Pd-list October 2012

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Stream phone call to pd?
by Sebastian Valenzuela 30 Oct '12

30 Oct '12

Hey everyone, I know this is a longshot, and most likely not the best place to ask this sort of question, but maybe you can point me in the right direction. I'm working on an art installation which requires the interception of phone conversations to be sent to my macbook and manipulated in Pd. Willing participants would connect their phones (via bluetooth?) to my computer and all audio would be streamed to my laptop in real time and routed into Pd. I realize one could just connect their phones to their laptops via an 8th inch TRS cable and an audio interface... but the idea is to make this connection wirelessly. Any ideas? Anything would be helpful. Thank you for your time, Sebastian -- Sebastian Ignacio Valenzuela Rojas Composer - Performer svalenzuelamusic.wix.com/home youtube.com/svalenzuelamusic <http://www.youtube.com/svalenzuelamusic>

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Re: [PD] windowing extended objetcs, mistakes on help files and how to make them into vanilla patches
by Alexandre Torres Porres 29 Oct '12

29 Oct '12

> I suggest that the bugs are in the > descriptions rather than the objects yep, that is what I meant. It's actually no bug then, just some descriptive mistake, easily correctable by altering the comments in the help files. I was trying to get a hold of the author in here to warn him about it, but if needed I can file a bug report. I was also curious and asking how to make them into Pd vanilla patches. I was able to make them all as patches but the kaiser window, and the gaussian is a bit different too. cheers Alex

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Re: [PD] Stream phone call to pd?
by katja 29 Oct '12

29 Oct '12

Sorry Sebastian, you did not read correctly. I had a bluetooth headset included as a sound card in Aggregate Device, but not a phone. When I connect a phone via bluetooth it can be used for data transfer but not for audio. Like Simon suggested, you could try connect a bluetooth headset's output with cables to your computer sound card and have the user pair with that bluetooth headset. Not sure if the phone's wired headset would still function, it may be disabled when using bluetooth? Can't check at the moment. I had a very cheap but functional BCK-08 from dealextreme.com and a Jabra. Batteries of both are dead now after a few years. Katja On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Sebastian Valenzuela <svalenzuelamusic(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Katja, > > Thank you for your reply. I did find a way to SEND audio to my phone via a wifi connection. A mac application called Airfoil allowed me to connect to my android phone (using this app called AirBubble). What I need is to send either the conversation happening on the phone to my computer or at least send what the mic is picking up on the phone to the computer. > > I'm wondering if I read correctly - did you say you were able to do this by turning your phone into an aggregate device, but that it had crazy latency? For my purposes thats not as important really! Could you please tell me how you did that? > > Best, > Sebastian > > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 6:52 AM, katja <katjavetter(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hello Sebastian, >> >> Couple of years ago I tried to use a bluetooth stereo device for >> wireless monitoring in Pd. Nice thing about OSX is you can create an >> 'Aggregated Device' in 'Audio MIDI Setup' to include the bluetooth >> stereo to the regular sound card and use the extra channels in Pd. >> However, I soon found that bluetooth stereo had over half a second >> latency, so it was not useful for my purpose of monitoring. Besides >> that, bluetooth audio pairing was really a pain in OSX (back then at >> least). >> >> Another thing, when connecting a phone as bluetooth device to MacBook, >> I see the following services: Dial-up Networking, Human interface >> device, OBEX File Transfer, OBEX Object Push. None of these makes the >> phone available as an extra audio interface. No way to capture it's >> audio in Pd, like it can be done with bluetooth headsets. >> >> With WIFI-enabled cell phones there may be better possibilities, using >> Skype or similar, and route audio to Pd with Jack or Soundflower. >> >> Katja >> >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:21 AM, Sebastian Valenzuela >> <svalenzuelamusic(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > Hey everyone, >> > >> > I know this is a longshot, and most likely not the best place to ask this sort of question, but maybe you can point me in the right direction. I'm working on an art installation which requires the interception of phone conversations to be sent to my macbook and manipulated in Pd. Willing participants would connect their phones (via bluetooth?) to my computer and all audio would be streamed to my laptop in real time and routed into Pd. I realize one could just connect their phones to their laptops via an 8th inch TRS cable and an audio interface... but the idea is to make this connection wirelessly. >> > >> > Any ideas? Anything would be helpful. >> > >> > Thank you for your time, >> > Sebastian >> > >> > -- >> > Sebastian Ignacio Valenzuela Rojas >> > Composer - Performer >> > svalenzuelamusic.wix.com/home >> > youtube.com/svalenzuelamusic >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list >> > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> > > > > > > -- > Sebastian Ignacio Valenzuela Rojas > Composer - Performer > svalenzuelamusic.wix.com/home > youtube.com/svalenzuelamusic >

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 beta release, its, almost done!
by Isaac Thompson 29 Oct '12

29 Oct '12

This happens to me too on OS X, but only with Portaudio! Using Jack everything's normal. Thanks > Hello all, > > Any idea about that? > Should I fill the bugtracker? > It really prevents me from using the 0.43 version under osx. > I'd like to know if it's for all osx user like that. > > Thanks in advance, > best, > n

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Re: [PD] Routing MIDI on windows machines?
by Dan Wilcox 29 Oct '12

29 Oct '12

For Mac, I set up custom IAC in/out ports for PureData and use Midi Patchbay to connect other apps to them. On Linux, there is always aconnect & aconnectgui or, if you're using jack, qjackctl. On Oct 29, 2012, at 2:05 AM, pd-list-request(a)iem.at wrote: > From: Björn Eriksson <miulew(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [PD] Routing MIDI on windows machines? > Date: October 29, 2012 2:04:43 AM EDT > To: "Pagano, Patrick" <pat(a)digitalworlds.ufl.edu>, Pd - list <pd-list(a)iem.at> > > > Thanks, looks promising. I will test them both! > > http://www.maplemidi.com/Maple_driver.html > http://www.nerds.de/en/loopbe1.html > > I used MIDI yoke long time ago but it seems that it is not updated any > more for newer windows os. > > > The MIDI router question is for recommendations for students of mine. > I run also Ubuntu sometimes but never or very seldom OSX. Maybe it > could be something to have on Pd web site with some recommendations > about this as I guess it is something that many new users wants to > start exploring - to use Pd as a MIDI engine for other softwares!? > > So to extend a little what is the best MIDI routers (in general) for > > -Linux > > -OS X > > ? > > > All the best, > Björn -------- Dan Wilcox danomatika.com robotcowboy.com

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Re: [PD] Routing MIDI on windows machines?
by Dan Wilcox 29 Oct '12

29 Oct '12

There is also loopMIDI http://www.tobias-erichsen.de/loopMIDI.html which works pretty well with what testing I've done on Win 7 with OpenFrameworks + ofxMidi (uses RtMidi). On Oct 29, 2012, at 7:00 AM, pd-list-request(a)iem.at wrote: > From: Pierre-Olivier Boulant <po.boulant(a)free.fr> > Subject: Re: [PD] Routing MIDI on windows machines? > Date: October 29, 2012 3:24:44 AM EDT > To: Pd - list <pd-list(a)iem.at> > > > Hi, > > Despite the warnings, midiYoke and midiOx both work with Windows vista and 7, either 32bits and 64 bits. No problem what so ever here. > > Cheers > Pierre-Olivier -------- Dan Wilcox danomatika.com robotcowboy.com

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Routing MIDI on windows machines?
by Björn Eriksson 29 Oct '12

29 Oct '12

This might be very obvious, but has someone a good open source suggestion for routing MIDI between Pd and other applications on a windows machine? Is JACK the alternative to go for? I bet there is a lot of hits if I google it, but I prefer to raise this question here... Happy for any hints! /Björn Eriksson

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array modification, segmented lines
by peiman khosravi 29 Oct '12

29 Oct '12

Dear all, Are there any messages to draw functions of segmented lines (ideally with different types of interpolations) inside an array? Or does one need to create this manually by writing each array index? So I would like to be able to define segments by providing lists of start_position, segment_length, end_position. Many Thanks Peiman

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where are sources for pd-extended 0.43.4 ??
by Fero Kiraly 29 Oct '12

29 Oct '12

is it this ? svn checkout https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/trunk pure-data t

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Audio glitches with windows xp
by Alexandros Drymonitis 28 Oct '12

28 Oct '12

Hi all, Yesterday I was giving an introductory course on Pd and a couple of students who had ACER laptops running windows xp had really audible glitches when playing only sinewaves. Is there something to be installed to the computer to avoid this? Is it supposed to be a know problem? Thanks

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