hi, learning to build pd-patches and learning about signal-processing - speaking for musicians - goes hand in hand... i think a tutorial tells much about dsp-tchniques and vice versa (to learn about signal processing, pd is a good way to explain and draw processes)
but on the other hand, i find it a good idea to offer a pack of patches, which can be used without understanding any programming, so that musicians can play them in performances.
marius.
----- Original Message ----- From: "derek holzer" derek@x-i.net To: "chris clepper" cclepper@artic.edu Cc: PD-list@iem.kug.ac.at Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2003 3:43 PM Subject: [PD] teaching PD to newbies [WAS: Re: [GEM] GEM users request ]
chris,
after this big workshop in Amsterdam a few weeks back, i noticed that one of the things that is still really under development in the PD/GEM world is a way of teaching it coherently to non-programmers. starting with the message patches in the documentation and telling everybody about triggers, bangs, floats and dollar signs works if they can think in terms of abstract symbols already, but doesn't work at all if they are coming from the other side of it... i.e. they want to know about signal processing, making big noises and pretty pictures. an approach which goes backwards from said pretty pictures and big noises could teach them the very powerful message-handling side of PD "retroactively" so-to-speak. sneak in the data-stuff without them even realizing it, instead of slamming them up against all these abstract numbers and symbols first thing.
so your application-based tutorial is a great idea! IOhannes zmoelnig is also working on such a tutorial. i saw the beginnings of this at our workshop, and it looked good. perhaps you should join forces?
please keep me up to date on this, as i am sure i will find it very useful in my own educational excursions.
cheers, d.
chris clepper wrote:
Hi all
Over the past two weeks I have talked with a few people about GEM and most people found that the GEM distro lacked any patches that really showed off GEM's capabilities. So rather than write up some lame demo patches made by the developers, I thought maybe some of the GEM users could provide a patch or two that either does something very cool or just demonstrates some of the possibilities of GEM. This patch could be a live performance video mixer or something made for an installation that uses live video input, anything is really welcome. If you have something you would like to share with the world, please post a URL where the patch can be downloaded, and be sure to include comments, abstractions, and a proper credit for yourself!
also, i am also starting on a tutorial for GEM and if you want to help out with that effort let me know.
thanks
cgc
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