Yes, Rolf!

A minimal patch works fine.

My complex patch worked also fine for 5-10 years and stopped working now when I tried to add a .jpg logo with gem during starting up.

Actually, now - without gem - sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.

I'm searching at the moment what makes the difference whether number boxes work or not.

(For example I delayed sample/audiofile loading which does not seem to change anything. [soundfiler] tends to block everything during loading . . .

Maybe I'll eliminate loading audio files altogether now.)

I have eliminated all window hiding, iconifying or moving.

Sometimes it works now and sometimes it doesn't when restarting the patch without any changes - just loading a few times.

It's total random whether the number boxes, etc. want to work or not as of now . . .

If my main patch is invisible during starting up it definitely does not work.

I had this issue before and kept it visible for this reason.

Ingo

From: Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-bounces@lists.iem.at] On Behalf Of rolfm@dds.nl
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2021 12:33 PM
To: Pd list
Subject: Re: [PD] Pd number boxes, slider boxes, etc. don't update if my main patch is not visible during starting up (Debian) Tcl/Tk 8.6 (Ingo)

on Windows 10

a minimal patch with a loadbang of vis 0 to the main (and only) canvas,

a numberbox updating with a metro,

a vis 1 after some time

shows the number box changing.

does something like this also not work in your setup?

rolf