Pd-list December 2009

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Re: [PD] buiding_pd-extended
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 14 Dec '09

14 Dec '09

Try building the package like this: fink -mkK --build-as-nobody rebuild artoolkit Then look in /sw/src/fink.build/artoolkit* to see if Configure exists. .hc On Dec 14, 2009, at 4:34 PM, Cosmin S wrote: > yes I have it > > From: hans(a)at.or.at > To: horiacosmin(a)hotmail.com > Subject: Re: buiding_pd-extended > Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 13:32:44 -0500 > > > Do you have /usr/bin/printf? > > .hc > > On Dec 14, 2009, at 5:22 AM, Cosmin S wrote: > > Hey Hans, > Still same error (code 127). > Does it come from my machine? > > C. > > CC: pd-list(a)iem.kug.ac.at > From: hans(a)at.or.at > To: horiacosmin(a)hotmail.com > Subject: Re: buiding_pd-extended > Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 00:21:38 -0500 > > > I don't get the MD5 issue, your .patch file probably got corrupted. > Here the files are again in a zip: > > > Vous cherchez l'intégrale des clips de Michael Jackson ? Bing ! > Trouvez ! <artoolkit_error.txt> > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > All information should be free. - the hacker ethic > > > > > > Avec Internet Explorer, surfez en toute discrétion sur internet > Cliquez ici ! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Programs should be written for people to read, and only incidentally for machines to execute. - from Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs

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jack - [udpreceive] - audio engine "on"
by Wolfgang Jäger 14 Dec '09

14 Dec '09

Hello, I'm having some troubles using the object [udpreceive] with jack. I reduced my patch to make it traceable. 1. start jack 2. start pd working with jack as audio engine 3. "source patch": [toggle] -> [metro 1] -> [1( -> [udpsend] connect [udpsend] to localhost (127.0.0.1) on a highport (12350) 4. "destination patch": [udpreceive 12350] 5. turn on the audio engine After turning on the audio engine the GUI of the "destination patch" isn't updated any more (it still responds to the mouse but doesn't show the "result" of my clicking or patching). I'm not having the troubles working with ALSA and the load of my system is quite low (and I reproduced the problem on another machine): -------------------------------------- top - load average: 0.18, 0.12, 0.09 Cpu(s): 1.1%us, 1.3%sy, 0.0%ni, 97.1%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.5%si, 0.0%st Mem: 2050720k total, 862196k used, 1188524k free, 63984k buffers Swap: 4915880k total, 0k used, 4915880k free, 506104k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 14xxx xxx 20 0 19924 3864 2284 S 2 0.2 0:05.67 pd 14xxx xxx 20 0 32080 4976 4664 S 0 0.2 0:01.43 jackd -------------------------------------- Thanks for any help. Wolfgang

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Re: [PD] Motion Plus Data to be used with Puredata/OSC-Data-stream
by Luigi Rensinghoff 14 Dec '09

14 Dec '09

Hi Florian, Johannes an Mike after a little abstinence period i want to come back to my wiimote experiments and would like to know how far the integration of the MotionPlus into the pd-external went meanwhile. I setup up my laptop-environment and downloaded the latest stuff from svn. So my first step was trying to compile it on my ubuntu laptop and some questions aroused, which are based on the fact that i still dont know enough of c-programming and the compilation process. I looked into the makefile.org file and tried to set up all pathes according to my system and here is my first question: it is referring to this part of the makefile.org > PD_PATH=../../../pd > > # specify the path to CWiid: > #CWIID_PATH = $(ASCAPE_PATH)/usr/lib > LIBCWIID_PATH = "cwiid-svn/libcwiid" > > ###################################################### > # You shouldn't need to change anything beyond here! # > ###################################################### > > > ifdef PD_PATH > PD_INCLUDE := -I$(PD_PATH)/src > PD_EXTRA_PATH := ../../../../lib/libs > PD_DOC_PATH := ../../../../lib/pd-help > else > PD_INCLUDE := -I../../../pd/src > PD_EXTRA_PATH := /usr/local/lib/pd/extra > PD_DOC_PATH := /usr/local/lib/pd/doc > endif Since i have a somewhat unusual location of my files i ask my self if these pathes have to point to the locations where these files are (taken from wiimote.c file) > #include <stdio.h> > #include <unistd.h> > #include <sys/select.h> > #include <bluetooth/bluetooth.h> > #include <m_pd.h> > #include <math.h> > #include <cwiid.h> Is that Right ??? I am always confused whether the path means the location of the sources or the binaries..... I get the following error: in line 55: balance_cal hat unvollständigen Typen unbenutzter Parameter für "mesg", "timestamp" "ap" nicht deklariert für "CWIID_FLAG_MOTIONPLUS" i guess some pathes are not set right.... Another thing i never know wit the declaration of pathes... When do i use " " " quotes ?? like in PD_PATH="/opt/sw/pure-data/pd" or PD_PATH=/opt/sw/pure-data/pd do i need the first slash ?? why is somtime an "I" used and sometimes not ? ----------------------------------------------- i looked for the locations of my header files: #include <stdio.h> /usr/include #include <unistd.h> /usr/include/sys and /usr/include #include <sys/select.h> #include <bluetooth/bluetooth.h> #include <m_pd.h> /usr/include and /opt/sw/pure-data/pd/src #include <math.h> /usr/include #include <cwiid.h> /opt/sw/cwiid-0.6.00/libcwiid/ /usr/local/include So my makefile should look like that - i thought.... --- PD_PATH=/opt/sw/pure-data/pd LIBCWIID_PATH=/opt/sw/cwiid-0.6.00/libcwiid and further down: PD_INCLUDE := -I$(PD_PATH)/src PD_EXTRA_PATH:=/opt/sw/pure-data/pd/extra PD_DOC_PATH:=/opt/sw/pure-data/pd/doc I appreciate any help Thanks Luigi Am 03.Okt.09 um 03.Okt.09 MESZ 10:35 schrieb Luigi Rensinghoff: > Great.. > > Thanks a lot > > Sounds Promising > > > Am 03.Okt.09 um 03.Okt.09 MESZ 10:23 schrieb Florian Krebs: > >> Hello, >> >> I added Mike, the developer of the PD-External and IOhannes, who is >> also actively working with the External to our conversation. >> >> I continued working on the PD-external a bit the last weeks, and I >> think it would be great to set up a repository for it. >> >> @Mike Woz: Can we put it in the PureData development svn ? >> >> What I did was basically integrate multiple bluetooth dongle >> support (to be able to use more than 7 wiimotes on one computer). I >> haven't used the MotionPlus so far, but as I remember my collegue >> IOhannes is planning to use this for a project in a couple of >> weeks, and also Mike has done some work with the MotionPlus for the >> External. >> >> So again I would say next step is to put it in svn. >> >> Greetings, >> >> Florian >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Luigi Rensinghoff" <postmaster(a)halbsolaut.de >> > >> To: <cwiid(a)abstrakraft.org>; <flokadillo(a)yahoo.de> >> Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 12:30 PM >> Subject: Motion Plus Data to be used with Puredata/OSC-Data-stream >> >> >>> Hello there, >>> >>> i am writing to you because the web told me, that >>> you are actively developing or working on the cwiid-library or the >>> Wiimote-PD-External for Puredata. >>> >>> I worked on a music-improvisation project with the wiimote and >>> wrote quite a bit of PD-Patches and used the PD-External on linux, >>> that depends on the cwiid library. >>> >>> I stopped further development because of the shortcomings due to >>> accelerometers only and the complicated IR-Things with the wiimote. >>> When i heard of the release of the MotionPlus, i was very excited >>> and was looking forward to the time, when the MotionPlus was >>> usuable with the PD-External. >>> >>> So now my question: >>> >>> Is it possible to use the MotionPlus with a recent version of >>> cwiid and the pd-external ? What do i need to do for that ? >>> Simply compile the PD-External against a cwiid-MotionPlus branch ? >>> >>> Did you make any tests with that ? I could read that it is still >>> more or less beta... >>> >>> I further would like to know if you are planning to continue >>> working on that, to know if in the near future i can count on a >>> more or less stable release, or if this will always stay a more >>> or less unstable beta-experiment project. >>> >>> I would very much appreciate any kind of feedback. If you know of >>> any other possible way to get data from the MotionPlus into an OSC- >>> Data stream - no matter which platform - please let me know as >>> well. >>> >>> Thanks a lot >>> >>> Luigi >>> >>> P.S. If you are interested in my actual performance got to my >>> website: >>> http://halbsolaut.de/www.halbsolaut.de/REWIND/Eintrage/1999/8/1_Experimente… >>> >>> or do a search "berby & nerd" on youtube/vimeo >>> >>> >>> ------->>>>>>>>>>----------------->>>>>>>>>>>>----- >>> >>> Dipl-Toning.(FH) Luigi Rensinghoff >>> mobil: 0177-5412191 >>> skype: gigischinke >>> www.halbsolaut.de >>> luigi(a)halbsolaut.de >> >> > > ------->>>>>>>>>>----------------->>>>>>>>>>>>----- > > Dipl-Toning.(FH) Luigi Rensinghoff > mobil: 0177-5412191 > skype: gigischinke > www.halbsolaut.de > luigi(a)halbsolaut.de >

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crazy bug: all user actions executed twice
by Matteo Sisti Sette 14 Dec '09

14 Dec '09

Hi, I write just to see if anybody has already seen this happaning and can give me some clue as how to avoid it. I am not even sure the problem is with GEM, but I have worked on much more huge patches in PD without gem and never seen anything similar. I am on Windows Vista with the latest PD Vanilla and the latest GEM. I have not been able to isolate the problem; if anybody with some possibility to debug it is willing to try the patch and find out something I can send it to him/her. So, the problem is, in some occasions, very frequently (usually after opening the main patch, closing it, and opening it again), every user action (e.g.: clicking on a bang or toggle, hitting some key INCLUDING ctrl+1 to create an object or introducing input into an object or message box, or even a "save as") gets executed two or even more times. As you can imagine that fucks everything up. If I just open the patch and run it it works fine, but for even the smallest change that implies modifying some abstraction, I have to close PD, open it again, modify the abstraction I have to modify, save, close PD and open it again, since if I just save or even if I close all patches and open the main one again, everything is fucked up. It is impossible to work this way. Usually restarting the computer makes the bug disappear but then it is a matter of minutes before it starts showing again. I know that, if this is the first time you hear of it, you will hardly be hable to help, but my hope is that someone has observed this already and have been able to link it to a particular object or condition. By the way, I have checked that when this happens, NO duplicate "pd.exe" nor "whish84" process exists (provided that task manager is reliable). Thanks in advance m. -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistisette(a)gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com

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message box issue with blank spaces
by Matteo Sisti Sette 14 Dec '09

14 Dec '09

Hi, As far as I know, some representation of the space character does exist in PD which can be contained in symbols. The "proof" is that if I bang an [openpanel] and I browse to a file whose path contains spaces, I can send the output to a symbol atom, print it, use [label $1( to send it to a canvas etc and it doesn't get truncated. I can store it in a [symbol] and use later without issue. So that kind of symbol definitely exists, no matter how it is internally represented. But if I send such a symbol (containing blank spaces, e.g. the output of an openpanel) to the following chain: ... | [list prepend set] | [list trim] | [ ( then the symbol IS truncated at the first space. That is, the [set( message to a messagebox doesn't seem to handle correctly symbols containing a blank space. Before I report it to the bugtracker, am I missing something? P.S. the same results are obtained with [set $1( | [ ( but since it involves two message boxes i thought it could be more confusing. -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistisette(a)gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com

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Re: [PD] message box issue with blank spaces
by Matteo Sisti Sette 14 Dec '09

14 Dec '09

Frank Barknecht wrote: > Bryan Jurish wrote: > > afaik, the issue you're observing is due to the message box, > > which uses > > t_binbuf internally to (re-)parse messages into pd atoms. > > I think, it only happens on saving or reloading of a patch, > though. No, as I noted before it also happens if you edit the message box manually. > For example > in the attachement a numeric symbol is generated with > [makefilename %d] and > written to a message box. While this symbol looks like a number, > it is in fact > a symbol (as intended) and cannot be used for calculations > (but it can be used as text in Gem). Until you click on the message box in edit mode, and for example add a space (or whatever) at the end, and delete it if you want, to leave the content apparently unchanged. Then the content of the box is reparsed (I guess) and the "123" becomes a real float: if you bang it, the [+] will perform the sum successfully. -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistisette(a)gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com

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Using commands to launch ffplay or vlc with the "system" external, and daemon at
by tep 14 Dec '09

14 Dec '09

Hi, I need to launch either ffplay or vlc by sending messages to the "system" external. I know almost nothing about the commands in linux, but i was told that it's required to use the "at" daemon, and also echo. Did try several things but nothing works as i don't know the syntax. I thought it would be something like : echo vlc /home/user/Desktop/alea.mpg | at now but it just doesn't make anything .... while it works with, let's say, the clocK Is there a special character i need to add ? Sorry for the simple question. -- http://www.myspace.com/nicotep www.bedroomresearch.com/TEP http://nicotep.free.fr -- http://www.myspace.com/nicotep www.bedroomresearch.com/TEP http://nicotep.free.fr

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Re: [PD] buiding_pd-extended
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 14 Dec '09

14 Dec '09

I don't get the MD5 issue, your .patch file probably got corrupted. Here the files are again in a zip: .hc On Dec 13, 2009, at 3:54 PM, Cosmin S wrote: > Hey Hans, > > I've put the attached artoolkit.patch and artoolkit.info into /sw/ > fink/dists/local/main/finkinfo. > The MD5checksum mismatck (ˆˆˆ) and even if I change it to the actual > one I have an issue with "/usr/bin/printf "y\ny\n" | ./ > Configure" (ˆˆˆ). > > What is wrong? > > C. > > CC: pd-list(a)iem.at > From: hans(a)at.or.at > To: horiacosmin(a)hotmail.com > Subject: Re: buiding_pd-extended > Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 13:45:35 -0500 > > > Hey Cosmin, > > Let's keep this on the list for the record. This is the error I > just fixed in the Fink package: > > ld: common symbols not allowed with MH_DYLIB output format with the - > multi_module option > /sw/lib/libAR.a(arUtil.o) definition of common _arParam (size 136) > /sw/lib/libAR.a(arUtil.o) definition of common _arImXsize (size 4) > /sw/lib/libAR.a(arUtil.o) definition of common _arImYsize (size 4) > /sw/lib/libAR.a(arUtil.o) definition of common _arsMatR2L (size 96) > /sw/lib/libAR.a(arUtil.o) definition of common _arsParam (size 360) > > Put the attached files into /sw/fink/dists/local/main/finkinfo: > > > Vous êtes étudiants ? Bénéficiez de Windows 7 à 35€ ! Découvrez > notre offre ! <atoolkit_checksum.txt><printf_error.txt> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it. - Thomas Jefferson

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building pd from CVS
by Pagano, Patrick 14 Dec '09

14 Dec '09

hi i get this error ld: library not found for -lcrt1.10.5.o collect2: ld returned 1 exit status ld: library not found for -lcrt1.10.5.o collect2: ld returned 1 exit status lipo: can't open input file: /var/folders/Sx/Sx0Ig0-VHficnrDc8gZ1aE+++TI/-Tmp-//ccIG5uyz.out (No such file or directory) make: *** [../bin/pd-watchdog] Error 1 when tying to build pd from source. I am on 10.5.8 OSX. Do i have the wrong developer tools? Or is there a workround for this? thanks pp

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[PD-announce] Surround 5.1 Granulation 4.0 PD Patch Now Public
by Freaky DNA 13 Dec '09

13 Dec '09

Hi all, I've uploaded a new sampled sound granulation patch to my website at: http://www.VideoGameAudio.com/ under the 'patches' section: http://www.sfu.ca/~leonardp/VideoGameAudio/main.htm#patches It granulates a loaded sample and allows the grains to be distributed in 5.1 surround. It should be fairly easy for you to use the surround or granulation code in your own work. Let me know if it is useful to you and perhaps give credit when appropriate. I presented it as part of a demonstration at the GameSoundCon in San Francisco in November 2009 and had several people ask for the code, so here it is. If you're interested in further updates related to using Pure Data with video game audio, you can have a look at : http://twitter.com/VideoGameAudio . Cheers, Leonard J. Paul / VideoGameAudio.com _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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