Pd-list September 2011

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GEM text examples
by Pagano, Patrick 21 Sep '11

21 Sep '11

Hello I am once again soliciting some fun GEM patches that use text in any sort of way. I would love to see any helps or patches that deal with text inside of GEM Thanks in advance pp

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auto-completion with popup [was: 3 new gui-plugins]
by yvan volochine 21 Sep '11

21 Sep '11

hiho I got the popup thing working with auto-completion =) thanks to hc for the help and inspiration http://puredata.info/community/projects/software/auto-completion-plugin enjoy ! as usual, bug reports are welcome (I didn't test the popup on osx/win...) cheers, _y

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stop sample playback when phasor~ reset?
by James Dunn 21 Sep '11

21 Sep '11

Hi list, I'm controlling tabread4~ with a phasor~ but don't want my samples to loop (most of the time). What's the best way to detect a phasor~'s reset? ( in both directions - I'm playing the samples forwards and backwards). I've looked at edge~ and samphold~ triggered by a bang~ but it seems quite tricky. thanks James

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declare path OSX; and space
by Christian Haines 21 Sep '11

21 Sep '11

Hi I'd hadn't seen a reply on either of these so thought I would send my solution (having just worked it out!). The issue with declare, -stdpath and OSX is that declare takes the path from the executable inside the Pd application (folder) (right click how package contents > contents > MacOS - so when trying to a position relative using you need go up a couple of directories. e.g. declare -stdpath ../../../..//Users/someuser/Documents/OtherLocation This gets you back from Pd in the applications folder to the user folder. Also, I haven't seen a solution but would be curious to find out if anyone knew of a solution to path name spaces with declare in OSX. Best wishes Begin forwarded message: > From: Derek Holzer <derek(a)umatic.nl> > Date: 25 June 2010 8:22:53 PM ACST > To: "courrier(a)labastie.org" <courrier(a)labastie.org>, pd-list <PD-list(a)iem.at> > Subject: Re: [PD] pd path on OSX > > http://en.flossmanuals.net/PureData/AdvancedConfig > > On 6/24/10 8:46 PM, courrier(a)labastie.org wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Would someone tell me how to modify pd-path on OSX ? >> When I am on Application folder, I can't get folders activated. >> So I would like to modify .pdrc but I can't find it on mac OSX... >> I use Pd version 0.41.4-extended. > > > -- > ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: > ---Oblique Strategy # 29: > "Change nothing and continue with immaculate consistency" > > Begin forwarded message: > From: Roman Haefeli <reduzierer(a)yahoo.de> > Date: 30 September 2007 8:31:45 AM ACST > To: pd(a)mild.ch > Cc: PD list <pd-list(a)iem.at> > Subject: Re: [PD] [declare] won't load standard pathes on osx > Reply-To: reduzierer(a)yahoo.de > > On Tue, 2007-09-18 at 01:08 +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote: >> On Mon, 2007-09-17 at 22:35 +0200, Enrique Erne wrote: >>> hi >>> >>> i try to load hp1~.pd from iemabs with Pd version 0.40-2 compiled for Macintosh >>> OSX 10.3 >>> >>> here it is: >>> /Applications/Pd-0.40-2.app/Contents/Resources/extra/iemabs >>> >>> that's the test-patch: >>> [declare -stdpath ../extra/iemabs] >> >> it's probably necessary to add, that this same [declare] works on >> windows and linux (tested was alsways with 0.40.2, iemabs was always in >> <pdpath>/extra). >> >> though, the flags -stdlib and -path seem to work as well on osx, but not >> -stdpath for some reason. >> >> can anyone on osx please test/confirm that? > > would be cool to hear anything about it. is [declare] supposed to work > the same on osx as on linux and windows? (i guess so.. ) > > roman > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de > > > -- Christian Haines Lecturer / Co-Director Electronic Music Unit Elder Conservatorium of Music University of Adelaide South Australia 5005 Ph: +61 8 8303 3799 Fax: +61 8 8303 4423 Email: christian.haines(a)adelaide.edu.au Web: http://emu.adelaide.edu.au http://music.adelaide.edu.au Study: http://emu.adelaide.edu.au/study/ Location: Schulz Building, Level 5 , 5.13 ----------------------------------------------------------- CRICOS Provider Number 00123M ----------------------------------------------------------- This email message is intended only for the addressee(s) and contains information that may be confidential and/or copyright. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender by reply email and immediately delete this email. Use, disclosure or reproduction of this email by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) is strictly prohibited. No representation is made that this email or any attachments are free of viruses. Virus scanning is recommended and is the responsibility of the recipient.

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Selecting random wavefile from folder without knowing the names
by abel.jerome＠free.fr 21 Sep '11

21 Sep '11

Few months ago, I made this abstraction with [hcs/folder_list]: http://abel.jerome.free.fr/pd/file/fileRandom.zip If it helps. Jerome

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pd-ext 0.43: main objects don't load
by João Pais 20 Sep '11

20 Sep '11

Hi, I was trying 0.43-ext nightly build (windows). When starting the audiotest patch even the main objects don't load (only atoms). Does anyone know what has to be done so that the vanilla library gets loaded? Joao

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Fwd: Re: Targeting specific content with HttpGet
by Martin Peach 20 Sep '11

20 Sep '11

I forgot to reply to the list as well: On 2011-09-20 15:25, Alvin Google wrote: > On 2011-09-20 14:58, Martin Peach wrote: >> On 2011-09-20 01:22, Alvin Google wrote: >>> I have been interested in using streaming information in a pd patch. I >>> have taken a look at the simplewebclient and httpget patches listed >>> here >>> in the thread, but I can not figure out how to target specific >>> tables or >>> div class information from a web page. >>> >>> I assume that you have to download the entire page. >>> Can you parse for specific information : name of content and it's >>> value? >>> >> >> Yes you get the whole content-length. >> You can either operate on a list or a table. I prefer to load >> everything into a large table and parse that. >> I think pdlua would be ideal for parsing text, but so far I made my >> own abstractions from Pd objects to extract numbers from particular >> locations in lists. The problem with converting things to symbols is >> that the symbol table can get filled with mostly junk symbols. >> You can go line by line by scanning for 10, the ASCII line feed >> character. >> >> Martin >> > Thanks for your reply Martin. > I am not sure how to go about this yet, but it sounds like one has to > look through data line by line. > Can you look for specific strings on a webpage like the contents of a > specific table tag? [mrpeach/tabfind] can be used to find a string in a table. > Maybe there is another way to approach this? > There are probably many ways to do it. They are all a bit tedious with Pd though. I attach a copy of a patch I use. Maybe it will help. Martin

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Re: [PD] [PD-dev] removing path and libs from Pd-extended preferences GUI
by Charles Henry 20 Sep '11

20 Sep '11

Sorry-I'm a bit confused as to the difference between libs and paths, at the moment. Here's a situation where I like to have the path dialog: I download an archive of abstractions (like RJDJ), and I'd like to be able to put them anywhere, so if there's a couple different versions, I can just tell them apart from folders. With the path dialog, I can just right away see what set of abstractions are on the path, change it, apply, and get to work. How would I accomplish the same thing without it? Chuck On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans(a)at.or.at> wrote: > > Please give an example of how this would make this more confusing. My > experience is the exact opposite and it is exactly this problem that > leads me to want to remove those preferences. The are a big source of > confusion and problems, and most Pd-extended users do not use them. I > am not proposing removing them from Pd-vanilla, only Pd-extended. I > think globally loading libraries is a broken idea. > > If you remember in the days before Pd-extended, patches that relied on > external libraries were mostly unsharable. It could take a long time to > track down all the dependencies, etc. and you couldn't be sure which > [wrap], [split], [prepend], [scale], etc. the patch needed. Having the > configuration in the patch means at worst you know what you need to get > it running. > > At this point I've taught Pd to 10 year olds, high school kids, college > kids, masters students, and all sorts of people in workshops, college > courses, and patching circles. I also answer a lot of questions on > email, on forums, and on IRC. It is from this experience that I am > coming from on this issue. I have no desire to control people, I do > have a strong desire to make Pd-extended very user friendly to newbies > and a excellent editing experience for advanced users. > > And those that like the Pd-vanilla way are welcome to use it, > Pd-extended will remain compatible with patches from Pd-vanilla as long > as I work on it. Of course, it is not possible to maintain 100% > compatibility when going from Pd-extended to Pd-vanilla since extended > includes many more objects. There is also pd-l2ork, desiredata, etc. > for those who want different approaches. > > .hc > > On Tue, 2011-09-20 at 13:02 +0100, Andy Farnell wrote: >> >> Whenever I see the words "this would _make_ people"... >> alarm bells start ringing for me. >> >> Yes, the proposed behaviour is perfectly correct, logical, >> and consistent. And utterly the wrong thing to do IMHO. >> >> It would frighten off newcomers and disorientate students. >> >> It's why we create the cushion of fairy stories >> for kids, to soften the harsh realities of the >> _actual_ world. Later on you learn that there isn't >> a magic library fairy that loads everything, but it >> helps you cope with the first steps. >> >> If anybody made PD that broken out of the box it >> would require lots of work to fix in order to make >> it fit to teach with again. >> >> >> >> > On 2011-09-19 19:32, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >> > > >> > > Hey Miller, >> > > >> > > I actually think this would make switching between vanilla and extended >> > > easier because it would make people use [import] or [declare] to load >> > > libs, then when using vanilla, you'll know which libraries the patch >> > > needs. Can you think of examples where it would make things more >> > > difficult? >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-dev mailing list > Pd-dev(a)iem.at > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev >

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Fwd: UKI open call
by João Pais 20 Sep '11

20 Sep '11

For anyone around Berlin end of October: ------- Forwarded message ------- From: "shu lea cheang" <shulea(a)earthlink.net> To: "JoÃ£o Pais" <jmmmpais(a)googlemail.com> Cc: Subject: UKI open call Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 09:48:08 +0200 U.K.I. live performance LIVE CODE LIVE SPAM (70:00) Special closing night performance at Berlin Porn Film Festival Midnight, October 30, Berghain, Berlin http://www.vimeo.com/28998784 OPEN CALL for NOISE sound artists U.K.I. live performance invites local (Berlin based) sound artists of noise sound /free software genre to join us on a LIVE CODE LIVE SPAM viral trip!!! As a sequel to Shu Lea Cheang's cyberpunk cult movie I.K.U. , the replicants of U.K.I. trade sex for codes, code sexing code in noise blast out, a virus is born and multiplied to eventually infect the city, the world. We call for noise sound artists to join the non-stop hyper-jam session collective performance. Plug in with own laptops & sound devices, We aim for orgasmic high as we set Berlin under UKI viral attack!! For more information: Berlin Porn Film Festival http://www.pornfilmfestivalberlin.de Berghain, Berlin http://www.berghain.de/ UKI http://www.u-k-i.co read about scenario/performance http://www.u-k-i.co/performance/html/performance.html I.KU. as a cyberpunk cult film http://www.i-k-u.com http://www.cyberpunkreview.com/movie/decade/2000-2009/iku/ Viral patch performance excerpts (5:00) http://vimeo.com/17478343 Shu Lea Cheang http://www.mauvaiscontact.info write to Shu Lea Cheang Shulea(a)earthlink.net with your website/sample work

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Targeting specific content with HttpGet
by Alvin Google 20 Sep '11

20 Sep '11

I have been interested in using streaming information in a pd patch. I have taken a look at the simplewebclient and httpget patches listed here in the thread, but I can not figure out how to target specific tables or div class information from a web page. I assume that you have to download the entire page. Can you parse for specific information : name of content and it's value? Any pointers would be appreciated. Alvin

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