Pd-list May 2011

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[PD-announce] Registration for the 2011 Ambisonics Symposium is now open.
by Erika Olsen 17 May '11

17 May '11

The registration for the 2011 Ambisonics Symposium is now open. We have managed to find a low-cost way of handling the registration via Kentucky's Project Lead The Way. Registration Fee is $50. We have also organized a tour to two of the Bluegrass Region's main sights, the Woodford Reserve Bourbon Distillery and a dinner and tour at historic Shaker Village. Registration for the tour is optional and is $120, which includes tasting of the local cuisine and beer and spirits. Please register here: http://www.vis.uky.edu/ambisonics2011/registration.php Looking forward meeting you in the beautiful Bluegrass, Jens Hannemann -- Dr.-Ing. Jens Hannemann --- j.hannemann(a)ieee.org<mailto:j.hannemann@ieee.org> --- GPG Key Available University of Kentucky -- Dept. of Electrical and Computer Engineering Center for Visualization and Virtual Environments _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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loading patches very slow in linux
by Matteo Sisti Sette 17 May '11

17 May '11

Hi, I often work with huge patches, and I'm noticing that loading the same patch in Linux takes at least 10 times (this is not an exageration) the time it takes in Windows, though the linux box I'm testing on has better hardware. I know this is a very generic question but does perhaps anybody know where the bottleneck may be and why such a big difference between the two platforms (despite the popular belief that everything is usually faster in linux)? thanks m.

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new Pd Tutorial in English
by Alexandre Porres 16 May '11

16 May '11

Hi folks, what's up? This all started with my pd classes in portuguese in Brazil, I then developed this tutorial that got kinda big. I'd show it to international friends around and they seemed interested, some told me about having a spanish version or french but I could only do it in english. For an workshop in Piksel last year I tried to translate it to english, could only finish it now. It's nice that it forced me to rewrite the whole thing (so I must have generated a whole new bunch set of errors) and now I have an old Pd tutorial in portuguese that I don't like anymore, I should rewrite it to portuguese now (maybe next year as I wasn't aware of all the hassle it is). I may have put myself into this infinite loop of writing and rewriting in the two languages, God help me... Anyway, I'm kinda sad I don't have a tutorial in portuguese that I like anymore. But the reason I did this is that I hope you people out there could give me some feedback on this thing. I'm sure there are tons of typos and spelling errors so forgive me and please let me know. People are usually excited about this tutorial here in Brazil but never quite warn me of BS I write, and I'm surprised everytime I review it as I can always find trouble. Anyway, most of this was a motivation of having a pretty nice document in portuguese, as pretty much everything else is in english. I probably wouldn't do it if I was teaching in english all the time. So some things are not much new, but I am proud of some other things, and I like the fact it tries to be quite extensive and all in one document, organized in folders that depend on previous patches. Oh, here's the link to it: https://sites.google.com/site/porres/Tut-Eng.zip Thanks Alex

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Sometimes I cannot select ALSA on Linux
by Matteo Sisti Sette 16 May '11

16 May '11

Hi, With Pd Vanilla 0.42.5 under Ubuntu, at random times, the following happens: - I open the "media" menu and select ALSA - I review (but don't change) the audio settings and click Apply and OK - This doesn't work: ALSA get not selected (if I open the media menu again it is not checked), and there is no sound. No matter how many times I repeat the procedure (without restarting pd) there's no way to get it to work. But if I close and reopen Pd, then most of the times it works. No error message appears in the console, but if I've run pd from the command line I can see this error in the terminal (by the way isn't it wrong that such a critical error isn't reflected in the console?): "" snd_pcm_open (input): Device or resource busy snd_pcm_open (output): Device or resource busy "" How comes that the resource is busy if I have no other application using it? And why is it busy sometimes and sometimes it isn't (without closing and opening any application, other than Pd, between retries)? And if restarting and retrying works, why doesn't just retrying work? (i.e. selecting ALSA again without restarting Pd)? Is there a way to have Pd use Pulse Audio? I know I can use Jack but I have to start the jack server etc; when I don't care too much about latency and the like, I would like to just have Pd's sound pass through Pulse Audio as everything else. Is that possible? How? thanks m.

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[PD-announce] PD (audio+code)--“eetz” new EP @ FIBRR RECORDS [NOISH]
by oskoff lovich 16 May '11

16 May '11

Hi all a new audio+code release salut! ------------------------------ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- *chaos audio teorie – extrange attractors–[from mathematical functions to organic jungle sounds]* ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- EP: one track 25 minutes + code (pure data) Release generated from the heretical use and the experimentation with the sonic possibilities of the iterative function “logistics” in a “complex number” versión [real+imaginary]. Inspirated but desviated from the research and work by “Elaine A. Walker” http://www.ziaspace.com/elaine/chaos/ChaosMelodyTheory.pdf f(xn+1) = 1 – rxn2 adding chaos to the chaos jumping from attractor to attractor eternal instability 3d Fractals modulate the temporal frequency of the iterations (Chaos PD external by Ben Bogart) Audio generators : I used [polywavesynth] a polyphonic synthesizer for Pure Data by Phil Stone http://www.pkstonemusic.com/polyWaveSynth.html and some other more simple oscilator, [nqsint] + FM-AM . After record some audio blocks using the code included. I edited and mixed them into Ardour. software : Pure Data + Ardour Linux: Ubuntu Karmic Koala ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Download Audio VBR MP3 31mb <http://www.archive.org/download/eetz_noish/eetz_noish.mp3> Download Audio WAV 256.6 mb<http://www.archive.org/download/eetz_noish/yupana_c_a_t_noish.wav> Download CODE (pureData)<http://noconventions.mobi/noish/download/yupana_Exploit_cat.zip> *:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::* FIBRR RECORDS <http://www.apo33.org/records/doku.php?id=virtual_records> noish [oscar martin] <http://noconventions.mobi/noish> *:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::* -- mEtaminaFreeNetRadio >> http://metaminafnr.hotglue.me/ >>>http://noconventions.mobi/noish _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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[PD-announce] NYC Patching Circle today, Sunday 5/15, 6-9pm
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 15 May '11

15 May '11

This announcement is late but the patching circle is right on time! Its the third Sunday of May today, so we're meeting at NYC Resistor tonight from 6-9pm. We also now have a mailing list for announcing the meeting each month: http://mailman.at.or.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nyc-patching-circle http://puredata.info/community/NYCPatchingCircle We spend enough time alone staring at our computers; we are proposing to work together. So often issues that arise when working can be solved with a quick two minute discussion that would take hours to solve alone. We have Dorkbot to see people's work, we have Share where anyone can play, we have workshops and universities to learn from. This is a meeting where we all can come to work. This is an informal gathering of patching and patchers (Pd, Max/MSP/ Jitter, and even vvvv, Eyesweb, Labview, etc.). Beginners and Experienced welcome. Open to everyone, students, the public, etc. Work on personal projects, professional projects, school projects, ask for help, help others, or just patch quietly to yourself, in a room full of other people patching patches and helping other people patch. Today, Sunday 5/15, 6-9pm Free! Directions ---------- NYC Resistor, http://www.nycresistor.com/ 87 3rd Avenue, (between Bergen and Dean) 4th Floor Brooklyn, NY 11217 Tel. +1.347.850.4872 or +1.347.586.9270 2/3/4/5/B/D/Q/N/R to Atlantic/Pacific LIRR to Atlantic Terminal F/G to Bergen _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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Re: [PD] Switch from PureData!
by Jonathan Wilkes 14 May '11

14 May '11

That would be excellent to hear about useful forgotten patches. In the meantime maybe I can hijack this thread with a practical question. Look at the supercollider and pure data example at the beginning of the following tutorial: http://en.flossmanuals.net/pure-data/ch002_graphical-programming/ Now it's perfectly fine that it shows one example that gives the strengths of supercollider and a completely different example for the strengths of pure data. But it certainly begs the question what each example would look like in the other enviroment. So: what's the simplest way to implement that supercollider example above using pure data? Using nqpoly? Dynamic patching? Is there a #many~ in GF? Etc. -Jonathan

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Re: [PD] pd-extended-0.43.1 win32
by Patrice Colet 13 May '11

13 May '11

if you want pd-extended working you have to follow those steps: get 2011-04-30 win32 release of pd-extended install launch cmd, the dos console cd "C:\Program Files (x86)\pd\bin" replace "Program Files (x86)" with folder where it has been installed start pd with the following command: pd -lib libdir -lib vanilla/list -lib vanilla and for saving those options go to File menu --> preferences --> audio settings and clic on Save all settings thats all so simple isn't it? ----- "João Pais" <jmmmpais(a)googlemail.com> a écrit : > this also happens on windows XP. I tried to go back the release days > to > see the last good one, but after too much pd-installing I quit. > > > hello, > > the latest build doesn't start, some changes in 0.43.1 seems to > brake > > everything, > > I have to terminate pd from task manager, > > this happens on windows vista, I haven't tried to build this release > yet. > > the 2011-04-30 release is still 0.43.0 and working good. > > > > > -- > Friedenstr. 58 > 10249 Berlin (Deutschland) > Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162 6843570 > Studio +49 30 69509190 > jmmmpais(a)googlemail.com | skype: jmmmpjmmmp -- Patrice Colet

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multiple OSC messages in one udp packet?
by matteo sisti sette 13 May '11

13 May '11

Hi, (this is not directly related to another recent thread I started though it may seem so) Does the OSC standard (or to be more precise, the standard for OSC over UDP) allow to pack multiple OSC messages into a single UDP packet? If so, is there any chance that [packosc] and/or [udpsend] do so "behind the scene" (i.e. without explicitly asking them to do so) when you send them many messages in 0 or little logical time? (And if ,in turn, so, is there a way to avoid it?) I ask this because I am sending OSC messages from Pd to TouchOSC (on an iPad) and when I send it multiple messages in 0 logical time (even just 3 or 4 messages at a time, not dozens), TouchOSC almost systematically loses many of them. This is definitely not the network losing udp packets (or it would be a very unlikely coincidence) since this is happening _only_ with the osc messages i send to the iPad, and though I suspect it is a bug in the TouchOSC software, I was wondering if this may be because of (unwantedly) bundling multiple osc messages per udp packet (and touchOSC not supporting it)....... Thanks in advance m. -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistisette(a)gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com

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Re: [PD] pd-extended-0.43.1 win32
by Patrice Colet 13 May '11

13 May '11

ok, thank you for paying attention, I'm trying now to build trunk on mingw, and I have some questions to ask about that: 1° how pd-extended is built on win32? 2° why using -DMSW flag while _WIN32 definition works without adding it in CFLAGS? I'm replacing all lines #define MSW with #define _WIN32 in all files from pd/src ----- "João Pais" <jmmmpais(a)googlemail.com> a écrit : > this also happens on windows XP. I tried to go back the release days > to > see the last good one, but after too much pd-installing I quit. > > > hello, > > the latest build doesn't start, some changes in 0.43.1 seems to > brake > > everything, > > I have to terminate pd from task manager, > > this happens on windows vista, I haven't tried to build this release > yet. > > the 2011-04-30 release is still 0.43.0 and working good. > > > > > -- > Friedenstr. 58 > 10249 Berlin (Deutschland) > Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162 6843570 > Studio +49 30 69509190 > jmmmpais(a)googlemail.com | skype: jmmmpjmmmp -- Patrice Colet

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