Pd-list November 2010

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Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch)
by Ivica Ico Bukvic 22 Nov '10

22 Nov '10

Ugh, forgot to mention another critical thing--this version requires tcl/tl 8.5 or higher. Best wishes, Ico Ivica Ico Bukvic <ico(a)vt.edu> wrote: > >> Also, forgot to mention in my original email this version AFAIK fixes >> all graph-on-parent bugs. > >Just remembered a few more that some of you might find useful: > >*send to back/bring to front right-click menu for those of you >interested in building more complex UIs >*auto-update of scrollbars when typing/resizing objects >*canvas always tries to fit the entire patch as best as it can (it is >not any more 0,0 coord-centric, however, so it will not reopen patches >the way they may have looked in the vanilla-version of pd) >*text editing has ctrl+home and ctrl+end traversal between >space-delimited words >*"select all" is context sensitive (so when editing an object select all >will select all its text rather than all objects on the canvas) >*select/cut/copy/paste is universal (works seamlessly across text fields >and canvas) >*commands are ignored in contexts where they have no purpose (e.g. >create an object shortcut invoked on the main canvas should have no >effect) >*improved accuracy of canvas reporting it has been changed > >Cheers! > >Best wishes, > >Ico > > >_______________________________________________ >Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list >UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

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tuio simulator
by GMX 22 Nov '10

22 Nov '10

Hello, I'm using the Tuio Simulator and I've a basic question cause I'm a beginner. How can I tell PD to do something like an if query. for example: I want to say if it is marker nr 1 do this colour. i know how to get the Marker ID (fid_get fid). would be cool if someone can help me :) And sorry I first sent this email to the announce mailing list. sorrrrry Thanks Cheers L

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Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch)
by Ivica Ico Bukvic 22 Nov '10

22 Nov '10

The front/back option works on as many selected objects as you like. Simply select objects you wish to be moved, right click, and then select the desired action. That said I do agree that it would be probably a good idea to also have a keyboard shortcut and place them in the menu. Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >One comment about bring to front/send to back: >* I think I'd rather see this as "Edit" menu options that work on >all selected objects, rather than per object. This would be more >useful for those situations where people are building complex GUIs. >(And if necessary it could have a keyboard shortcut.) >This would allow the right-click menu to retain its simplicity >of having only those three options that are of general use to the >user. (I think bring to front/send to back is a wonderful feature >but it's definitely way more specialized than getting help, >GUI properties, or opening a subpatch). > >One thing I'm noticing about the new connection icon: if I point the >mouse over an outlet and then move the mouse about 20-40 pixels to >the right, the connection icon remains even though it won't spawn a >wire if I click and drag. > >-Jonathan > >--- On Sun, 11/21/10, Ivica Ico Bukvic <ico(a)vt.edu> wrote: > >> From: Ivica Ico Bukvic <ico(a)vt.edu> >> Subject: Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch) >> To: Pd-list(a)iem.at >> Date: Sunday, November 21, 2010, 4:52 PM >> >> > Also, forgot to mention in my original email this >> version AFAIK fixes >> > all graph-on-parent bugs. >> >> Just remembered a few more that some of you might find >> useful: >> >> *send to back/bring to front right-click menu for those of >> you >> interested in building more complex UIs >> *auto-update of scrollbars when typing/resizing objects >> *canvas always tries to fit the entire patch as best as it >> can (it is >> not any more 0,0 coord-centric, however, so it will not >> reopen patches >> the way they may have looked in the vanilla-version of pd) >> *text editing has ctrl+home and ctrl+end traversal between >> space-delimited words >> *"select all" is context sensitive (so when editing an >> object select all >> will select all its text rather than all objects on the >> canvas) >> *select/cut/copy/paste is universal (works seamlessly >> across text fields >> and canvas) >> *commands are ignored in contexts where they have no >> purpose (e.g. >> create an object shortcut invoked on the main canvas should >> have no >> effect) >> *improved accuracy of canvas reporting it has been changed >> >> Cheers! >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Ico >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pd-list(a)iem.at >> mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> > > >

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[midiin] doesn't recognize SYSTEM COMMON or SYSTEM REAL TIME messages
by Ingo Scherzinger 22 Nov '10

22 Nov '10

Does anybody know how to receive SYSTEM COMMON or SYSTEM REAL TIME messages? The [midiin] object only outputs 0xF0 (sysex start), 0xF7 (sysex end) and 0xF6 (tune request). Anything else between 0xF0 and 0xFF is being ignored. [sysexin] doesn't do it either. I really need 0xFA and 0xFC ( = start / stop ) as well as 0xFE ( = active sensing ) to communicate with the standard transport buttons, etc. on normal keyboards. How would you sync to midi clock if 0xF8 ( = midi timing clock) is being ignored? Does anybody know how to get this to work? Is there any other object that can receive raw midi? Ingo

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Numpad decimal outputs wrong character
by Jonathan Wilkes 22 Nov '10

22 Nov '10

Hi, I'm setting up a new machine running Hardy. It has a Dell 106-key keyboard in which the decimal on the number pad works fine with everything (Ardour, Openoffice, Icecat, wish, etc.) _except_ Pd objects on a canvas like object box, iemGUIs, number/symbol/message box, etc. However, it does work in the Pd console, as well as Properties dialogues and any tk widgets like [entry]. When I click the decimal key, [key] outputs '127'. This is happening in 0.42-5 extended as well as Miller's 0.43-0test3. Any ideas on what's going on here? Thanks, Jonathan

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Re: [PD] Trying to track a ghost pdtk_canvas_getscroll call
by Ivica Ico Bukvic 22 Nov '10

22 Nov '10

Unfortunately I do not see myself migrating to the new version until it is as stable as the one we currently use. Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans(a)at.or.at> wrote: > >Before you invest too much time in that, you should know that that >stuff has changed a lot in 0.43, so its likely anything you did in >0.42 would not apply to 0.43 > >.hc > >On Nov 21, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: > >> Hi Mathieu, >> >> This is a great advice! However, when adding blargh() function from >> the >> gridflow.c inside the sys_vgui (s_inter.c) so that when the debug is >> on >> it outptus a trace for each call, it appears it only manages to do one >> level which is obviously the sys_vgui call itself. Why is it not >> able to >> trace further back? >> >> void blargh(void) { >> #ifdef MACOSX >> fprintf(stderr,"unhandled exception\n"); >> #else >> int i; >> void *array[25]; >> int nSize = backtrace(array, 25); >> char **symbols = backtrace_symbols(array, nSize); >> for (i=0; i<nSize; i++) fprintf(stderr,"%d: %s\n",i,symbols[i]); >> free(symbols); >> #endif >> } >> >> void sys_vgui(char *fmt, ...) >> { >> >> <snip> >> >> if (sys_debuglevel & DEBUG_MESSUP) { >> blargh(); >> fprintf(stderr, "%s", sys_guibuf + sys_guibufhead); >> } >> >> <snip> >> >> } >> > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >"A cellphone to me is just an opportunity to be irritated wherever you >are." - Linus Torvalds >

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Trying to track a ghost pdtk_canvas_getscroll call
by Ivica Ico Bukvic 22 Nov '10

22 Nov '10

Hi all, I have a real pickle in trying to debug Pd. Namely, when I grep-ed every single instance of pdtk_canvas_getscroll and commented it out, it still gets invoked somehow and I am at a loss how. I know it occurs as many times as there are objects selected that have been moved (so it is definitely per-object) The only thing I managed to isolate so far is the following code: g_editor.c void gobj_displace(t_gobj *x, t_glist *glist, int dx, int dy) { if (x->g_pd->c_wb && x->g_pd->c_wb->w_displacefn) (*x->g_pd->c_wb->w_displacefn)(x, glist, dx, dy); } I am however unable to decipher what function is exactly being called by (*x->g_pd->c_wb->w_displacefn). I only found in g_canvas.h definition of w_displacefn as part of _widgetbehavior struct but nowhere (except in iemgui objects) is it linked to anything I can actually understand. Where does this struct get initialized? Any help on this one would be most appreciated as that will put a stop on me pulling my hairs out :-) Best wishes, Ico

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Paris exhibition
by David Schaffer 21 Nov '10

21 Nov '10

Hi there, I'll be presenting Pd-based music pieces at galerie Michel Journiac in Paris from the 23rd of november to december 10. It's a work based on heavily processed field recordings I 've collected on a bush in rural France and it's inspired by the work of a photographer who will be presenting pictures in the same show. For those of you interested, you'll find the flyer in the attachments. Launch party is the 30th of november, feel free to drop by! David Schaffer http://www.flickr.com/photos/schafferdavid/ http://audioblog.arteradio.com/David_Schaffer/

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rvbap.pd_linux: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32 Error
by Christoph Kuhr 21 Nov '10

21 Nov '10

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by Thomas Thiery via LinkedIn 21 Nov '10

21 Nov '10

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