I offers a library for Pd and not only on Pd-extented. It would have been annoying to put the iem's prepend in the distribution (I don't think that Thomas Musil would have be happy) and it would have strange to ask the user to download one external here and another here. I've made c.prepend and c.loadmess because I wanted to offer something with clean and simple and note that canvasarg don't have the same behavior,  canvasinfo isn't my pd-extented distribution, listpak doesn't work.  I know that most of the users use these obects and I don't want to replace them that why I put ".c" before everything. So I can't figure out what is your problem, why do you say "fancy" objects, for the "dupes" ? If I said something wrong, I'm sorry. Let's try to be cool please.


2014/1/3 IOhannes m zmölnig <zmoelnig@iem.at>
On 2014-01-03 09:44, Pierre Guillot wrote:
> I'm sorry, I didn't want to hurt anybody with this library. I never thought
> that the name was so important and I'll change it as soon as possible if
> it's your principal wish.

i don't think you've "hurt" anybody; and so far the only one who has
been complaining was me :-)

i don't think there's a real problem with your jokes about flavours
("coffee", "cocoa", whatever), though there might be better - and more
specific - names.
as jonathan has pointed out, i myself am the author of a dumpster
library with a general name: but this library is about 15 years old. (i
think) all other libraries i've written since then are targetted at a
specific problem (e.g. "networking") and have a specific name (e.g.
"iemnet").


as for dupes in coffee:
+ [c.loadmess]
 - iemlib's [init]
 - (iirc, there used to be a kind-of implementation in vanilla as well)
+ [c.pak]
 - pdmtl's [list.pak]
+ [c.patcherargs]
 - iemgut's [canvasargs]
 - jonathan's query system
 - flext
+ [c.patcherinfos]
 - iemgut's [canvasname], [canvasinfo]
 - jonathan's query system
+ [c.prepend]
 - vanilla's [list prepend]+[list strip]
 - iemlib's [prepend]
 - cyclone's [Prepend]


gfdar
IOhannes


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