obviously [noise~] does a decent job with white noise, but i'm interested what sorts of other processes there are to generate noise, particularly noise more reminiscent of analogue machines.  

or even really weird digital lo-fi approaches or anything like that.

basically, [noise~] alone is not cutting it for what i want. 

my current go-to approach is:

[noise~]
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[* 10000]
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[phasor~]
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[expr~ $v1 * 2 - 1]


but for sure there must be heaps more interesting methods to get good (or super evil) sounding noise.