plus and minus" aspects. One of the charms of PdWeekend has been that it's just a small gathering of "Miller Puckette and friends." As it is, I've been able to make all the arrangements single-handedly (allowing always various hiccups). So it's very lightweight and I think that Miller's always willing to put it on his crowded calendar because of that.
PdCon would definitely allow more people to participate. But I think the administration would be beyond my abilities/desires. If e.g. Peter Otto or someone wanted to put a PdCon together as a UCSD effort or some such, of course I'd be glad to help with it.
Last year and this year we had some (unfulfilled) ideas of useful video recordings (This year, Sofy had planned to do Ustream but it didn't happen). So on a related matter I'd say that even if PdWeekend stays small for the advantages of that, we should *try harder* next year to produce effective video, networked live sessions, or other means of widening the participation and the downstream benefits of our little meeting.
On Thu, 25 Sep 2014, Jaime E Oliver wrote:
btw
Have you ever considered a PdCon in San Diego?
I am thinking it is like a Pd Weekend except a bit larger…
best,
J
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From: "me.grimm" megrimm@gmail.com Subject: [PD] PDCon (was Updated pd-extended) Date: September 25, 2014 9:40:47 PM EDT To: Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com Cc: Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com, "pd-list@lists.iem.at" pd-list@lists.iem.at
> I was waiting for the american PdCon and it never happened
hans and dan had talked about this. maybe it could still happen? ed had talked about london once i remember in '09?
> guess I'll have to make another south american one
brazil? or somewhere else in s. america? do it! your a great organizer.... :)
m
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 11:29 AM, Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com wrote: love those two ideas
I could also add the idea of having some research group working on it. At least here in Brazil I know a couple of people who'd like to back it up.
so yeah, I was waiting for the american PdCon and it never happened :( guess I'll have to make another south american one
cheers
2014-09-21 18:19 GMT-03:00 me.grimm megrimm@gmail.com:
> it involves time
... or money.
maybe we revisit the kickstarter (or something else) idea brought forth by jonathon a few years ago and just pay someone to do it. to me it seems like 1) none of us really have any money (im just assuming here we are all poor artists) and more importantly 2) none of us really have any time and those that do might not have the skills.
OR maybe we have another PDCon (remember that?) to get amped up and pump something out....
m
On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Dan Wilcox danomatika@gmail.com wrote: I talked to Hans about this a bit. In essence, it involves bringing in the new pd vanilla source and making sure the Pd-extended additions/modifications aren't lost. With the updates/cleanups to the tcl/tk sources a few years ago (great work Hans et al!), it should be alot easier than the previous extended releases. But still, *easy* or not, it involves time.
On Sep 21, 2014, at 6:00 AM, pd-list-request@lists.iem.at wrote:
From: Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Updated pd-extended Date: September 20, 2014 at 5:02:59 PM EDT To: Billy Stiltner billy.stiltner@gmail.com Cc: "pd-list@lists.iem.at" pd-list@lists.iem.at
I wish I knew something about coding to help out with its development :P I do care a lot about it though and wish I could help in some other way.
I do see a few problems with extended, but they're basically related to some of the externals and libraries that sometimes do not work as they should, have bad and messy help files and are sometimes redundanct. If welcome, I could help sharing my thoughts and two cents about that, but I realize those are not actual bug fixes regarding the code, so it's not a priority on its to do list and issues for being updated to another release.
Anyway, while were at it, what kind of work exactly do you mean someone would have to do? I suppose there is a great list of bug fixes just to keep it basically what it is. Given the context, I'm not assuming any big to do list for some new features agenda. But besidesthe bug fixes, how hard is it for someone to just update to the latest vanilla core?
Well, since Pd is an open source project that relies on community effort, and this is the list of its main developers and users, I guess this is the place to talk about a collaboration and see if we can get Pd-extended's development to continue.
I'd to help in any way I can.
Cheers
Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.com robotcowboy.com
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