Pd-list October 2011

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Typewriter effect
by Antonio Roberts 03 Nov '11

03 Nov '11

Is there a way to get a typewriter effect using pd i.e. have letters appear one character at a time? I was thinking I could send the text to [text2d] using [drip] but that just displays one character/word at a time. Cheers, Ant -- 07875 006 245 antonio(a)hellocatfood.com ============================ http://www.hellocatfood.com ============================

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very compressed chip sounds
by Chris McCormick 03 Nov '11

03 Nov '11

<http://countercomplex.blogspot.com/2011/10/algorithmic-symphonies-from-one-…> Surely we can do stuff like this in Pd? Smallest Pd patch that makes an interesting tune? Chris. ------------------- http://mccormick.cx

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New versions of pd-l2ork now available on git
by Ivica Ico Bukvic 02 Nov '11

02 Nov '11

All, Pd-L2ork is now available both as a tarball and via git: http://l2ork.music.vt.edu/main/?page_id=56 https://github.com/pd-l2ork/ Testers/contributors are as always most appreciated. NB: Pd-l2ork is currently Linux-only although this may change down the road. Some of the recent changes include: 2011-10-25 *Fixed a monster segfault bug that occurred when using toggling graph-on-parent and cut in succession (usually in combination with undo/redo). 2011-10-24 *Added undo/redo for creating new objects 2011-10-22 *Implemented universal copy/paste 2011-10-21 *Fixed gop enable/disable segfault (when doing so on an empty canvas) *Added undo for the canvas properties 2011-08-24 *Fixed gop redrawing issue when passed coords message via script *Fixed pack not converting null lists into bangs Coming up soon: *graph-on-parent enable/disable does not activate undo/redo on the parent window (or the gop-ed patch unless it is open) *Infinite undo *Ability to draw red GOP rectangle *Universal copy/paste should also resize the canvas as per original script? *Consider making hslider and vslider capable of doing int data Cheers! Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A. Composition, Music Technology Director, DISIS Interactive Sound & Intermedia Studio Director, L2Ork Linux Laptop Orchestra Assistant Director, CCTAD Virginia Tech Dept. of Music - 0240 Blacksburg, VA 24061 (540) 231-6139 (540) 231-5034 (fax) ico(a)vt.edu http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/bukvic/

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OT: Poll: Csounds or SuperCollider or Chuck
by Epic Jefferson 01 Nov '11

01 Nov '11

After the recent post about CsoundforLive, it resparked my interest in trying out one of the text based audio synthesis programs. Since it seems like a very steep learning curve to start learning any of these(Csounds, SuperCollider or Chuck) I just wanted to see if anyone here has had any experience with any of these and what your verdict was. I'd like to start a sort of opinion poll: 1. How do they compare against each other? 2. How do they match up to Pd for your needs? 3. What sort of things can be achieved in these programs that can't be achieved in Pd, if any? -- www.epicjefferson.com www.avmachinists.org Puerto Rico based Art Collective/ Non-Profit Org

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pd on mini devices
by i go bananas 01 Nov '11

01 Nov '11

(this is a duplicate post i did on the forum, but want to see if i can get help here) is there someone here doing pd on mini devices yet? i want something with low latency, audio output at least, but audio in/out even better.. the ability to connect some sort of sensors or controllers (even really basic stuff) basically, i want to put pd in a guitar pedal. any help? cheap would be best, but i have a small budget i could use if a good option is not bargain basement. i must also mention that i'm really not good at soldering, and my coding ability in anything other than PD is pretty shocking. what options are there? i have heard of beagle board, does that work?

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RjDj - Accessing RjDj server
by tesia kosmalski 01 Nov '11

01 Nov '11

So why is it taking a small miracle for my iPod and iPhone to hit the RjDj servers via Safari? All OS's, Apps, RjzServer versions are up to date...and I've tried in 3 different wireless environments. Set up worked like a charm 6 months ago. Thanks

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Two RjDj questions
by Joe Newlin 31 Oct '11

31 Oct '11

Hi Frank, I am trying to re-work some of my patches using rjlib so that I can share them with the world more easily. In one, I am using the [moog~] filter. What rjlib object would most closely approximate this? Also, I'm having trouble with some of the synths (like s_chip & s_czz). I was expecting to send a note/velocity pair to inlet 0 and get sound from the outlet~. That's not happening and looking inside the abstractions didn't help me understand what was/wasn't happening. Am I missing something? Thanks, JN -- www.joenewlin.net www.twitter.com/joe_newlin

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only allow to pass 1 each 10
by ronni montoya 31 Oct '11

31 Oct '11

HI I have an abstraction generating numbers permanently , i have the output connected to a "Number", i would like to only let pass one value each 10 times it changes. I was wondering if there is a easy way of doing this in pd? Or should i build a mechanism with spigots and metronome? thanks Ronny

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Re: [PD] GEM 0.93.1 crashing on Windows 7 64-bit
by Joe Newlin 31 Oct '11

31 Oct '11

Thanks, that stopped Pd/GEM from crashing. Now, I am getting the following error message: error: [pix_image]: failed to load image This is reproducible using the [pix_image] help file and attempting to load a .JPG through the bang>openpanel method. -JN On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 3:16 AM, Pierre-Olivier Boulant <po.boulant(a)free.fr>wrote: > Hi, > > In the GEM folder if you have gem_imageMAGICK.dll then trash it, move it > out or Pd or rename it. It's the one causing you grief. > > Cheers > Pierre-Olivier > > > > On 30/10/2011 07:41, Joe Newlin wrote: > > With Pd-extended 0.42.5 and GEM 0.93.1. I have pthreadVC.dll in the /bin/ > directory. > > The following helpfiles, included with GEM, cause pd to crash: > > pix_texture-help.pd > pix_tIIR-help.pd > pix_threshold-help.pd > pix_texture-help.pd > > There are probably more, but I haven't checked because there is only so > much sadness I can handle in one night. > > Pd crashes when trying to open the files by: > *starting pd and navigating to the patches from the File menu > *starting pd and trying to open the patches through the help browser > *starting pd, creating a new patch, creating the object - e.g. > [pix_texture] - and then right-clicking the object to open the help file > * double-clicking the file in explorer. > > -- > www.joenewlin.net > www.twitter.com/joe_newlin > > > -- > > > ~ Pierre-Olivier Boulant ~ > -o- www.puffskydd.net -o- > ~ www.flickr.com/pob31/sets ~ > -o- www.lepixophone.net -o- > > > -- www.joenewlin.net www.twitter.com/joe_newlin

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PDGST - no pix_gst2pix ... and hello
by x.garnier 31 Oct '11

31 Oct '11

Hello you all, that's my first mail on the list so I'd like to send greetings to everybody. I've read a lot of topics on installing pdgst on mac OS and since I still have some problems after many hours of work, I've decided to expose my "little" story. The message below is extracted from a mp to Iohannes before thinking of that list... thank you for those interested in my story (and by the way in my problems ;)) Message : Good evening, I'm from Poitiers (France) and I play doublebass. Thanks to the support of "Le Lieux Multiple" in Poitiers (I guess you know this place..., otherwise, this place knows you !), I'm working on an audio/video project aimed at modifying IP webcams videos with acoustic and analog music. In order to do that, I first contact Sevy (Yves Degoyon) that helps me find a possible solution with PdP... However, studying the question a bit more and as I've allready worked with Gem and created interactions sound/image (with fiddle~ and env~ basically) with downloaded videos, I'm very interested in using your pdgst elements (I'm right now studying your .pdf...) It seems to me that the pix_gst2pix should be the key element for this project... Problem : the object is not recognized by PD (boxed with red dots). ... And this is where the installation (long!) story comes in... I've read this thread from Nicolas Montgermont entirely : http://markmail.org/message/rui7ffvbu6eduejq#query:+page:1+mid:a5pavmv3uren… and it helped me a lot. Indeed, I'm on Mac OS 10.6.8 and I had problems almost at each steps (old version of Xcode, fink outdated, finkcommander set wrongly, gstreamer-0.10 that needed unstable packages I couldn't see, problem with usr/local and dependencies, problem with libraries and architecture x86_64, paths problems...) that I did know nothing about and that I somehow solved thanks to internet posts... and many many hours later (surely because of my "newbieism" !) I reached that step : -------------------------- MacBook-Pro-de-Xavier-Garnier:src musique$ make PD_SRC=/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/include GEM_SRC=/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/include EXT=pd_darwin SYSTEMCFLAGS="-fPIC" SYSTEMLDFLAGS="-bundle -undefined dynamic_lookup" gcc -g -O2 -fPIC -DPD -I/sw/include/gstreamer-0.10 -I/sw/include/glib-2.0 -I/sw/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/sw/include/libxml2 -I/sw/include -DPDGST_PLUGIN -I/sw/include/gstreamer-0.10 -I/sw/include/glib-2.0 -I/sw/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/sw/include/libxml2 -I/sw/include -I/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/include -I../include -o pdgst.o -c pdgst.c pdgst.c:18:2: warning: #warning add docs gcc -g -O2 -fPIC -DPD -I/sw/include/gstreamer-0.10 -I/sw/include/glib-2.0 -I/sw/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/sw/include/libxml2 -I/sw/include -DPDGST_PLUGIN -I/sw/include/gstreamer-0.10 -I/sw/include/glib-2.0 -I/sw/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/sw/include/libxml2 -I/sw/include -I/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/include -I../include -o pdgst_base.o -c pdgst_base.c pdgst_base.c:25:2: warning: #warning add docs gcc -g -O2 -fPIC -DPD -I/sw/include/gstreamer-0.10 -I/sw/include/glib-2.0 -I/sw/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/sw/include/libxml2 -I/sw/include -DPDGST_PLUGIN -I/sw/include/gstreamer-0.10 -I/sw/include/glib-2.0 -I/sw/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/sw/include/libxml2 -I/sw/include -I/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/include -I../include -o pdgst_capsfilter.o -c pdgst_capsfilter.c pdgst_capsfilter.c:32:2: warning: #warning add docs gcc -g -O2 -fPIC -DPD -I/sw/include/gstreamer-0.10 -I/sw/include/glib-2.0 -I/sw/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/sw/include/libxml2 -I/sw/include -DPDGST_PLUGIN -I/sw/include/gstreamer-0.10 -I/sw/include/glib-2.0 -I/sw/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/sw/include/libxml2 -I/sw/include -I/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/include -I../include -o pdgst_element.o -c pdgst_element.c pdgst_element.c:227:2: warning: #warning _info hack gcc -g -O2 -fPIC -DPD -I/sw/include/gstreamer-0.10 -I/sw/include/glib-2.0 -I/sw/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/sw/include/libxml2 -I/sw/include -DPDGST_PLUGIN -I/sw/include/gstreamer-0.10 -I/sw/include/glib-2.0 -I/sw/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/sw/include/libxml2 -I/sw/include -I/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/include -I../include -o properties.o -c properties.c gcc -g -O2 -fPIC -DPD -I/sw/include/gstreamer-0.10 -I/sw/include/glib-2.0 -I/sw/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/sw/include/libxml2 -I/sw/include -DPDGST_PLUGIN -I/sw/include/gstreamer-0.10 -I/sw/include/glib-2.0 -I/sw/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/sw/include/libxml2 -I/sw/include -I/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/include -I../include -o setup.o -c setup.c gcc -bundle -undefined dynamic_lookup -lc -lm -L/sw/lib -lgstreamer-0.10 -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 -lgthread-2.0 -lxml2 -lglib-2.0 -lintl -lgstapp-0.10 -lgstaudio-0.10 -L/sw/lib -lgstreamer-0.10 -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 -lgthread-2.0 -lxml2 -lglib-2.0 -lintl -o pdgst.pd_darwin audio/pdgst_adc~.o audio/pdgst_dac~.o gvalue.o loop.o pdgst.o pdgst_base.o pdgst_capsfilter.o pdgst_element.o properties.o setup.o ------------------------- Looked like this time everything was ok ! After adding some linked to PD path preferences I was able to open pdgst-test.pd and all the boxes looked OK : when I tick the box, it open X11 and says in the console : ------------- verbose( 1):remove all elements verbose( 1):deregister verbose( 1):element 13a44c0 not in bin verbose( 1):register verbose( 1):connect xxx1: __gst connect videotestsrc3 xxx0: __gst connect autovideosink2 --------------- I have to admit that for the moment I don't know if it's OK or not... As you've probably understood I'm looking for a quite specific function of your giganstic work : catching a video stream from an (possibly random) IP webcam, transform it as a Gem image, that we will modify with improvised music. However, when I open your "Graal for me" patch : gst2pix.pd, one box is red... pix_gst2pix rgba. (!) Looking at my pdgst/src/gem folder I've noticed that I had no .o nor .c files, only .h and .ccp. I don't know much about compiling but I imagine that the "Make" I've done in /src didn't worked for gem. I then tried to type "make" in pdgst/src/gem (sorry if it's stupid !) and here's what I get : ---------- MacBook-Pro-de-Xavier-Garnier:gem musique$ makeg++ -c -Wall -O2 -fPIC -ffast-math -mmmx -DPDGST_PLUGIN -I/sw/include/gstreamer-0.10 -I/sw/include/glib-2.0 -I/sw/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/sw/include/libxml2 -I/sw/include -I../../../../pd/src -I../../../Gem/src -I. -I../../include/ -o "pix_gst2pix.o" -c "pix_gst2pix.cpp" pix_gst2pix.cpp:147:2: warning: #warning LATER store the original pixblock in render() and restore it here pix_gst2pix.cpp: In member function ‘virtual void pix_gst2pix::render(GemState*)’: pix_gst2pix.cpp:141: error: ‘class GemState’ has no member named ‘set’ pix_gst2pix.cpp:141: error: ‘_pix’ is not a member of ‘GemState’ pix_gst2pix.cpp: In member function ‘virtual void pix_gst2pix::postrender(GemState*)’: pix_gst2pix.cpp:148: error: ‘class GemState’ has no member named ‘set’ pix_gst2pix.cpp:148: error: ‘_PIX’ is not a member of ‘GemState’ ../../include/pdgst/pdgst.h: At global scope: ../../include/pdgst/pdgst.h:98: warning: ‘pdgst_version’ defined but not used make: *** [pix_gst2pix.o] Error 1 ---------- I tried to enter pix_gst2pix.ccp and look at this ligne 141 : " state->set(GemState::_PIX, &m_pix);" but it is definitely out of my knowledge range... then, If you could help me make this function work, that would be wonderful ! I'm sorry for telling you the whole story but It was also the occasion to thank you for your work and maybe receive some advise from you about the project (possible ? difficult ? not ambitious enough ? etc.) Thanks so much again, Xavier

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Pd-list October 2011