Pd-list January 2024

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Re: [PD] receive UDP message from 224.0.0.1
by Dan Wilcox 14 Jan '24

14 Jan '24

Ok, this would be a bug then. It *should* work but perhaps we need an additional flag when setting up the socket on Windows. When we did the networking handling refactoring, I'm pretty sure we tested this on Windows. What do you think Christof? Do the multicast examples in the netsend and netrecieve help files work? For example, you start the multicast receiver in one and send to it form the other help? > On Jan 11, 2024, at 11:15 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2024 22:15:00 +0100 > From: Jo?o Pais <jmmmpais(a)gmail.com <mailto:jmmmpais@gmail.com>> > Cc: Pd-List <pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>> > Subject: Re: [PD] receive UDP message from 224.0.0.1 > Message-ID: <1d26753e-b344-4722-8b0d-3b86f8014d7d(a)gmail.com <mailto:1d26753e-b344-4722-8b0d-3b86f8014d7d@gmail.com>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" > > >> Are you opening with the following message? >> >> [ listen 57120?224.0.0.1 < >> | >> [ netreceive -u -b] >> >> The address is within the multicast range, so it needs to be given to >> netreceive in addition to the port. > It doesn't work in windows, but it does in ubuntu - although windows is > my main work system. (latest Pd version on both) -------- Dan Wilcox danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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receive UDP message from 224.0.0.1
by João Pais 12 Jan '24

12 Jan '24

Hi everyone, I'm trying to receive some UDP data from a mobile device into Pd. The data arrives in the computer (windows or ubuntu), here is a description from wireshark: Frame 173: 90 bytes on wire (720 bits), 90 bytes captured (720 bits) on interface \Device\NPF_{2ADD2685-ACB9-4C51-B708-F1F62FAE86C7}, id 0 Ethernet II, Src: XiaomiCommun_1d:0e:fd (4c:e0:db:1d:0e:fd), Dst: IPv4mcast_01 (01:00:5e:00:00:01) Internet Protocol Version 4, Src: 192.168.178.34, Dst: 224.0.0.1 User Datagram Protocol, Src Port: 43641, Dst Port: 57120 Data (48 bytes) But with [netreceive -u -b 57120] (or any other options to netreceive) no data comes into Pd. Does anyone have any suggestion on how to receive the data? When is sent to 224.0.0.1, the data gets into the computer but not into Pd. But if other udp data is sent to the broadcast ip (192.168.178.255) from the same device, it does get also into Pd. Frame 31: 66 bytes on wire (528 bits), 66 bytes captured (528 bits) on interface \Device\NPF_{2ADD2685-ACB9-4C51-B708-F1F62FAE86C7}, id 0 Ethernet II, Src: XiaomiCommun_1d:0e:fd (4c:e0:db:1d:0e:fd), Dst: Broadcast (ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff) Internet Protocol Version 4, Src: 192.168.178.34, Dst: 192.168.178.255 User Datagram Protocol, Src Port: 42797, Dst Port: 57120 Data (24 bytes) Best, Joao

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Re: [PD] receive UDP message from 224.0.0.1
by Dan Wilcox 11 Jan '24

11 Jan '24

Are you opening with the following message? [ listen 57120 224.0.0.1 < | [ netreceive -u -b] The address is within the multicast range, so it needs to be given to netreceive in addition to the port. > On Jan 11, 2024, at 10:34 AM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > But with [netreceive -u -b 57120] (or any other options to netreceive) > no data comes into Pd. Does anyone have any suggestion on how to receive > the data? -------- Dan Wilcox danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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open multiple files limits?
by Remmy Canedo 11 Jan '24

11 Jan '24

Hello, I'm trying to open 189 files with [bang( | [openpanel 2] file names are 1.wav, 2.wav, 3.wav... 189.wav with different sizes from 48,2 to 343,5 KiB when I use short paths, like home/user/Music/test_samples I'm able to open 112 files with long paths, for ex: home/user/FOLDER_1/Folder_002/Folder_3/folder_4/folder_5/test_samples I can only open 53 files max. more than that, it gives me an error in console: av: no such object If anyone can explain why this happens and how to overcome these limits I would be very grateful. thanks in advance! remmy Pd version 0.52.1 System: Kernel: 5.15.0-91-lowlatency x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 11.4.0 Desktop: Xfce 4.18.1 tk: Gtk 3.24.33 wm: xfwm dm: LightDM Distro: Linux Mint 21.2 Victoria base: Ubuntu 22.04 jammy

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protect [drawnumber] from mouse interaction
by Roman Haefeli 11 Jan '24

11 Jan '24

Hi all Is there a conceptual reason that [drawpolygon]/[filledpolygen] support -x, xr, xe and [drawnumber] does not? I sometimes use [drawnumber] as labels and would like to make the numbers non-editable. Roman

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updates through deken and the [import] object
by Peter P. 06 Jan '24

06 Jan '24

Hi list, I am wondering if there are any considerations amongst developers to allow the upgrade of externals/libraries through deken eventually? I have just discovered the [import] library, described on [1] as "Aiming to provide a simplified Python-style import for Pure Data, this import object loads libraries as part of a patch. It will load anything that Pd considers a library, including libraries that are defined by Pd loaders like 'libdir'. " Do I understand it correctly that it will automatically load externals that are used in a patch without having to explicitly use [declare -lib ...]? Oh, and [import] seems to be unavailable through deken, which makes me believe that it is possibly an older project? Thanks for all hints! P [1] https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/puredata-import

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Fwd: shell external for raspberry pi aarch64
by mick mengucci 06 Jan '24

06 Jan '24

Thanks all, but I use Pd version 0.52.2 and when I put *command* in the find externals / Dekken windows I get no result, no error nothing. I installed MOTEX and [system] does not respond to a message | echo "whatever" $MYUNSERNAME ( I must be missing something. I can migrate the project to Linux but as I work with schools and they are dominated by windowz it would be really cool to solve this and be able to trigger other programs from inside Pd, using the cmd proimpt window. Or are there other ways to do that? IOhannes m zmölnig <zmoelnig(a)iem.at> escreveu no dia terça, 31/10/2023 à(s) 14:54: > On 10/31/23 09:07, Chris McCormick wrote: > > > > It appears I accidentally upgraded deken itself by installing > > `deken-externals` > > assuming you meant to say "deken-plugin", then yes: if the server > detects that you are running a version of the deken-plugin that cannot > handle "new-style" .dek packages then it will *always* inject a > suggestion for an update of the deken-plugin. > > afaik, the first Pd-version that included a deken plugin that can handle > new-style .dek packages was Pd-0.48-2, which was released some 5 years > ago... > > even Raspbian/buster shipped with Pd-0.49-0 :-) > > > and now when I search for `command` it shows up. Cool > > and "command" uses a new-style .dek package, so that's why it shows up > after you've updated the deken-plugin. > > gmfdsar > IOhannes > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list(a)lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > -- labio.github.io insta / menguccimick pure mixture vibration since 1995 -- labio.github.io insta / menguccimick pure mixture vibration since 1995

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Wrong macOS app for 0.54-1
by Christof Ressi 06 Jan '24

06 Jan '24

Hi, I just noticed that the section "Pd compiled for older system" in http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.html actually contains macOS versions of Pd 0.53-1 instead of Pd 0.54-1. I just discovered this because I download the .tar.gz files in my CI pipeline; I tried to increase the Pd version to 0.54-1 and got an error... Christof

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] New Externals for the SoundScape Renderer + ASDF external
by Dan Wilcox 03 Jan '24

03 Jan '24

> Which basically means, that the `libfftw3f.3.dylib` shipped with the SSR externals was built for a newer version of macOS. > > https://stackoverflow.com/questions/77380844 > > many workflows (including mine) use brew to provide build- and runtime-dependencies. > Unfortunately, brew (like Apple) only support the last three macOS releases. > It's not so trivial to get bottled binaries of your dependencies with am extended life cycle (so you do not have to rebuild the world in your ci/cd system). Yeah, I have avoided trying to distribute libraries from Homebrew for this reason. Luckily the libs I routinely use don;t have a tone of dependencies so it's easier to just build them manually, as needed. > Personally (in my projects, so unrelated to SSR), I'm more and more inclined to just tell people that if they want to stick with their shiny apples, they need to play by apple's rules. > Luckily, I'm not entirely convinced yet (but it's increasingly hard to reason why unpaid freelance volunteers should invest time and money to keep things from breaking, where those who get the big money are not concerned at all) To be fair, OS X / macOS used to ship with many libraries + Python, Tcl/Tk, Perl, etc etc but everyone complained that they were always out of date, so Apple has been removing the built-in stuff except for required environments. Can't please everyone and I *suspect* projects like Homebrew have contributions from many of the 3rd-party companies benefitting from it's existence. That being said, I was recently bitten by current home-brew now dropping support for macOS version before 12.0. That is *totally* on the brew project and not on Apple. To be fair to them, it's also hard to test and deploy newer libs on many various older systems, so they decided to free stuff. For my recent project I had to then update laptops to new version macOS versions just to be abel to run my simple Python3 + Tkinter app, oh well. -------- Dan Wilcox danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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Way to dynamically route audio in dynamic patching abstractions
by Martin Dupras 03 Jan '24

03 Jan '24

I'm trying to make dynamically created abstractions get inserted into signal chains without using patch cords. In other words, something like the attached diagramme. [image: Screenshot 2023-12-14 at 17.22.32.png] The issue is that [receive~] can be set with a message but [send~] cannot. Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks! - martin

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