Pd-list July 2007

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Any relation between pidip and Gem??
by Javier García 09 Jul '07

09 Jul '07

Hi, at my Pd binaries list (File> Startup...) i have wroten this: Gem pdp pidip .... When i open pd with "pd" i get this message: GEM: Graphics Environment for Multimedia GEM: ver: 0.91-cvs GEM: compiled: Jan 5 2007 GEM: maintained by IOhannes m zmoelnig GEM: Authors : Mark Danks (original version) GEM: Chris Clepper GEM: James Tittle GEM: IOhannes m zmoelnig GEM: with help by Guenter Geiger, Daniel Heckenberg, Cyrille Henry, et al. GEM: using MMX optimization PDP: pure data packet version 0.12.5-darcs PiDiP : additional video processing objects for PDP : version 0.12.20 ( ydegoyon(a)free.fr ) pdp_colorgrid: version 0.4, written by Yves Degoyon (ydegoyon(a)free.fr) & Lluis Gomez i Bigorda (lluis(a)artefacte.org) But if i delete "Gem" from my list, i get this: PDP: pure data packet version 0.12.5-darcs /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/pidip/pidip.pd_linux: /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/pidip/pidip.pd_linux: undefined symbol: quicktime_close Why? Im curious... br Javi _________________________________________________________________ Dale rienda suelta a tu tiempo libre. Mil ideas para exprimir tu ocio con MSN Entretenimiento. http://entretenimiento.msn.es/

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External with custom gui
by Carlos Pita 09 Jul '07

09 Jul '07

Hi all, I've written a tiny external with a custom gui following g_canvas and g_bang. But I don't know how to create a new object of this class. Should I add a menu entry? How can I do this? Or can my object be created without adding menu entries and or shortcuts? Thank you in advance. Cheers, Carlos

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[pdp_qt] and [pdp_qt~ ] not recognised as objects
by Javier García 09 Jul '07

09 Jul '07

hi! I have installed pdp 0.12.5 and pidip 0.12.20. I can create [pdp_yqt]. Is it a problem of release? what is the latest?. Yves, why dont you mention anything about the history of releases of pdp and pidip? Pd version 0.39.2-extended-test7/ Ubuntu Edgy/ Intel br. Javi _________________________________________________________________ Â¿EstÃ¡s pensando en cambiar de coche? Todas los modelos de serie y extras en MSN Motor. http://motor.msn.es/researchcentre/

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24bit on Linux Indigo IO
by Ed Kelly 09 Jul '07

09 Jul '07

Hi list, Does anyone know how to get PD working with a 24bit soundcard under Linux? I have an Echo Indigo IO - but I get a decimated mess using PD - sounds like a 24bit DAC playing back a 16bit word... Best, Ed Lone Shark "Aviation" out now on http://www.pyramidtransmissions.com http://www.myspace.com/sharktracks --------------------------------- Yahoo! Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Tryit now.

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Re: [PD] Shader for 3d flattening
by Patco 09 Jul '07

09 Jul '07

Forget this message, I was looking at the wrong example, and I have no clue about gemframebuffer because it has always crashed pd when rendering is turned on. ( win32,S3 Graphics UniChrome GEM: ver: 0.91-cvs GEM: compiled: Dec 11 2006 GEM: using SSE2 optimization ) > > Patco a Ã©crit : >> maciej wojnicki a Ã©crit : >> >>> well no >>> pix_snap will not do this >>> pix_snap2tex as well >>> >>> in both situation raw rendered object is still in the gem window >>> gemframebuffer might do this (there is an exaple .in textures >>> catalog - 10.framebuffer.pd, that does almost what i need) >>> >>> >> Hello, >> I guess you mean 10.pixdatasimple.pd in Gem pix example, if what you >> need is something that is not in single buffering, you'll need >> [Gem/pix_data] as well for extracting RGB information to redraw the >> image with colored geos [zexy/repeat], at least that what I need for >> animating the pixels. You can use some RGB filters, for example, at >> the output of pix_data a filter that only allow red or green, then it >> would reduce the number of repeated objects, and it might avoid to >> blow up the processor. for reducing the cpu process it's also >> possible to store pixel values in a table and reading different parts >> of the table with several [repeat] and [counter] objects, If you want >> to see how it looks like, take a look at this movie: >> >> http://megalego.free.fr/pd/YI.mov >> >> and you might have somewhere to start with this: >> >> http://megalego.free.fr/pd/YI.rar >> >> Apparently is also possible to reduce the CPU processing with using >> the gl objects, like Cyrille Henry have shown once(, but I couldn't >> help with this because almost all gl doesn't work on my computers, on >> linux, windows, with a Nvidia, an openchrome, with last cvs >> snapshots...). >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> >> > >

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pd conf?
by adam hyde 09 Jul '07

09 Jul '07

hey, I have been checking http://convention.puredata.org/ to see whats happening wiht montreal...no word so far. ayone got any ideas whats happening? adam -- adam hyde 'free as in media' ~/.nl http://www.flossmanuals.net http://www.simpel.cc http://www.radioqualia.net

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nogui mode WAS: Re: debian/ubuntu package for
by Mathieu Bouchard 09 Jul '07

09 Jul '07

On Tue, 3 Jul 2007, Roman Häfeli wrote: > On Tue, 2007-07-03 at 12:56 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: >> i think it would be interesting to split pd and pd-gui into 2 separate >> packages (pd recommending pd-gui, pd-gui probably depending on pd (but >> not necessarily)). >> right now, you can run pd with "-nogui", but due to all the dependencies >> in the package, you will have to install X, tk and so on. (correct me if >> i am wrong, i haven't checked) > i think, this is a good idea. puredata depends on tk8.4 depends on > libx11-6 depends on x11-common etc. so yes, in order to install pd now, > the whole x window system is installed. I don't see what's the problem. You don't have to install the whole X Window System, because it's already installed anyway. Unless you ran out of diskettes. _ _ __ ___ _____ ________ _____________ _____________________ ... | Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801, Montréal QC Canada

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Shader for 3d flattening
by maciej wojnicki 09 Jul '07

09 Jul '07

hello list I have been reading the thread about the glsl shaders lately and got quite excitet about all the possibilities that open with this method. I am wondering if I could find somewhere a shader that would take some gem primitives and flatten them to a picture of desired size (e.g. 640x480) so it would then be possible to process them with pix objects. For example I`d like to take some rectangulars, flatten them and then use it as a mask for some video, combining two pictures with pix_multiply. Is there any shader like that? Anyone knows how to write it? Thank you in advance All the best. Maciej --------------------------------- Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta.

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test (fwd)
by Mathieu Bouchard 09 Jul '07

09 Jul '07

test again, as i'm now able to connect to smtp mail.iem.at and actually send commands... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 22:33:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Mathieu Bouchard <matju(a)artengine.ca> To: pd-list(a)iem.at, IOhannes m zmoelnig <zmoelnig(a)iem.at> Subject: test i've been told that the pd-list looks like it's down, so i'm testing. As of now, the last mail in the pd-list archive is dated Sun Jul 8 03:07:33 CEST 2007, which was 21:07 yesterday in my time zone, so it's been 25 hours since last email, and so far it seems unlikely... plus someone said their mail didn't reach the archives. _ _ __ ___ _____ ________ _____________ _____________________ ... | Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801, Montréal QC Canada

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self-centering random walk
by Claude Heiland-Allen 09 Jul '07

09 Jul '07

Here's an example of a random walk that is biased towards the middle of its range and is guaranteed not exceed its bounds. Hope someone finds it useful, I'm using it for melodies in a generative piece (I'll publish the full patch in a couple of weeks). Any statisticians want to analyse it further than I have? Anyone have any suggestions for improvements? Claude -- http://claudiusmaximus@goto10.org #N canvas 0 0 781 423 10; #X obj 21 103 f 5; #X obj 184 111 random 10; #X obj 184 137 moses; #X obj 162 194 +; #X obj 21 130 t f f; #X obj 65 225 max -100; #X obj 65 245 t f f; #X floatatom 65 267 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 43 309 t f f; #X floatatom 43 331 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X floatatom 21 371 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 21 26 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 1 1 ; #X obj 162 79 t f b f; #X msg 184 159 -1; #X msg 214 159 1; #X obj 43 288 min 100; #X obj 21 51 metro 100; #X floatatom 79 26 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 21 168 t f f f; #N canvas 0 0 456 412 \$0-test-100 0; #X obj 314 172 moses; #X obj 292 229 +; #X obj 151 165 t f f; #X obj 292 114 t f b f; #X msg 314 194 -1; #X msg 344 194 1; #X obj 151 138 f 50; #X obj 314 146 random 99; #X obj 151 223 t f f; #X obj 151 274 + 1; #X obj 151 103 until; #X msg 33 304 normalize 1; #X obj 33 34 t b b b; #X msg 77 280 const 0; #X obj 33 331 s \$0-distribution-100; #X obj 151 297 tabwrite \$0-distribution-100; #X obj 151 251 tabread \$0-distribution-100; #X msg 151 76 100000; #X obj 33 12 inlet; #X connect 0 0 4 0; #X connect 0 1 5 0; #X connect 1 0 6 1; #X connect 2 0 8 0; #X connect 2 1 3 0; #X connect 3 0 1 0; #X connect 3 1 7 0; #X connect 3 2 0 1; #X connect 4 0 1 1; #X connect 5 0 1 1; #X connect 6 0 2 0; #X connect 7 0 0 0; #X connect 8 0 16 0; #X connect 8 1 15 1; #X connect 9 0 15 0; #X connect 10 0 6 0; #X connect 11 0 14 0; #X connect 12 0 11 0; #X connect 12 1 17 0; #X connect 12 2 13 0; #X connect 13 0 14 0; #X connect 16 0 9 0; #X connect 17 0 10 0; #X connect 18 0 12 0; #X restore 476 182 pd \$0-test-100; #N canvas 0 0 450 300 (subpatch) 0; #X array \$0-distribution-100 100 float 4; #X coords 0 1 99 0 128 100 1; #X restore 474 223 graph; #X obj 476 160 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1; #N canvas 0 0 450 300 (subpatch) 0; #X array \$0-distribution-10 10 float 4; #X coords 0 1 9 0 128 100 1; #X restore 331 223 graph; #X obj 333 161 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1; #N canvas 0 0 450 300 (subpatch) 0; #X array \$0-distribution-1000 1000 float 4; #X coords 0 1 999 0 128 100 1; #X restore 617 223 graph; #X obj 619 160 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1; #N canvas 0 0 456 412 \$0-test-10 0; #X obj 314 172 moses; #X obj 292 229 +; #X obj 151 165 t f f; #X obj 292 114 t f b f; #X msg 314 194 -1; #X msg 344 194 1; #X obj 151 223 t f f; #X obj 151 274 + 1; #X obj 151 103 until; #X msg 33 304 normalize 1; #X obj 33 34 t b b b; #X msg 77 280 const 0; #X msg 151 76 100000; #X obj 33 12 inlet; #X obj 314 145 random 9; #X obj 151 137 f 5; #X obj 151 251 tabread \$0-distribution-10; #X obj 151 297 tabwrite \$0-distribution-10; #X obj 33 331 s \$0-distribution-10; #X connect 0 0 4 0; #X connect 0 1 5 0; #X connect 1 0 15 1; #X connect 2 0 6 0; #X connect 2 1 3 0; #X connect 3 0 1 0; #X connect 3 1 14 0; #X connect 3 2 0 1; #X connect 4 0 1 1; #X connect 5 0 1 1; #X connect 6 0 16 0; #X connect 6 1 17 1; #X connect 7 0 17 0; #X connect 8 0 15 0; #X connect 9 0 18 0; #X connect 10 0 9 0; #X connect 10 1 12 0; #X connect 10 2 11 0; #X connect 11 0 18 0; #X connect 12 0 8 0; #X connect 13 0 10 0; #X connect 14 0 0 0; #X connect 15 0 2 0; #X connect 16 0 7 0; #X restore 333 183 pd \$0-test-10; #N canvas 0 0 456 412 \$0-test-1000 0; #X obj 314 172 moses; #X obj 292 229 +; #X obj 151 165 t f f; #X obj 292 114 t f b f; #X msg 314 194 -1; #X msg 344 194 1; #X obj 151 223 t f f; #X obj 151 274 + 1; #X obj 151 103 until; #X msg 33 304 normalize 1; #X obj 33 34 t b b b; #X msg 77 280 const 0; #X msg 151 76 100000; #X obj 33 12 inlet; #X obj 151 251 tabread \$0-distribution-1000; #X obj 151 297 tabwrite \$0-distribution-1000; #X obj 33 331 s \$0-distribution-1000; #X obj 314 146 random 999; #X obj 151 138 f 500; #X connect 0 0 4 0; #X connect 0 1 5 0; #X connect 1 0 18 1; #X connect 2 0 6 0; #X connect 2 1 3 0; #X connect 3 0 1 0; #X connect 3 1 17 0; #X connect 3 2 0 1; #X connect 4 0 1 1; #X connect 5 0 1 1; #X connect 6 0 14 0; #X connect 6 1 15 1; #X connect 7 0 15 0; #X connect 8 0 18 0; #X connect 9 0 16 0; #X connect 10 0 9 0; #X connect 10 1 12 0; #X connect 10 2 11 0; #X connect 11 0 16 0; #X connect 12 0 8 0; #X connect 13 0 10 0; #X connect 14 0 7 0; #X connect 17 0 0 0; #X connect 18 0 2 0; #X restore 619 182 pd \$0-test-1000; #X text 332 22 self-centering random walk technique; #X text 333 45 probability of decrease decreases as the value decreases ; #X text 333 59 probability of increase decreases as the value increases ; #X text 356 160 N = 10; #X text 498 159 N = 100; #X text 645 159 N = 1000; #X text 330 118 calculated from 100000 steps; #X text 330 100 some value distribution graphs for walks in [0 \, N-1] ; #X text 87 331 min ---> 0 as time ---> inf; #X text 110 266 max ---> 10 as time ---> inf; #X text 329 355 self-centering-random-walk.pd (copyleft) 2007-08-10 ; #X text 329 372 Claude Heiland-Allen <claudiusmaximus(a)goto10.org>; #X connect 0 0 4 0; #X connect 1 0 2 0; #X connect 2 0 13 0; #X connect 2 1 14 0; #X connect 3 0 0 1; #X connect 4 0 18 0; #X connect 4 1 12 0; #X connect 5 0 6 0; #X connect 6 0 7 0; #X connect 6 1 5 1; #X connect 8 0 9 0; #X connect 8 1 15 1; #X connect 11 0 16 0; #X connect 12 0 3 0; #X connect 12 1 1 0; #X connect 12 2 2 1; #X connect 13 0 3 1; #X connect 14 0 3 1; #X connect 15 0 8 0; #X connect 16 0 0 0; #X connect 17 0 16 1; #X connect 18 0 10 0; #X connect 18 1 15 0; #X connect 18 2 5 0; #X connect 21 0 19 0; #X connect 23 0 26 0; #X connect 25 0 27 0;

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