Pd-list January 2010

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puredata forum
by yann 16 Jan '10

16 Jan '10

hi, i use the pd forum at puredate.hurleur.com for some time. since a couple of days i always get the message below if i try to access the site. on the irc channel i was told that the sites was working. does somebody experience the same or has an idea what this means? could my computer by some reason be blocked from access? i deleted all cookies and cache but still doesn't work. i can ping hurleur.com. greets yann An error was encountered Error: Unable to connect to MySQL server. MySQL reported: AccÃšs refusÃ© pour l'utilisateur: 'hurleurcom'@'@n7.mutu.sivit.org' (mot de passe: OUI).

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folders for abstractions
by Ignacio Lois 16 Jan '10

16 Jan '10

Hello everyone, I'm sort of a newbie to pd, and this is my first question here: Is there a way to have my abstractions in a separate folder than the one with the patches that use them? I'd like to have a subfolder with those, like a toolbox of sorts. Thanks!

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Re: [PD] buffer overflow with pd-hid
by Willy 15 Jan '10

15 Jan '10

Willy wrote: > Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >> >> Which device are you opening? What are the perms on that device? I >> don't know if this is related to the problems people were having with >> recent Debian/Ubuntu versions, where the system locked access to the >> devices. >> >> .hc >> >> On Jan 14, 2010, at 1:36 PM, Willy wrote: >> >>> I have this message when i open and start a device. In root and user. >>> >>> *** buffer overflow detected ***: pd terminated >>> ======= Backtrace: ========= >>> /lib/libc.so.6(__fortify_fail+0x4e)[0xb760289e] >>> /lib/libc.so.6(+0xe57da)[0xb76007da] >>> /lib/libc.so.6(__strcpy_chk+0x44)[0xb75ffac4] >>> /usr/lib/pd/extra/hid/hid.pd_linux(hid_get_events+0x60)[0xb77be380] >>> [0xb75a6] >>> ======= Memory map: ======== >>> 08048000-0815e000 r-xp 00000000 08:05 1281956 /usr/bin/pd >>> 0815e000-0815f000 r--p 00115000 08:05 1281956 /usr/bin/pd >>> 0815f000-08161000 rw-p 00116000 08:05 1281956 /usr/bin/pd >>> 08161000-082af000 rw-p 00000000 00:00 0 [heap] >>> b739e000-b739f000 ---p 00000000 00:00 0 >>> b739f000-b7421000 rw-p 00000000 00:00 0 >>> b7421000-b742d000 r-xp 00000000 08:05 222982 >>> /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.3.4/libgcc_s.so.1 >>> b742d000-b742e000 r--p 0000b000 08:05 222982 >>> /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.3.4/libgcc_s.so.1 >>> b742e000-b742f000 rw-p 0000c000 08:05 222982 >>> /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.3.4/libgcc_s.so.1 >>> b742f000-b7510000 r-xp 00000000 08:05 222980 >>> /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.3.4/libstdc++.so.6.0.10 >>> b7510000-b7514000 r--p 000e0000 08:05 222980 >>> /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.3.4/libstdc++.so.6.0.10 >>> b7514000-b7515000 rw-p 000e4000 08:05 222980 >>> /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.3.4/libstdc++.so.6.0.10 >>> b7515000-b751b000 rw-p 00000000 00:00 0 >>> b751b000-b765e000 r-xp 00000000 08:02 79785 /lib/libc-2.11.so >>> b765e000-b7660000 r--p 00143000 08:02 79785 /lib/libc-2.11.so >>> b7660000-b7661000 rw-p 00145000 08:02 79785 /lib/libc-2.11.so >>> b7661000-b7664000 rw-p 00000000 00:00 0 >>> b7664000-b7679000 r-xp 00000000 08:02 79821 >>> /lib/libpthread-2.11.so >>> b7679000-b767a000 r--p 00014000 08:02 79821 >>> /lib/libpthread-2.11.so >>> b767a000-b767b000 rw-p 00015000 08:02 79821 >>> /lib/libpthread-2.11.so >>> b767b000-b767e000 rw-p 00000000 00:00 0 >>> b767e000-b76a1000 r-xp 00000000 08:02 79848 /lib/libm-2.11.so >>> b76a1000-b76a2000 r--p 00022000 08:02 79848 /lib/libm-2.11.so >>> b76a2000-b76a3000 rw-p 00023000 08:02 79848 /lib/libm-2.11.so >>> b76a3000-b76a5000 r-xp 00000000 08:02 79772 /lib/libdl-2.11.so >>> b76a5000-b76a6000 r--p 00001000 08:02 79772 /lib/libdl-2.11.so >>> b76a6000-b76a7000 rw-p 00002000 08:02 79772 /lib/libdl-2.11.so >>> b76a7000-b76e5000 r-xp 00000000 08:05 2594037 >>> /usr/lib/libjack.so.0.1.0 >>> b76e5000-b76e6000 r--p 0003e000 08:05 2594037 >>> /usr/lib/libjack.so.0.1.0 >>> b76e6000-b76e7000 rw-p 0003f000 08:05 2594037 >>> /usr/lib/libjack.so.0.1.0 >>> b76e7000-b76ee000 r-xp 00000000 08:02 79846 /lib/librt-2.11.so >>> b76ee000-b76ef000 r--p 00006000 08:02 79846 /lib/librt-2.11.so >>> b76ef000-b76f0000 rw-p 00007000 08:02 79846 /lib/librt-2.11.so >>> b76f0000-b77a6000 r-xp 00000000 08:05 196365 >>> /usr/lib/libasound.so.2.0.0 >>> b77a6000-b77a9000 r--p 000b6000 08:05 196365 >>> /usr/lib/libasound.so.2.0.0 >>> b77a9000-b77aa000 rw-p 000b9000 08:05 196365 >>> /usr/lib/libasound.so.2.0.0 >>> b77b7000-b77c2000 r-xp 00000000 08:05 2449497 >>> /usr/lib/pd/extra/hid/hid.pd_linux >>> b77c2000-b77c3000 r--p 0000a000 08:05 2449497 >>> /usr/lib/pd/extra/hid/hid.pd_linux >>> b77c3000-b77c5000 rw-p 0000b000 08:05 2449497 >>> /usr/lib/pd/extra/hid/hid.pd_linux >>> b77c5000-b77c6000 rw-p 00000000 00:00 0 >>> b77c6000-b77e3000 r-xp 00000000 08:02 79835 /lib/ld-2.11.so >>> b77e3000-b77e4000 r--p 0001c000 08:02 79835 /lib/ld-2.11.so >>> b77e4000-b77e5000 rw-p 0001d000 08:02 79835 /lib/ld-2.11.so >>> bf8c8000-bf8dd000 rw-p 00000000 00:00 0 [stack] >>> ffffe000-fffff000 r-xp 00000000 00:00 0 [vdso] >>> Pd: signal 6 >>> pd_gui: pd process exited >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> >> >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> 'You people have such restrictive dress for women,Â’ she said, >> hobbling away in three inch heels and panty hose to finish out >> another pink-collar temp pool day. - Â“Hijab Scene #2", by Mohja Kahf >> >> > I use Pd version 0.42-5 on a Gentoo/GNU Linux with a 2.6.31.6-rt19 > kernel version. > The packet i use come from pd-overlay pd-hid-0.6. > > The device is > [hid] opened device 2 (/dev/input/event2): AT Translated Set 2 keyboard > > 2045 crw-r----- 1 root users 13, 66 2010-01-15 20:17 /dev/input/event2 > > and i am on the users group. > > I test it with root right, and take same. > > Thanks. >

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Re: [PD] Glitchy problems with gem...
by Marco Donnarumma 15 Jan '10

15 Jan '10

Hi James, I tried your patch on my machine (ubuntu 9.04 ashamed ATI radeon non-supported) and it's working fine. ATI is a crap. If you want to make serious 3d/video stuff in GEM on Linux or you change video card, or you go back 8.04. Meanwhile you may want to check this tips for a decent configuration of ATI cards: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Additional_options_for_the_radeon_driver https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver this helped me to not go crazy and throw my video card... but I still can't work properly. hope this helps.. Marco > What's more, with desktop effects enabled gem has a lot of weirdness! > The window border disappears, the lower half of the window displays a > garbled image, and it corrupts the rest of my desktop! So I disabled > desktop effects and am currently now having trouble with multiple > gemheads - please see the attached patch. If all 3 gemheads are enabled, > the first two seem to switch places very quickly (many times a second) - > they should be static and scroll with the key presses. However I've just > tested this on my desktop box running karmic with an nvidia card and it > seems fine! > > If anyone can help with any of these issues, please let me know - it's > very frustrating! > > thanks, > > James > -- Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net

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loading libs in pd-gui-rewrite: undefined symbol: s_float
by Roman Haefeli 15 Jan '10

15 Jan '10

Hi all Keen to explore the joys of the new pd-gui-rewrite, I would like to use also some externals with it. I'm having troubles compiling them, so that they successfully load. The issue appears at least with the following libraries: * zexy * maxlib * iemmatrix For each when loading i get something like: ./../extra/zexy/zexy.pd_linux: ./../extra/zexy/zexy.pd_linux: undefined symbol: s_float I tried to compile the newest version from svn against the sources of pd-gui-rewrite: cd /home/roman/pd-svn/externals/zexy/ svn update cd src make clean ./configure --with-pd=/home/roman/pd-svn/pd-gui-rewrite make sudo make install ln -s /usr/local/lib/pd/extra /home/roman/pd-svn/pd-gui-rewrite/extra I get the above message, when doing this in the pd-gui-rewrite/src directory: ./pd -lib zexy Since I almost haven't seen anyone posting such problems, it seems to me, that I'm doing something wrong, but what? Thanks in advance Roman

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pd & wii remote?
by rene beekman 15 Jan '10

15 Jan '10

hi, has anyone recently set up a wii remote with pd on either mac os x or windoze (or both?) ? have been trying to find info on how this is done, but all i found is somewhat older, relates to apps that are no longer available, etc. any pointers would be greatly appreciated rene

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Re: [PD] pd & wii remote?
by alvaro 15 Jan '10

15 Jan '10

I've been using this lib on Linux for ages and it works quite well: http://youngmusic.org/wiki/index.php/Wiilib It might (or not) compile on OSX greets alvaro

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[declare -stdpath] in pd-gui-rewrite
by Roman Haefeli 15 Jan '10

15 Jan '10

Hi all It seems, that [declare -stdpath] expands relative to '~/..' which equals to '/home'. Is that on purpose? If so, wouldn't it make more sense to remove the two dots, so that [declare -stdpath pd-externals/ext13] would expand to ~/pd-externals/ext13 ? Roman ___________________________________________________________ Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo! Mail: http://mail.yahoo.de

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Re: [PD] sys_gui outlet WAS: create folder implementation
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 15 Jan '10

15 Jan '10

On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 21:54 +0100, colet.patrice(a)free.fr wrote: > Selon Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans(a)at.or.at>: > > > > > > > > my msys build system is broken: > > > > > > make: cc: Command not found > > > make: *** [hcs/sys_gui] Error 127 > > > > make CC=gcc > > > > or even better > > export CC=gcc > > ok, but the linker doesn't find pd, normal I couldn't build pd: > > ~/pd-extended/pd/src > $ autoconf > /bin/m4: unrecognized option `--gnu' > Try `/bin/m4 --help' for more information. > autom4te-2.64: /bin/m4 failed with exit status: 1 The autoconf stuff doesn't work on MinGW fully, it would be great if it did. If you take that on, I'll help wherever I can. It does work on Cygwin. For MinGW you are better of doing: cd pd/src make -f makefile.mingw .hc

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Fedora 12 + gnome DPI + tcl/tk 8.5
by Matt Barber 15 Jan '10

15 Jan '10

Hello, I'm working in Pd extended using the planetccrma package, on Fedora 12, comparing behavior on two systems. I found on one system all the iemgui fonts appeared correct, but the normal object fonts appeared too small (which is the opposite of usual; normally the object fonts are correct and the iemgui fonts are too large), but only when logged in using GNOME -- fluxbox made things bad again. Also on a machine with the identical setup but a different monitor, even in gnome the iemguis appeared too large again. The only two differences between my machines were the X11 DPI setting (xdpyinfo | grep resolution gave me 75 on one and 96 on the other) and the gnome DPI settings under System->Preferences->Appearance->Fonts->Details->Resolution . As it turns out, if the gnome one is set to 72, the patches look the same as on other operating systems, except the object fonts are too small (I could fix this by editing the sizelist hack in pd.tk back to "normal"). Also, in fluxbox, the only way to get iemguis to look correct is if I run /usr/libexec/gnome-settings-daemon. I don't know tcl/tk well enough to know what all this means, but it seems the X11 DPI is meaningless to Pd, at least on my systems; I can make patches look normal (but fonts in other applications way too small) by setting the gnome DPI to 72, and resetting the sizelist hack. I hope this is a little useful. Matt

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