Pd-list December 2015

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record rhythm
by Simon Iten 21 Dec '15

21 Dec '15

dear list, i am trying to record “rhythm”. my somewhat naive approach is attached. it works for small array sizes, but as i make the array bigger (several thousand points) most of the bonks are not recorded. what is the reason? i am running pd-0.46-7-64bit on osx. cheers

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How to update Pd 0.45.4 to 0.46.7 0n Ubuntu 14.4 (Odroid XU4)
by Ingo 21 Dec '15

21 Dec '15

I'm trying to update the Pd version 0.45.4 that came with the Ubuntu 14.4 on my Odroid XU4. I have downloaded the source of 0.46.7 and compiled it. The INSTALL.txt says this: . run the following commands: ./autogen.sh ./configure make I ran that but this obvoiusly does not actually install Pd 0.46.7 What is missing? Thanks, Ingo

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Re: [PD] Pd-list Digest, Vol 129, Issue 84
by Dan Wilcox 21 Dec '15

21 Dec '15

> OK, I did it once more and found out that it installed the files in > /usr/local/lib/ instead of /user/lib/ where it used to be. You need to set the prefix to /usr as the default with autoconf is /usr/local ./configure —prefix=/usr/local make sudo make install > It also did not associate the ".pd" extension with Pd anymore so I have to > open them with "Open" from the file menu or the command line. The Linux desktop environment specific file extension stuff from Pd-extended is not yet included with Pd vanilla. > Could I simply move the pd folder to the old directory (/user/lib/) or would > that cause problems? See above. > I'm still having lots of problems with externals that I installed via deken. > Doesn't look like I can get my old stuff running that was originally created > with Pd-Extended. “Lots of problems” sounds like you’re still missing requird externals and/or -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <https://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/> > On Dec 20, 2015, at 10:18 AM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > From: "Ingo" <ingo(a)miamiwave.com <mailto:ingo@miamiwave.com>> > Subject: Re: [PD] How to update Pd 0.45.4 to 0.46.7 0n Ubuntu 14.4 (Odroid XU4) > Date: December 20, 2015 at 10:18:33 AM MST > To: "'Alexandros Drymonitis'" <adrcki(a)gmail.com <mailto:adrcki@gmail.com>> > Cc: pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at> > > >

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Re: [PD] Regression Issue/Bug: Range-limited [hsl] responds differently on out-of-range input
by Dan Wilcox 21 Dec '15

21 Dec '15

Judging from this commit, the new behavior is by design: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/commit/f0a3a0c621dacc1f617cf07b38d8d… <https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/commit/f0a3a0c621dacc1f617cf07b38d8d…> I seem to remember a long discussion where people *did not* like the clipping behavior. The rational was that the min/max values are meant for the UI min and max without enforcing direct clipping which you can do using [clip] explicitly. Also judging form the commit, you can simply launch pd with an older compatibly mode. -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <https://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/> > On Dec 20, 2015, at 4:07 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > From: William Huston <williamahuston(a)gmail.com <mailto:williamahuston@gmail.com>> > Subject: [PD] Regression Issue/Bug: Range-limited [hsl] responds differently on out-of-range input > Date: December 20, 2015 at 4:06:36 PM MST > To: "pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>" <pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>> > > > Regression Issue/Bug: > > Issue: Range-limited [hsl] responds differently on out-of-range input > PD Versions: 0.43.4-extended vs 0.46.7 > OS: Raspbian > > The patch is: > > [1000( > | > [hsl] # range limted 0-127 (default setting) > | > [nbx] > > Upon a bang to the message box, > 0.43.4-extended the answer is 127. > On 0.46.7 the answer is 1000.

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Regression Issue/Bug: Range-limited [hsl] responds differently on out-of-range input
by William Huston 21 Dec '15

21 Dec '15

Regression Issue/Bug: *Issue: Range-limited [hsl] responds differently on out-of-range input* *PD Versions: 0.43.4-extended vs 0.46.7* *OS: Raspbian * *The patch is:[1000(|* *[hsl] # range limted 0-127 (default setting)|* *[nbx] * *Upon a bang to the message box, 0.43.4-extended the answer is 127.* *On 0.46.7 the answer is 1000. * I feel because the [hsl] is range limited, 127 is the right answer. *Output should respect the limited range. * thanks, BH (Forgive me for the inline graphic. I reduced as much as I could, 2kb-4bit gif) -- -- May you, and all beings be happy and free from suffering :) -- ancient Buddhist Prayer (Metta)

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Please move bug tracking OFF Sourceforge.
by William Huston 20 Dec '15

20 Dec '15

Please move bug tracking OFF Sourceforge. It is a well known fact that SF has joined the Dark Side, inserts malware into installers, and is blocked by many browsers. I cannot post a bug now because of a malware blocker *which I do not feel like disabling. * For a *major* Open-Source software development project to remain partners w/SF at this point *is not acceptable*. Thanks, BH -- -- May you, and all beings be happy and free from suffering :) -- ancient Buddhist Prayer (Metta)

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fat binaries or not, on OSX (was: 'Pd 64 bits' for OSX is i386 + ppc)
by katja 20 Dec '15

20 Dec '15

On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 1:00 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig <zmoelnig(a)iem.at> wrote: > On 2015-12-15 11:07, katja wrote: >> This looks good, thanks for proving me wrong. Which OSX version is >> this? I've had troubles with denormals in fat binaries in the past >> (OSX 10.5). It turned out that the preprocessor didn't pass >> architecture defines when preprocessing for multiple architectures. > > tested on both 10.6 and 10.9 > > $ sw_vers > ProductName: Mac OS X > ProductVersion: 10.6.8 > BuildVersion: 10K549 > $ cc --version > i686-apple-darwin10-gcc-4.2.1 (GCC) 4.2.1 (Apple Inc. build 5666) (dot 3) > > resp. > > $ sw_vers > ProductName: Mac OS X > ProductVersion: 10.9.5 > BuildVersion: 13F34 > $ cat vers.txt > Apple LLVM version 6.0 (clang-600.0.57) (based on LLVM 3.5svn) > Target: x86_64-apple-darwin13.4.0 > Thread model: posix > Today I could test the same on OSX 10.5 with Xcode 3.1.4 installed and it seems to work fine here as well (__i386__ resp. __x86_64__ defined in the case of fat binaries). $ sw_vers ProductName: Mac OS X ProductVersion: 10.5.8 BuildVersion: 9L31a $ cc --version i686-apple-darwin9-gcc-4.0.1 (GCC) 4.0.1 (Apple Inc. build 5493) Only thing I can't test now is with gcc < 4 but so far my 'issue' couldn't be reproduced, fortunately.

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questions about updating GUI
by rolfm＠dds.nl 19 Dec '15

19 Dec '15

hi list, i would appreciate when somebody wants to / can answer some questions about the updating of the GUI. i've a Pd GUI as front-end for controlling Arduino's. there's numberboxes and buttons/toggles with changing colors. of course it's necessary that the visual aids are not disrupting the stream of data from and to the Arduino's. every now and then on this list there are warnings about having too many GUI updated too frequently. - this has all to do with how Pd internally handles the updating? - is there a difference in how Vanilla and PDextended do this? (on the webpage for PDext 43.4 a complete rewrite of the GUI process is mentioned and "GUI objects no longer send pointless draw updates, reducing GUI load "). - does the (influence of the) updating concern only the on screen visible GUI objects? - does it make a diffence when a GUI object is part of an abstraction? rolf

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[midirealtimein] & [midiclkin]; undocumented objects in vanilla
by Alexandre Torres Porres 19 Dec '15

19 Dec '15

Howdy, just found these 2 midi objects in vanilla that have no help file and are not mentioned in the midi-help.pd file, neither are present in the "MIDI and OSC" section of help-intro.pd I wonder why, were they just forgotten or is there something wrong with them? I wouldn't know how to test them, I wonder if anyone could test them or ever used them cheers

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Re: [PD] comport rxerrors on W10
by rolfm＠dds.nl 18 Dec '15

18 Dec '15

Martin Peach schreef op 17-12-2015 22:48: > And what was the other end of the USB cable connected to? > > On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 3:55 PM, <rolfm(a)dds.nl> wrote: > >> Martin Peach schreef op 17-12-2015 19:15: >> >>> Hi Rolf, >>> >>> Is that an Arduino that you are unplugging? On Windows10? >> the USB cable out of my laptop >> >> rolf Arduino Uno

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