Pd-list December 2017

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Re: [PD] Fw: Re: [PD-announce] Pd 0.48-1 test version released
by Dan Wilcox 13 Dec '17

13 Dec '17

Yes, the sizes are a little smaller/tighter and come from Pd-extended. Things work best with DejaVu Sans Mono so rendering should be the same using the same font. For more info, see: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/159 <https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/159> If everyone ends up hating this, we could just go back to Courier on all platforms. At least then we wouldn't have to ship a font.... Note: DejaVu Sans Mono is the default font but it's not currently shipped with or loaded by Pd on Windows yet. There is some extra work needed for this and it seemed important to fix the sizing issues on macOS first. I wrote up some info about the fonts in https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/blob/master/font/README.txt <https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/blob/master/font/README.txt> Also, zooming now works for all guis, the inlets & outlets are the same height, lots of little drawing bugs were fixed (VU scale not completly hidden), etc etc etc. > On Dec 5, 2017, at 7:35 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2017 18:14:59 +0000 > From: Lucas Cordiviola <lucarda27(a)hotmail.com <mailto:lucarda27@hotmail.com>> > To: "pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>" <pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>>, Christof Ressi > <christof.ressi(a)gmx.at <mailto:christof.ressi@gmx.at>> > Subject: Re: [PD] Fw: Re: [PD-announce] Pd 0.48-1 test version > released > Message-ID: > <BLUPR01MB552BC5EB5950BA429B62D5FA63D0(a)BLUPR01MB552.prod.exchangelabs.com <mailto:BLUPR01MB552BC5EB5950BA429B62D5FA63D0@BLUPR01MB552.prod.exchangelabs.com>> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi Christof, > > Yes this changes were totally intentional, and are for good IMO, now patches render the same on all platforms!. > > They were well tested, see: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/227 <https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/227> > > > : - ) -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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Re: [PD] Scroll bar behaviour
by Dan Wilcox 12 Dec '17

12 Dec '17

You have to *move* the mouse for the cursor to update. This was the case before 0.48 and there is really no way for it to happen with Tk that I've found. > On Dec 8, 2017, at 8:47 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > From: Martin Hiendl <martin(a)martinhiendl.com <mailto:martin@martinhiendl.com>> > To: Alexandre Torres Porres <porres(a)gmail.com <mailto:porres@gmail.com>> > Cc: "pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>" <pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>> > Subject: Re: [PD] Scroll bar behaviour > Message-ID: > <CAB4oY=y_SD+aeNkvmiPMpU5=s3U+ybsObdA9Er=Am9ak+dZCWA(a)mail.gmail.com <mailto:CAB4oY=y_SD+aeNkvmiPMpU5=s3U+ybsObdA9Er=Am9ak+dZCWA@mail.gmail.com>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > …also sometimes the mouse pointer doesn't update when switching into > Edit Mode (even after moving the mouse), but I can't seem to find an > exact way to reproduce it. This hasn't been that way in 0.47 > > best > Martin -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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Purr Data 2.4.5
by Jonathan Wilkes 12 Dec '17

12 Dec '17

Hi list,Purr Data 2.4.5 is available: https://github.com/jonwwilkes/purr-data/releases/tag/2.4.5 Please report bugs here: https://git.purrdata.net/jwilkes/purr-data/issues Changes * remove [midiclkin]* handle [draw] events correctly for nested data structure arrays * improve the deb package build system by autogenerating most of the dependencies * add [list store] * protect against a segfault when a nested data structure array has element size of "0". -Jonathan

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hoa & cream can't load library on 0.48/0.48.1-test
by Amur Tet 12 Dec '17

12 Dec '17

hi pd-list! someone of you is experiencing loading problems with hoa & cream library with the latest Vanilla releases (0.48+0.48.1-test3)? Best, Marco

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.48-1 test version released
by Dan Wilcox 12 Dec '17

12 Dec '17

> On Dec 10, 2017, at 12:00 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2017 22:01:22 +0100 > From: Roman Haefeli <reduzent(a)gmail.com <mailto:reduzent@gmail.com>> > To: pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at> > Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.48-1 test version released > Message-ID: <1512853282.2591.17.camel(a)gmail.com <mailto:1512853282.2591.17.camel@gmail.com>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > On Mon, 2017-12-04 at 12:28 -0800, Miller Puckette wrote: >> To pd-announce: >> >> Pd 0.48-1 is available in a first test version (0.48-1test3). This >> should >> fix or at least improve the spacing problems in 0.48-0 on macintosh >> computers, >> and contains many other bug fixes. > > It seems box sizes are consistent across platforms now. This is good > news and a big deal for me. Many thanks to the people involved (mostly > you, Dan, is that right?) I did a lot of the actual coding but there was a large number of people doing the testing to validate it. Also, the metrics and chosen font were already working for years in extended, so we were able to build upon that effort, thankfully. -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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Re: [PD] Scroll bar behaviour
by Dan Wilcox 12 Dec '17

12 Dec '17

I'm well aware of it and haven't been able to figure it out. It seems to be another detail that comes with the Cocoa backend to Tk 8.5+. The second thing is that Pd windows *always* open above everything else. This was also not the case with Tk 8.4. Oh well... I suppose that's better than not bing able to run Pd at all on 10.13 and I'm, not sure I have another *week* to track it down right now. > On Dec 8, 2017, at 7:13 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2017 11:12:52 -0500 > From: Martin Hiendl <martin(a)martinhiendl.com <mailto:martin@martinhiendl.com>> > To: pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at> > Subject: [PD] Scroll bar behaviour > Message-ID: > <CAB4oY=yxj8nqufkWW9VR2_3VO03pFyY5LLnGGv65TFXudUr1sQ(a)mail.gmail.com <mailto:CAB4oY=yxj8nqufkWW9VR2_3VO03pFyY5LLnGGv65TFXudUr1sQ@mail.gmail.com>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hi list, > > Sorry if this has already been brought up somewhere and I couldn't > find it… Since 0.48-0 I'm having a weird behavior with the scroll > bars. As soon as I resize a window, the scroll bars show up even > though the window is bigger than the patch. The only way to make them > disappear again is to either a) click the title bar and drag the > window somewhere else on the screen or b) select all objects in the > patch and move them in any direction. After having done either one of > these once, the window and the scroll bars behave normally again. > > Anyone else experiences that? > > I'm on mac OS 10.13.2 > > best > Martin -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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Fwd: weird "console" window shows up
by José Rafael Subía Valdez 12 Dec '17

12 Dec '17

Hello list, this was a surprise and a bit strange, the other day I noticed that near the superior left edge of my first screen I could see something (image 1 and 1_a) so I stretched it and this weird console window came up (image 2). The window is obviously from PD. I cant close it but I, but I can minimize it and when I maximize it again, it comes up like (image 3). today I noticed it again so decided to ask. I am in mac 10.10.5 with pd vanilla 0.48 what is this? cheers [image: Inline image 6] [image: Inline image 7] [image: Inline image 8] -- José Rafael Subía Valdez www.jrsv.net

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Re: [PD] Gem: can't load library -- FIXED. Download msvcr71.dll
by Samuel Burt 12 Dec '17

12 Dec '17

Thanks, Lucas. That's exactly what I needed and couldn't find. That last exchange was from 2016. Any reason the dll isn't included now? Is it some kind of licensing issue? Sam On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 6:51 PM Lucas Cordiviola <lucarda27(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > Sorry, i replayed only to the list. > > see below. > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: Re: [PD] Gem: can't load library > Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 19:32:25 -0300 > From: Lucas Cordiviola <lucarda27(a)hotmail.com> <lucarda27(a)hotmail.com> > To: pd-list(a)lists.iem.at > > Try downloading "msvcr71.dll" and put in the same dir as "gem.dll" > > Read https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2016-08/115851.html > > > Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas. > > On 12/11/2017 7:06 PM, Samuel Burt wrote: > > Dear list, > > I'm running Pd 0.48.0 on Windows 10 Pro (v1709, OS 16299.98), and I can't > get Gem to load. I've spend most of the day on this. I've verified that > zexy and cyclone load. > > I'm using deken to download Gem 0.93.3 to ~/AppData/Roaming/Pd/. > I've also tried manual installing Gem. > I've tried it in the Pd/extras folder, too, and I've tried it in > ~/Documents/Pd/externals/. > > I've let deken add paths for these directories automatically and I've > tried to create my own paths. > > I've attempted to load Gem with [declare -lib Gem], [declare -stdlib Gem], > and combinations that included file paths. > > I'm stumped. Has anyone else run into problems with loading Gem in Pd > recently? > > The pd-vanilla page and installer don't say whether it is 32- or 64-bit, > but I'm assuming Pd-vanilla on Windows is still 32-bit so that shouldn't be > a problem. Right? > > Thanks if you know something that can help me. > > Sam > > > > > > _______________________________________________Pd-list(a)lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > >

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Gem: can't load library
by Samuel Burt 11 Dec '17

11 Dec '17

Dear list, I'm running Pd 0.48.0 on Windows 10 Pro (v1709, OS 16299.98), and I can't get Gem to load. I've spend most of the day on this. I've verified that zexy and cyclone load. I'm using deken to download Gem 0.93.3 to ~/AppData/Roaming/Pd/. I've also tried manual installing Gem. I've tried it in the Pd/extras folder, too, and I've tried it in ~/Documents/Pd/externals/. I've let deken add paths for these directories automatically and I've tried to create my own paths. I've attempted to load Gem with [declare -lib Gem], [declare -stdlib Gem], and combinations that included file paths. I'm stumped. Has anyone else run into problems with loading Gem in Pd recently? The pd-vanilla page and installer don't say whether it is 32- or 64-bit, but I'm assuming Pd-vanilla on Windows is still 32-bit so that shouldn't be a problem. Right? Thanks if you know something that can help me. Sam

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Do I need 2 Gem/PD instances for this application
by Jim Ruxton 11 Dec '17

11 Dec '17

I want to use Gem to capture still frames from a video stream. I was going to use pix_write . At the same time I want to turn those still frames into a movie and output them in a Gem window. Since pix_write captures the rendered output I assume I need 1 PD instance for the capture and 1 PD instance for the output. Related to this should I use pix_multiimage to output the frames or use a script to continually create a movie then use pix_film? In other words the output movie will continuously get longer as frames are captured from the video stream. I know I will need to allow time for loading, saving etc. Thanks for any advice before I tackle this. I am using Linux. Jim

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