Pd-list March 2022

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Preset management for Pd Vanilla
by Alexandre Torres Porres 13 Nov '23

13 Nov '23

Never really needed fancy preset management other than storing messages in a basic vanilla way. But I've seen people mention how Pd lacks a nice preset system. Not that I know what a fancy one actually needs since I never felt the demand. So I'm here to ask what people use in Pd Vanilla, be it a pure vanilla solution or an external. And also to ask what people miss. This is what I came up with as a pure vanilla abstraction, it's based on [text] and [savestate]. Here's the thing: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1A0ISEJo5F1E578WHM1doo1n2CJAthonU/view?usp=… In short, the preset abstraction takes messages and stores them. You can have many of these on your patch and use them to recall presets for any parameters. It takes any kind of messages. I'm making use of built-in sends and receives in the number boxes to make the patch cleaner. Just think that you can have separate control of each parameter having its own preset or group all of them together globally, or a group here and another there, whatever... Once you save the patch, the presets you saved get stored in the patch. As for my current idea for my ELSE library, I'm using an object similar to grab to take messages from [receive] objects. It's a development over this original vanilla abstraction. My first draft is this, I hope that sharing the screenshot give you a nice idea. [image: Screen Shot 2021-01-21 at 04.47.42.png] You can check what's up in my repository for more details... https://github.com/porres/pd-else/blob/master/Classes/Abstractions/preset.pd cheers

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soundtouch~ for Pd Vanilla
by Alexandre Torres Porres 31 Oct '23

31 Oct '23

Hi folks, I'm on a vibe of uploading missing libraries and objects for Pd Vanilla on deken. On the list I have FFTease, Lyonpotpourri, CICM-Tools and more stuff that I'm looking into, just so you know... Now, I see there's an old soundtouch~ external here: http://www.katjaas.nl/pitchshift/soundtouch~.html - it's "version 0.9" by Katja Vetter. It was developed with SoundTouch version 1.6 and Pure Data version 0.42. I tested on Pd 0.51-4 32 bits on mac and it works fine. There are binaries for download on the link above, but not for 64 bits. I wonder if anyone wants to help me build these with pd-lib-builder and all. Now, the ceammc librarym (and Pd-ceammc distribution) has a soundtouch~ external too. It's the same name, but not the same external, this one is marked as "version 0.1". So we do already have "a" soundtouch~ for vanilla, but I wanted to also get katja's external up there. So I just uploaded the download from that page here https://github.com/porres/pd-soundtouch - It's just the download as it is and we need to change to hopefully use pd-lib-builder, which would make things easier. I did try that and it didn't work. So, anyone onboard with this? cheers

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MIDI specifications for Multidimensional Polyphonic Expression (MPE) in Pd
by Alexandre Torres Porres 26 Oct '23

26 Oct '23

some new objects for MPE Midi is on Max's new update, just googled it to see what it was http://expressiveness.org/2015/04/24/midi-specifications-for-multidimension… wonder if you guys know anything about this and if anyone would be into bringing this to Pd. cheers

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[PD-announce] [vstplugin~] 0.5.4 bug fix release!
by Christof Ressi 20 Sep '22

20 Sep '22

Hi, I am happy to announce a new bug fix release for [vstplugin~] - a Pd external for hosting VST2 and VST3 plugins on Windows, macOS and Linux. It is available on Deken (search for "vstplugin~"). Please upgrade! Here is the full change log: https://git.iem.at/pd/vstplugin/-/releases Please report any issues at https://git.iem.at/pd/vstplugin/-/issues Have fun! Christof _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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Some confusion about linux amd64-64 and linux amd64-32 in deken, and what are all the possible variations?
by José de Abreu 10 Jun '22

10 Jun '22

Hello list! I have some questions regarding the architectures available in deken I noticed that deken has many different architectures possible for the packages, as i checked by now (not an exhaustive search) there is at least 8 for linux, (amd64-32, amd64-64, i386-32, arm64-32, armv6-32, armv7-32, armv7-64, armv7l-32), at least 4 for mac (amd64-32, x86_64-32, i386-32, PowerPC-32) and at least 2 for windows (amd64-32, i386-32). There are more? And are they correct? Should i expect that all mac and windows may have the -64 variant too? I ask this because I want to create a table showing all the externals available and which downloads are possible from deken, together with descriptions for each external, so i want to know what are the possible architectures that I am missing... see the (unfinished) table here https://pdwiki.miraheze.org/wiki/List_of_Externals#List_of_Externals So for the first question of the e-mail, what is the difference between amd64-64 and amd64-32? I guess that the first name would be for the architecture of the system, and then the last 32 or 64 would be for single or double precision... but if I search for bandlimited in deken for example, i get that its package is amd64-64 for linux, and i can install it on normal pd, but pd double refuses it, as it is a 32bit-float object. Well, bandlimited was uploaded in 2016, way before the pd double came to vanilla (maybe 2019?), so it makes sense that it is 32bit-float... But there were other reasons for it (and other externals, some from extended) to be packaged as linux amd64-64 instead of amd64-32?

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why units per pixel: -1 by default on subpatches?
by Alexandre Torres Porres 04 Apr '22

04 Apr '22

Hi, I believe this must have been discussed before... it's surely known. I wonder why when you add a subpatch the 'scale' section has an inverted "-1" scale for the vertical axis. This is particularly bad for display data structures and needs to be corrected by hand. Should I open a request to change this default parameter? cheers

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Workshop 1 April: Pure Data & PDParty in Nürnberg
by Dan Wilcox 31 Mar '22

31 Mar '22

Howdy all, if you are a student in Nürnberg and want an intro to Pure Data & PdParty, I'm giving a set of workshops tomorrow at the Leonard Center: > https://leonardo-zentrum.de/2022/03/28/workshop-mit-dan-wilcox-pure-data-pd… <https://leonardo-zentrum.de/2022/03/28/workshop-mit-dan-wilcox-pure-data-pd…> -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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Fwd: Contract-coding help in PureData Vanilla
by Pierre Alexandre Tremblay 31 Mar '22

31 Mar '22

Hello all So... for FluCoMa I'm struggling to find the time to translate all the Max helpfiles to PureData Vanilla. I have made a few, there is therefore a stylesheet and content. It has to be in Vanilla for many reasons we can discuss later. I have a small budget, and a short time frame. If you are based in the UK or the EU, and have the time and interest, please contact me at p.a.tremblay(a)hud.ac.uk I would say that the level needed is quite high, and an interest in machine learning and understanding an extension framework to enable it in PD, Max and SC, is needed. Going around some of PD vanilla idiosyncracies will also be needed :) Don't worry, we had to go around Max and SC idiosyncrasies too. The framework is here, including some Max SC and PD examples, and some tutorials. learn.flucoma.org discourse.flucoma.org flucoma.org/download Feel free to forward to people you feel have the right profile. p

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consistency check failed: drawline
by José Rafael Subía Valdez 30 Mar '22

30 Mar '22

Hello List I just downloaded and installed the latest Pd 0.52-2. But if I open a project of mine and close it I get the message (messages come up when I cles the patch) "consistency check failed: drawline" the patch opened and closed with no problem in previous versions of Pd, I had no error warning like this. So my question is, what can be causing this? How can I narrow this down? where should I start looking whats going on? thanks -- José Rafael Subía Valdez www.jrsv.net *"...I am an Anarchist! Wherefore I will* *Not rule, and also ruled I will not be!"* - John Henry Mackay -

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.52-2 released
by Dan Wilcox 30 Mar '22

30 Mar '22

How many externals are there, really? For those that use pd-lib-builder, it's a simple recompile. I'd argue that more time has been spent writing emails on this issue than it would take for each person to take one external, make a fat build, and upload to deken. We went through this already with the transition from Pd-extended end-of-life to Pd vanilla + deken: there was much handwrining about the extended externals not being easy to install until someone (IOhannes) simply put the existing compiled externals on deken. We know what needs to be done, so let's do it. > On Mar 30, 2022, at 3:13 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2022 12:24:02 +0200 > From: Christof Ressi <info(a)christofressi.com <mailto:info@christofressi.com>> > To: Pd-List <pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>> > Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.52-2 released > Message-ID: <482236c3-8edb-7f21-6156-e18cc9035fd6(a)christofressi.com <mailto:482236c3-8edb-7f21-6156-e18cc9035fd6@christofressi.com>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > Now *I* am utterly confused. > >> now people seem to all agree that it was much better way back then. > I think everybody agrees that there should be an ARM64 binary for macOS. > The question is just whether it should be the default on M1 machines > when there are so few ARM64 externals for macOS available on Deken. (I > count 9: zexy, comport, xsample, pool, clk, absattr, vasp, zconf, > constantq~) > > Actually, this issue already came up two months ago and someone called > it a "lousy UX": > > https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2022-01/130772.html <https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2022-01/130772.html> > > So what has changed? > > --- > > As I said before, we might alternatively add a disclaimer to the > download page that people might want to force-run Pd under Rosetta if > they don't find all the externals they need. > > However, I'm not a Mac user and I don't have a ball in this game. I was > just parotting what I thought the consensus was back then... > > Christof -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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