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MIDI specifications for Multidimensional Polyphonic Expression (MPE) in Pd
by Alexandre Torres Porres 26 Oct '23

26 Oct '23

some new objects for MPE Midi is on Max's new update, just googled it to see what it was http://expressiveness.org/2015/04/24/midi-specifications-for-multidimension… wonder if you guys know anything about this and if anyone would be into bringing this to Pd. cheers

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Re: [PD] Japanese language problem
by Dan Wilcox 31 Jan '19

31 Jan '19

It's a bug. Pd should be able to handle unicode in this case. In the meantime, you can set the LANG environment variable when starting Pd to English as detailed in https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/blob/master/po/README.txt#L42 <https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/blob/master/po/README.txt#L42> > Hello, > > Pure Data throws the following error when I try to open up Media>Audio > Settings: > > (Tcl) UNHANDLED ERROR: extra characters after close-brace > while executing > "lappend audio_indevlist {}CN (Realtek High Definition} > global audio_outdevlist; set audio_outdevlist {} > lappend audio_outdevlist {Xs [J ..." > ("uplevel" body line 2) > invoked from within > "uplevel #0 $docmds" > > My OS is in Japanese and, according to this page ( > https://drugscore.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-194.html <https://drugscore.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-194.html>), I need to change the > language setting of my OS to English (presumably other European languages > would work, since I've used PD on a German-language system) to bypass this > system. > > Just wondering if there was another fix- it's not a big deal for me to > change the settings, but maybe for Japanese people interested in PD it > would be. -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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Re: [PD] Text insert and delete in PdDroid
by Chris McCormick 24 Jan '19

24 Jan '19

Hi Arnault, The [text] element does not work because the version of Pd that ships with PdDroidParty is currently out of date. I'm sort of working on a new build but not sure when I will get that working. Patches welcome! Cheers, Chris. On 10/07/18 00:08, Arnault Malgat wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to design a patch for PdDroidParty in wich I need to > dynamically modifie the content of a [text] object, but [text insert] > and [text delete] don't seems to work. > Is it even possible or should I try to find a way using lists (wich > would be a drag since I can't find how to make [list store] work either) ? > > This patch does not involve any audio treatment at all but is a 4/4 bar > rythm generator for my percussions students. > Each rythm is an image wich appear on a canvas (they were initially > drawed using [filledcurved] and [drawpolygon] but as only GUI objects > are shown by PdDroid, it's the easiest way around i've thinked of when I > decided to make it usable on tablets) > The canvas receives are listed in a [text define -k rythme_list] object > and randomly selected to be shown or not. > As the knowledge of rythm depends on the student's level, I need this > rythm list to be editable from inside the app (so I don't have to edit > it all along the year for each of my pupils). That's where [text insert] > and [text delete] comes at play. > It works fine on PdVanilla but does not on my android device. > > The patch with comment, if needed, is attached. > > Thanks > > Arnault > > > #N canvas 201 120 499 276 10;#X obj 1 207 text define -k rythme_list;#A > set mi \; di \; ka \; ta \;;#N canvas -8 -8 1366 726 gen 0;#X obj 200 16 > cnv 15 120 120 empty empty coord 20 12 0 14 -233017 -66577 > 0;#X obj 57 13 r generate;#X obj 57 44 t b b; > #N canvas -8 -8 1366 726 reset 0; > #X obj 44 14 inlet; > #X msg 44 81 \; \$1 pos 500 500; > #X obj 44 48 list split 1; > #X obj 9 49 t l; > #X connect 0 0 2 0; > #X connect 2 0 1 0; > #X connect 2 1 3 0; > #X connect 3 0 2 0; > #X restore 47 402 pd reset; > #N canvas -8 -8 1366 726 save_state 0; > #X obj 81 124 list prepend; > #X msg 81 82 \$1\$2; > #X obj 81 46 inlet; > #X obj 24 99 inlet; > #X text 81 25 state; > #X text 23 80 bang; > #X obj 57 294 outlet; > #X obj 81 163 t l; > #X obj 57 236 list; > #X obj 18 147 t b b b; > #X connect 0 0 7 0; > #X connect 1 0 0 0; > #X connect 2 0 1 0; > #X connect 3 0 9 0; > #X connect 7 0 0 1; > #X connect 7 0 8 1; > #X connect 8 0 6 0; > #X connect 9 0 8 1; > #X connect 9 1 0 1; > #X connect 9 2 8 0; > #X restore 47 368 pd save_state; > #N canvas -204 7 1366 719 instructions 0; > #N canvas 708 35 454 358 list_gen 0; > #X obj 63 115 text search rythme_list, f 11; > #X obj 63 90 symbol; > #X obj 63 156 sel -1; > #X obj 226 246 list; > #X obj 226 269 text insert rythme_list, f 11; > #X obj 29 268 text delete rythme_list, f 12; > #X obj 114 11 inlet; > #X obj 2 308 outlet; > #X obj 2 195 t b f; > #X obj 63 189 t b b; > #X obj 114 58 t l l; > #X obj 114 36 list; > #X text 147 122 text search works; > #X text 110 260 can't find a way to make this work, f 13; > #X text 299 263 can't find a way to make this work, f 14; > #X connect 0 0 2 0; > #X connect 1 0 0 0; > #X connect 2 0 9 0; > #X connect 2 1 8 0; > #X connect 3 0 4 0; > #X connect 6 0 11 0; > #X connect 8 0 7 0; > #X connect 8 1 5 0; > #X connect 9 0 7 0; > #X connect 9 1 3 0; > #X connect 10 0 1 0; > #X connect 10 1 3 1; > #X connect 11 0 10 0; > #X restore 433 115 pd list_gen; > #X obj 400 255 random; > #X obj 433 197 text size rythme_list; > #X obj 400 294 text get rythme_list; > #X obj 433 81 r rythme; > #X obj 442 167 loadbang; > #X msg 212 114 4; > #N canvas -8 -8 1600 818 uzi 0; > #X obj 27 142 until; > #X obj 26 173 f; > #X obj 72 174 + 1; > #X obj 137 255 sel; > #X obj 152 218 - 1; > #X msg 137 297 0; > #X obj 62 82 t f f; > #X obj 85 446 outlet; > #X obj 62 50 inlet; > #X obj 28 379 t f b; > #X obj 27 443 outlet; > #X connect 0 0 1 0; > #X connect 1 0 2 0; > #X connect 1 0 3 0; > #X connect 1 0 9 0; > #X connect 2 0 1 1; > #X connect 3 0 5 0; > #X connect 4 0 3 1; > #X connect 5 0 1 1; > #X connect 6 0 0 0; > #X connect 6 1 4 0; > #X connect 8 0 6 0; > #X connect 9 0 10 0; > #X connect 9 1 7 0; > #X restore 212 148 pd uzi; > #N canvas -8 -8 1366 726 offset 0; > #X obj 96 174 +; > #X obj 96 140 *; > #X obj 96 278 outlet; > #X obj 33 52 inlet; > #X obj 111 50 inlet; > #X obj 205 50 inlet; > #X text 36 31 uzi; > #X text 201 30 x offset; > #X text 97 29 canvas size x; > #X obj 282 49 inlet; > #X obj 107 230 pack f f; > #X text 277 30 y offset; > #X connect 0 0 10 0; > #X connect 1 0 0 0; > #X connect 3 0 1 0; > #X connect 4 0 1 1; > #X connect 5 0 0 1; > #X connect 9 0 10 1; > #X connect 10 0 2 0; > #X restore 211 275 pd offset; > #X obj 211 374 list prepend; > #X obj 212 185 t f f; > #X obj 211 349 list prepend; > #X obj 280 313 + 1; > #X msg 211 484 \; \$1\$2 pos \$3 \$4; > #X obj 324 497 outlet; > #X obj 212 80 inlet; > #X obj 277 80 inlet; > #X obj 317 80 inlet; > #X obj 357 80 inlet; > #X text 508 109 add/remove rythm from generation list, f 20; > #X text 564 197 text size works; > #X text 525 294 text get works; > #X connect 0 0 2 0; > #X connect 1 0 3 0; > #X connect 2 0 1 1; > #X connect 3 0 9 1; > #X connect 4 0 0 0; > #X connect 5 0 2 0; > #X connect 6 0 7 0; > #X connect 7 0 10 0; > #X connect 7 1 1 0; > #X connect 8 0 11 0; > #X connect 9 0 13 0; > #X connect 9 0 14 0; > #X connect 10 0 8 0; > #X connect 10 1 12 0; > #X connect 11 0 9 0; > #X connect 12 0 11 1; > #X connect 15 0 6 0; > #X connect 16 0 8 1; > #X connect 17 0 8 2; > #X connect 18 0 8 3; > #X restore 122 301 pd instructions; > #X msg 285 48 110; > #X msg 286 80 40; > #X msg 285 106 100; > #X text 202 109 canva size x; > #X text 267 79 x; > #X text 267 48 y; > #X obj 329 14 loadbang; > #X text 135 369 keep list of shown canvas; > #X text 102 404 send back shown canvas off screen; > #X text 222 290 randomly select and move canvas on screen, f 17; > #X obj 11 265 r clear; > #X connect 1 0 2 0; > #X connect 2 0 5 0; > #X connect 2 1 4 0; > #X connect 4 0 3 0; > #X connect 5 0 4 1; > #X connect 6 0 5 3; > #X connect 7 0 5 2; > #X connect 8 0 5 1; > #X connect 12 0 6 0; > #X connect 12 0 7 0; > #X connect 12 0 8 0; > #X connect 16 0 4 0; > #X restore 60 240 pd gen; > #N canvas -8 -8 1366 726 add 0; > #N canvas -8 -8 1366 726 uzi 0; > #X obj 27 142 until; > #X obj 26 173 f; > #X obj 72 174 + 1; > #X obj 137 255 sel; > #X obj 152 218 - 1; > #X msg 137 297 0; > #X obj 62 82 t f f; > #X obj 85 446 outlet; > #X obj 62 50 inlet; > #X obj 28 379 t f b; > #X obj 27 443 outlet; > #X connect 0 0 1 0; > #X connect 1 0 2 0; > #X connect 1 0 3 0; > #X connect 1 0 9 0; > #X connect 2 0 1 1; > #X connect 3 0 5 0; > #X connect 4 0 3 1; > #X connect 5 0 1 1; > #X connect 6 0 0 0; > #X connect 6 1 4 0; > #X connect 8 0 6 0; > #X connect 9 0 10 0; > #X connect 9 1 7 0; > #X restore 42 121 pd uzi; > #X obj 72 196 symbol; > #X msg 42 96 4; > #X obj 44 60 t b a; > #X obj 42 249 list prepend; > #X obj 42 176 + 1; > #X text 12 24 name; > #X msg 42 284 \; pd-droidparty_main.pd obj 500 500 cnv 50 100 50 \$1 > \$1\$2 \$1 20 12 2 14 10 2; > #X msg 45 23 ta; > #X connect 0 0 5 0; > #X connect 1 0 4 1; > #X connect 2 0 0 0; > #X connect 3 0 2 0; > #X connect 3 1 1 0; > #X connect 4 0 7 0; > #X connect 5 0 4 0; > #X connect 8 0 3 0; > #X restore 1 240 pd add; > #X obj 500 500 cnv 50 100 50 mi mi2 mi 20 12 2 14 -233017 -66577 0 > ; > #X obj 500 500 cnv 50 100 50 mi mi3 mi 20 12 2 14 -233017 -66577 0 > ; > #X obj 500 500 cnv 50 100 50 mi mi4 mi 20 12 2 14 -233017 -66577 0 > ; > #X obj 500 500 cnv 50 100 50 di di1 di 20 12 2 14 -233017 -66577 0 > ; > #X obj 500 500 cnv 50 100 50 di di2 di 20 12 2 14 -233017 -66577 0 > ; > #X obj 500 500 cnv 50 100 50 di di3 di 20 12 2 14 -233017 -66577 0 > ; > #X obj 500 500 cnv 50 100 50 di di4 di 20 12 2 14 -233017 -66577 0 > ; > #X obj 500 500 cnv 50 100 50 ka ka1 ka 20 12 2 14 -233017 -66577 0 > ; > #X obj 500 500 cnv 50 100 50 ka ka2 ka 20 12 2 14 -233017 -66577 0 > ; > #X obj 500 500 cnv 50 100 50 ka ka3 ka 20 12 2 14 -233017 -66577 0 > ; > #X obj 500 500 cnv 50 100 50 ka ka4 ka 20 12 2 14 -233017 -66577 0 > ; > #X obj 500 500 cnv 50 100 50 ta ta1 ta 20 12 2 14 -233017 -66577 0 > ; > #X obj 500 500 cnv 50 100 50 ta ta2 ta 20 12 2 14 -233017 -66577 0 > ; > #X obj 500 500 cnv 50 100 50 ta ta3 ta 20 12 2 14 -233017 -66577 0 > ; > #X obj 500 500 cnv 50 100 50 ta ta4 ta 20 12 2 14 -233017 -66577 0 > ; > #N canvas -8 -8 1366 686 interface 0; > #X msg 13 204 ta; > #X msg 20 161 ka; > #X msg 33 119 di; > #X msg 49 77 mi; > #X msg 82 37 taka; > #X msg 128 36 tadi; > #X msg 173 35 tami; > #X msg 264 36 kami; > #X msg 308 37 dimi; > #X msg 218 36 kadi; > #X msg 352 47 takadi; > #X msg 357 92 takami; > #X msg 363 137 tadimi; > #X msg 371 181 kadimi; > #X msg 375 227 takadimi; > #X obj 13 183 r ta; > #X obj 20 140 r ka; > #X obj 33 98 r di; > #X obj 49 55 r mi; > #X obj 82 15 r taka; > #X obj 128 15 r tadi; > #X obj 173 14 r tami; > #X obj 218 14 r kadi; > #X obj 264 13 r kami; > #X obj 308 13 r dimi; > #X obj 352 24 r takadi; > #X obj 357 69 r takami; > #X obj 363 113 r tadimi; > #X obj 371 158 r kadimi; > #X obj 375 203 r takadimi; > #X obj 186 310 outlet; > #X obj 14 232 r chut; > #X msg 14 255 chut; > #X connect 0 0 30 0; > #X connect 1 0 30 0; > #X connect 2 0 30 0; > #X connect 3 0 30 0; > #X connect 4 0 30 0; > #X connect 5 0 30 0; > #X connect 6 0 30 0; > #X connect 7 0 30 0; > #X connect 8 0 30 0; > #X connect 9 0 30 0; > #X connect 10 0 30 0; > #X connect 11 0 30 0; > #X connect 12 0 30 0; > #X connect 13 0 30 0; > #X connect 14 0 30 0; > #X connect 15 0 0 0; > #X connect 16 0 1 0; > #X connect 17 0 2 0; > #X connect 18 0 3 0; > #X connect 19 0 4 0; > #X connect 20 0 5 0; > #X connect 21 0 6 0; > #X connect 22 0 9 0; > #X connect 23 0 7 0; > #X connect 24 0 8 0; > #X connect 25 0 10 0; > #X connect 26 0 11 0; > #X connect 27 0 12 0; > #X connect 28 0 13 0; > #X connect 29 0 14 0; > #X connect 31 0 32 0; > #X connect 32 0 30 0; > #X restore 245 209 pd interface; > #X obj 245 239 s rythme; > #X obj 16 10 bng 50 250 50 0 generate empty gen 17 22 0 10 -262144 > -1 -1; > #X obj 166 6 bng 50 250 50 0 clear empty clear 14 22 0 10 -262144 -1 > -1; > #X obj 290 8 bng 15 250 50 0 ta empty ta 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1; > #X obj 290 27 bng 15 250 50 0 ka empty ka 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1; > #X obj 290 44 bng 15 250 50 0 di empty di 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1; > #X obj 290 62 bng 15 250 50 0 mi empty mi 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1; > #X obj 500 500 cnv 50 100 50 mi mi1 mi 20 12 2 14 -233017 -66577 0 > ; > #X text 68 4 randomly move canvas with svg imagesto build a 4/4 mesure > , f 15; > #X text 327 203 receive bang from ta/ka/di/mi bang and send rythme > message to list_gen subpatch, f 25; > #X text 321 -2 supposed to add or delete lines in rythme_list text > object (work on Pc but not on Droidparty (see list_gen subpatch embed > in the instruction subpatch inside gen subpatch, f 26; > #X connect 18 0 19 0; > > -- http://mccormick.cx/

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William Brent's [convolve~ ] dekenized
by Roman Haefeli 18 Jan '19

18 Jan '19

Hey For those interested: I took the liberty to package William Brent's [convolve~ ] external and make it available through Deken. [convolve~ ] does real-time partitioned convolution where the partition size and thus the resulting delay can be set. http://williambrent.conflations.com/pages/research.html Roman P.S.: Didn't have the chance to test on macOS. I'm happy about reports.

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Sensel Morph External
by pat pagano 12 Nov '18

12 Nov '18

hello i am hoping that someone might have an external for the new Sensel Morph? I just gotone and it seems to be pretty responsive i found this http://roaldbaudoux.org/nouvelles/112-max-msp-jitter/100-sensel-morph-max-e… and it works very well and i am wondering if someone could either give me a hand getting it working or might be able to help me compile or get it playing nice with Pure Data here is the main page for it https://sensel.com/pages/morph it has really expressive Velocity and apparently is MPE which all the kids are going crazy for nowadays :-) cheers~ -- *Patrick Pagano B.S, M.F.A* Interactive Media & Education Audio Projection & Performance Design *Columbia, Maryland USA* *http://shreeswifty.github.io <http://shreeswifty.github.io>* *(352)226-2016*

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videoPYLON C++ update needed
by Csaba Láng 04 Sep '18

04 Sep '18

Dear list! as we know Gem is already quite outdated, the videoPYLON plugin was written in 2011. Since that time USB3 has arrived and the GigE cameras are not as efficient as the new technology (2.5x faster connection is the USB3) Pylon has already version 5.x (opensource) and provides driver to both USB3 and GigE cameras. Anyway, I would like to ask if someone has the time to update the code for the fresh USB3 cameras, *donation is possible!* here are the link to Pylon: https://www.baslerweb.com/en/sales-support/downloads/software-downloads/pyl… and the videoPYLON code on git: https://github.com/umlaeute/Gem/tree/master/plugins/videoPYLON Please let me know if anybody interested! Best, Popesz

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Re: [PD] questions about Preferences
by rolfm＠dds.nl 31 Aug '18

31 Aug '18

> > On 2018-08-30 14:17, rolfm(a)dds.nl wrote: >> hi, >> >> i have some questions about the Preferences (i'm on Windows 10, >> Pd-0.48.1). >> >> after changing the 'Externals Install Directory' in the Preferences >> (EID >> for short) plugins are still loaded from the standard AppData/../Pd >> folder. >> >> is that a bug? > > depends on your pov. > > the "Externals *Install* Directory" is an output directory (where to > store download externals) rather an input directory (where to search > for > externals). > you do have a list of search-directories on the top of that very > searchpath-preferences window you are currently interacting with... > > fgmasdr > IOhannes > @IOhannes thanks for the clarification. still, the searchpath-preferences are apparently different for externals and for plugins. for the plugins the standard folder is used anyway and also first. BTW is there a way to declare a .pdsettings in the command-line? (i cannot find one). rolf

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questions about Preferences
by rolfm＠dds.nl 30 Aug '18

30 Aug '18

hi, i have some questions about the Preferences (i'm on Windows 10, Pd-0.48.1). after changing the 'Externals Install Directory' in the Preferences (EID for short) plugins are still loaded from the standard AppData/../Pd folder. is that a bug? when i save the preferences to a file, the EID is not included in this 'my.pdsettings'. furthermore, this 'my.pdsettings' gets applied to every Pd-instance i have on my system. so, the settings are still per-machine? rolf

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[PD-announce] ELSE 1.0 beta 11 and Live Electrnics Tutorial (vol. 1) Released
by Alexandre Torres Porres 30 Aug '18

30 Aug '18

Hi, I'm making two announcements at once. I'm releasing yet another beta version of ELSE, but I'm also releasing (this one is supposed to be a biggie for me) a first draft of my didactic material that I'm translating to English from Brazilian Portuguese and here it is: https://github.com/porres/Live-Electornics-Tutorial So far the vol. 1 is ready (vol. 2 maybe done by october). I've been working on this for exactly 10 years now, since I first started using Pure Data to teach computer music and it's nice to finally share this in English (but expect typos and other horrible things, remember this is a 1st draft). Feedbacks are welcome! The plan is to write a book to be accompanied by these examples. The old portuguese version that still relies in the one decade old Pd Extended 0.42-5 is found here for those who wanna check out what else is coming (Part 4 to 6 is gonna be "vol. 2") https://github.com/porres/LiveElectronicsTutorial Most of the recent work is into upgrading this to the latest Pd vanilla and also in the development of ELSE, which is now the only library needed as a dependency for these examples. And it now needs the latest release of ELSE: beta 11 - which brings us back to the first announcement. This is up on deken for the major OS, so just download it directly from Pd and check details here: https://github.com/porres/pd-else/releases cheers _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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Re: [PD] [closebang] issue ...
by Dan Wilcox 29 Aug '18

29 Aug '18

+1 I think it should be native as well. It's a logical complement to [loadbang] and is one of those few things I need in PdParty that I've implemented using a wrapper around a message to [r #closebang]. > On Aug 29, 2018, at 5:37 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2018 09:58:29 -0300 > From: José de Abreu <abreubacelar(a)gmail.com <mailto:abreubacelar@gmail.com>> > To: oliver <oliver(a)klingt.org <mailto:oliver@klingt.org>> > Cc: pd-list(a)mail.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@mail.iem.at> > Subject: Re: [PD] [closebang] issue ... > > Save on patching closing is a strong point for having a native closebang. > > But, on the other side, why is not good to have closebang as native? -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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