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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.52-2 released
by Dan Wilcox 30 Mar '22

30 Mar '22

I don't understand your reasoning why "separate binaries make more sense." I don't recall the previous Pd & Pd-extended ppc / i386 / x86_64 mac builds being a major issue. Same for externals which were also built "fat." Most mac apps are built as "universal" to cover the various transitions: ppc -> intel, 32 -> 64 bit, now intel -> arm. If you are referring to external support, yes most externals need to be recompiled as fat x86_64 / arm, then they are good to go for the foreseeable future. > On Mar 30, 2022, at 7:06 AM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2022 02:06:39 -0300 > From: Alexandre Torres Porres <porres(a)gmail.com <mailto:porres@gmail.com>> > To: Christof Ressi <info(a)christofressi.com <mailto:info@christofressi.com>> > Cc: pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at> > Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.52-2 released > Message-ID: > <CAEAsFmghrVft77FiXSKAko=-puxa=Zd=pVL-BNQbujWvZh=kdQ(a)mail.gmail.com <mailto:CAEAsFmghrVft77FiXSKAko=-puxa=Zd=pVL-BNQbujWvZh=kdQ@mail.gmail.com>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Em ter., 29 de mar. de 2022 ?s 11:12, Christof Ressi <info(a)christofressi.com <mailto:info@christofressi.com>> > escreveu: > >> From my understanding, yes. For that reason, I guess it's not a good idea >> to provide universal binaries at this point and we should rather ship >> seperate binaries. Once most externals are available as universal binaries, >> we might ship Pd as a universal binary as well. >> > Of course, you can always force apps to run under Rosetta, but I don't >> think that's a good user experience. >> > > I agree, separate binaries makes more sense these days. -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.52-2 released
by Dan Wilcox 30 Mar '22

30 Mar '22

Howdy Miller, the macOS 10.10+ build is working fine and supports both x86_64 & arm64. I think you can remove the link to my previous 0.52-1 arm64-only build on the download page. > On Mar 28, 2022, at 7:18 AM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 21:56:46 -0700 > From: Miller Puckette via Pd-announce <pd-announce(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-announce@lists.iem.at>> > To: pd-announce(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-announce@lists.iem.at> > Cc: Miller Puckette <msp(a)ucsd.edu <mailto:msp@ucsd.edu>> > Subject: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.52-2 released > Message-ID: <YkFADvjORTRhzRCr(a)ucsd.edu <mailto:YkFADvjORTRhzRCr@ucsd.edu>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > To Pd-announce: > > Pd version 0.52-2 is available from http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm <http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm> > or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data <https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data> . > > cheers > Miller -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.52-2 released
by Philip Stone 29 Mar '22

29 Mar '22

On an M1 Mac, Deken will only show Darwin-arm64 externals (that is, if you have the ‘Hide foreign architectures’ option checked, which I believe is the default). If that box is unchecked, you’ll see all architectures. If you have old Darwin-amd64-32 externals lying around (like I did) Pd will attempt to load them, but will throw an error complaining about the mismatched architecture. Phil Stone Davis, CA USA ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2022 11:02:11 -0300 From: Alexandre Torres Porres <porres(a)gmail.com> Em seg., 28 de mar. de 2022 ?s 07:17, Dan Wilcox <danomatika(a)gmail.com> escreveu: > Howdy Miller, > > the macOS 10.10+ build is working fine and supports both x86_64 & arm64. I > think you can remove the link to my previous 0.52-1 arm64-only build on the > download page. > Great to know that, so let me see if I get it straight. If you have an apple silicon, it'll run under the hood the arm code and then it will only find and load 'arm64' externals? Or can you load both externals types? How does it work? Oh, and Miller's site should say it is a universal binary ready for the new macs! cheers

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Get directory of current patch
by Philip Stone 29 Mar '22

29 Mar '22

I’m currently using [ggee/getdir] to determine the path of the current patch, and I was hoping that [file] would give me a vanilla alternative. It doesn’t seem to – am I missing something? Thanks, Phil Stone University of California, Davis

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how to write different types to [text]
by Roman Haefeli 29 Mar '22

29 Mar '22

Hi [text get] has a second outlet for the type of the message. There is a distinction between messages terminated by semicolon and messages terminated by comma. Is there also a way to add messages of different types? I haven't found any. [text set] and [text insert] usually add messages terminated by semicolon (type 0). OK, there is [text fromlist], but I'm interested in a more granular way to edit the text buffer and add messages of different types. Roman

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Re: [PD] meaning of [comport]s error numbers
by Dan Wilcox 28 Mar '22

28 Mar '22

That's a low-level C error code. I believe they are standardized via Posix, but if you search on Google, there are some lists online. If you are doing development, you can also look at errno.h provided by the system. I opened errno.h on my macOS 11.6 system with Xcode installed via the following on the commandline: open `xcrun --show-sdk-path`/usr/include/sys/errno.h it looks like your error is: #define EAGAIN 35 /* Resource temporarily unavailable */ If you don't close the connection in software correctly, sometimes a crash will level the serial port "busy" and/or maybe something else is using such as the Arduino GUI serial monitor... I would suggest opening an issue with the [comport] developers asking them to add the output of "strerror(errno))" to the errno print. > On Mar 28, 2022, at 1:35 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2022 13:21:58 +0200 > From: Jakob Laue <jakkesprinter(a)web.de <mailto:jakkesprinter@web.de>> > To: Pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at> > Subject: [PD] meaning of [comport]s error numbers > Message-ID: > <trinity-435fb98f-4492-4958-9052-91b2253c8395-1648466518717@3c-app-webde-bap22> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Dear list, > I am trying to communicate from Pd Vanilla 0.50.2 to Arduino Mega via USB on Mac. It is still work in progress and sometimes I get error messages from the [comport] object, e.g. 'Write failed for -1 bytes, error is 35'. > Does anyone know where I can find the meaning for the different error numbers that [comport] throws? > ? > ? > Thanks, Jakob -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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meaning of [comport]s error numbers
by Jakob Laue 28 Mar '22

28 Mar '22

Dear list, I am trying to communicate from Pd Vanilla 0.50.2 to Arduino Mega via USB on Mac. It is still work in progress and sometimes I get error messages from the [comport] object, e.g. 'Write failed for -1 bytes, error is 35'. Does anyone know where I can find the meaning for the different error numbers that [comport] throws? Thanks, Jakob

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[PD-announce] Pd 0.52-2 released
by Miller Puckette via Pd-announce 28 Mar '22

28 Mar '22

To Pd-announce: Pd version 0.52-2 is available from http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data . cheers Miller _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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array of arrays Data Structure
by Alexandre Torres Porres 27 Mar '22

27 Mar '22

hi, anyone has a simple example of an array composed of arrays for me? I'm working on revising the documentation of Data Structures thanks

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[PD-announce] pd 0.52-2 test version 1 released
by Miller Puckette via Pd-announce 27 Mar '22

27 Mar '22

To Pd-announce: Pd version 0.52-2test1 is available from http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data cheers Miller _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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