Pd-list May 2007

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Re: [PD] stand alone applications
by Miguel Cardoso 31 May '07

31 May '07

Hi Frank! //standalone: your bat file solves the issue on pc... now I just need to figure it out for mac... does anyone know how to force pd to open a file automatically? //plugin > http://www.iua.upf.edu/~malonso/pdplugin/ > I had seen that one before, but it doesn't seem to work... on windows it installs de plugin, but when I try the test examples they don't work. anyone on the pdlist has used them? is the plugin still being developed? From the info you sent me it seems that pdplugin is just a javascript plugin to connect to pd server, rather than having pd running on the client-side. thanks for all the help :) m On May 31, 2007, at 6:28 PM, Frank Barknecht wrote: > Hallo, > Miguel Cardoso hat gesagt: // Miguel Cardoso wrote: > > >> i don't want to get into "relic of commercial software thinking". >> >> Im just trying to figure out a way to run puredata on a browser as a >> internet plugin. >> > > Why didn't you say so? ;) > > There are some projects regarding Pd as a browser plugin. This is > what Google turned up: > > http://www.elec.qmul.ac.uk/dafx03/proceedings/pdfs/dafx66.pdf > > Beware: These are not really useful for distributing general purpose > patches. For that, you need to use a real Pd executable, either use an > installed one or include a stripped down one with your patches for > Linux, OS-X and/or Windows, like Max/MSP basically does. > > Which gives me an idea: Maybe we should make a minimal Pd > distribution, pd-compressed as the opposite of pd-extended, for the > major operating systems? Just a the bin-directory of a static build of > Pd, nothing else. Add a .bat or .sh file that starts this Pd and loads > MAIN.pd in the top dir: > > bin: > pd(.exe) > pd-gui(.exe) > pd.tk > lib: > ... > MAIN.pd > RUN.[sh|bat] > > Maybe also include expr. > > Though, as Windows lacks so many libraries, some more stuff would need > to be included. I made such a standalone for Windows and Linux(not > static) and put it to http://footils.org/pkg/pd-app.zip, if you want > to try. It's down to 1.9MB, and was tested on Linux with Wine. Just > run "RUN.bat" on Linux or "RUN.sh" on Linux. > > Ciao > -- > Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__ > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > listinfo/pd-list >

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Announde: DSP02 - Music composition software for children
by andersvi＠extern.uio.no 31 May '07

31 May '07

-------------------- Start of forwarded message -------------------- Delivery-date: Thu, 31 May 2007 12:20:10 +0200 Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 12:20:09 +0200 From: asbjorn blokkum flo <a.b.flo(a)notam02.no> To: Anders Vinjar <andersvi(a)extern.uio.no> Subject: DSP NOTAM Nedre gate 5 N-0551 Oslo Norway *FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE * Contact Information: Company name: NOTAM email address: admin(a)notam02.no NOTAM Web site address: http://www.notam02.no/notam02/english.html DSP2 Web site address: http://www.notam02.no/notam02/prod-prg-dsp02-e.html Telephone: (+47) 22 35 80 60 Fax: (+47) 22 35 80 61 *NOTAM releases DSP02 Version 1.1.1 free music composition software for children. * Oslo, Norway May 30, 2007. NOTAM, the Norwegian production centre for work with sound, has released a new version (1.1.1) of NOTAMs DSP02 software for Mac OSX, Windows, Linux and web-based use. The new version of DSP02 brings performance improvements and user interaction enhancements as well as support for Intel Mac. For educators, composers, musicians, and others working with children, who are looking for a creative, student-oriented method for teaching sound creation and manipulation. DSP02 delivers a simple, user-friendly way of mixing, editing, and sound processing in one package. *DSP2 as a tool for learning* DSP02 is designed for a non-linear approach to composition, and allows students to develop compositions free from musical conventions and stylistic blueprints. The creative impulse is at the center of the tools, which through easy interactivity allows free, non-restricted exploration of what the software tools can be used for. DSP02 is published on a website which also contains a large number of help- and tutorial texts, as well as musical examples and tasks that can be developed by using the provided samples library. This makes the website into a comprehensive educational tool for composition with electronic sound. /DSP02 is particularly well suited for young composers from 5th to 10th grade. / DSP02 includes a large number of synthesis and sound processing tools for various types of sound design, traditional and non-traditional, such as sound editor, mixer, FM synthesis, additive synthesis, time stretch, 4 types of filters, chorus/vibrato/flanger, ring modulation, harmonizer, reverb, delay, formant synthesis, guitar string synthesis, spectral sieve, spectrum shift, and different algorithms for machine composition. *DSP02 is free, and can be downloaded for OSX, Windows and Linux from: *http://www.notam02.no/DSP02/en/index.php?page=317 DSP02 - for educators, composers, musicians, and others working with children, looking for an easy way to learn sound creation and manipulation, DSP2 delivers a simple and user friendly way of working with sound synthesis, sound manipulation and mixing in one package. *For more information, visit their web site at: *http://www.notam02.no/notam02/prod-prg-dsp02-e.html -------------------- End of forwarded message --------------------

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how to modify path in open message
by tania habib 31 May '07

31 May '07

Hello, I have made the script for recording wave files using 16 channels. I am using writesf~ with the message open /Users/tania/Desktop/ch1.wav My question is that can there be a quick way of just changing one message box so that If I change the destination directory for files, it can be changed for all. Or is there a way of seperating the destination file path and file name into two seperate blocks and combining them later in open message block So that by just sending a bang, I will get the the changes made in all blocks regards, tania

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how to modify path in open message
by tania habib 31 May '07

31 May '07

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Announce: MAMMUT v.0.59
by andersvi＠extern.uio.no 31 May '07

31 May '07

-------------------- Start of forwarded message -------------------- Delivery-date: Thu, 31 May 2007 12:20:01 +0200 Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 12:20:00 +0200 From: asbjorn blokkum flo <a.b.flo(a)notam02.no> To: Anders Vinjar <andersvi(a)extern.uio.no> Subject: mammut NOTAM Nedre gate 5 N-0551 Oslo Norway *FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE* Contact Information: Company name: NOTAM email address: admin(a)notam02.no NOTAM Web site address: http://www.notam02.no/notam02/english.html Mammut Web site address: http://www.notam02.no/notam02/prod-prg-mammut-e.html Telephone: (+47) 22 35 80 60 Fax: (+47) 22 35 80 61 *NOTAM releases Mammut version 0.59 free sound processing software. * Oslo, Norway May 30, 2007. NOTAM, the Norwegian production centre for work with sound, has released a new version (0.59) of NOTAMs Mammut software for Mac OSX, Windows and Linux. The new version of this unique frequency-based sound processing software brings performance improvements and major user interaction enhancements. For composers, sound designers, experimental musicians or producers looking for a new approach to sound creation and manipulation, Mammut delivers a unique way of working with sound in the frequency domain. Mammut will do a frequency analysis of your sound in one single gigantic FFT analysis (no windows). These spectral data, where the development in time is incorporated in mysterious ways, may then be transformed by different algorithms. An interesting aspect of Mammut is its completely non-intuitive sound transformation approach. Different transforms can be applied to the spectrum, such as nonlinear stretching, spectrum shift, convolution, filtering and permutation. Mammut is a somewhat unpredictable program, and the user must get used to the idea of loosing control over the time axis. The sonic result is often surprising. However, Mammut is also ideal for standard operations like filtering, spectrum shift and convolution. The no-window approach gives ultimate sound quality. *Mammut version 0.59 features: * - A new approach to sound creation and manipulation in the frequency domain - Unique single gigantic FFT analysis method. - Stretch: Non-linear stretching of the frequency axis. - Wobble: Alternately stretch and contract the frequency axis - Multiply phase: Multiply all phases with the value you specify - Derivate amp: Replaces the amplitude spectrum with its derivative (slope). - Filter: Optimal bandstop filter. The ultimate in cut-off performance! - Invert: Splits the spectrum into regions with specified size, and turn backward. - Threshold: Removes all partials below a given amplitude threshold. - Spectrum Shift: Optimal spectrum shift, with no window artifacts. - Block Swap: Selects randomly positioned regions of the spectrum, and interchange. - Mirror: Reflects the whole spectrum around the frequency you specify. *For more information, visit their web site at: *http://www.notam02.no/notam02/prod-prg-mammut-e.html *Mammut is free, and can be downloaded from: *OSX: http://www.notam02.no/arkiv/macosx/ Windows: http://www.notam02.no/arkiv/windows/ Linux: http://www.notam02.no/arkiv/src/ Mammut: for composers, sound designers, experimental musicians or producers looking for a new approach to sound creation and manipulation in the frequency domain. -------------------- End of forwarded message --------------------

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Re: [PD] [OT] M$ invents the reacTable
by Matteo Sisti Sette 31 May '07

31 May '07

Though I'm a big fan of Reactable, and quite not a fan of Microsoft, and though I do recognize the similarities, I don't think the creators of Reactable invented computer vision, nor the idea of a touch display. -- Email.it, the professional e-mail, gratis per te: http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Problemi di LiquiditÃ ? Con Logos Finanziaria 30.000 Â in 24 ore a dipendenti e lavoratori autonomi con rimborsi fino a 120 mesi, clicca qui * Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=2911&d=30-5

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Re: [PD] [OT] M$ invents the reacTable
by Matteo Sisti Sette 31 May '07

31 May '07

> Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: >> Though I'm a big fan of Reactable, and quite not a fan of Microsoft, and >> though I do recognize the similarities, I don't think the creators of >> Reactable invented computer vision, nor the idea of a touch display. >> > > >I know. I know. > >I was just making a joke of how most people will believe they (M$) >invented it. Oh, yeah -lol- NOW I get it. sorry ;) -- Email.it, the professional e-mail, gratis per te: http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Fai squillare la PANTERA ROSA sul tuo cellulare: e' in REGALO Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=6613&d=31-5

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netsent help
by nosehair911＠bellsouth.net 31 May '07

31 May '07

Mike, Can you tell me where I can read up on netsend. I have tried to follow your code but I still get a compile error. I tried this: #include "u_pdsend.h" char* host = "localhost"; int port = 8779; char* protocol = "tcp"; char str[1024]; Then I use pdsend_init(host, port, protocol); then I use it the way you do by: sprintf(str,"%d (%d,%d)", i, iMeanx, iMeany); pdsend_message(str); but I get this compile error: /usr/bin/ld: Undefined symbols: pdsend_init(char*, int, char*) pdsend_message(char*) collect2: ld returned 1 exit status Anyway I have been looking for instructions online without success. If you can point the way to a webpage that would be great. Alain > > From: Mike Wozniewski <mike(a)mikewoz.com> > Date: 2007/05/29 Tue PM 04:55:35 EDT > To: nosehair911(a)bellsouth.net > CC: pd-list(a)iem.at > Subject: Re: [PD] opencv motion tracker external HELP! > > Hi Alain, > > I've used the OpenCV blobtracker with Pd before, and I simply send blob > positions and sizes over UDP using u_pdsend.c > > I've attached my code and makefile... look in blobtrack.c and search for > where I use the pdsend_init() and pdsend_message() functions... it's > pretty simple. > > Then you just use [netreceive] in Pd and parse the list as you deem > necessary. > > Hope this helps, > -Mike > > > P.S. my blobtracker code is meant for use with a live camera, not with > .avi files. > >

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Re: [PD] future directions for threading in Pd (Was: Re: puredata evolution)
by Phil Stone 30 May '07

30 May '07

Hi Mathieu, Sorry to sound so enthusiastic! I know it was brainstorming, but I'm just happy to hear people thinking about the same things, especially to think that it's even possible...someday. Good luck with DesireData. I miss your presence on the PD list. Phil Stone Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > On Wed, 30 May 2007, Phil Stone wrote: > >> And now to hear it's being thought about in DD...this is so cool! I >> really hope it can happen. Please keep us posted on any developments. > > When I had this discussion I had GridFlow in mind, not DesireData, but > I always think about how one idea connects to the rest of what exists, > so I always think of possible future expansion. Features of GridFlow > that need not be specific to GridFlow, are usually designed to make > sense for pd at large, even if those features are still only bundled > with GridFlow. Generally, GridFlow is closer to the concepts that are > in Pd itself, than other video plugins are. > > DesireData has been almost on hold since sometime in January. My plan > is to resume working on it this week and finish what I already > started. This certainly won't include threads. > > I don't even think that a threaded GridFlow is for 2007. > > Brainstorming is not a promise of software and a promise of software > is not software. > > (note that even though I post this I have no idea what's been on > pd-list since March and I don't expect to read pd-list anytime soon) > > _ _ __ ___ _____ ________ _____________ _____________________ ... > | Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801, Montréal QC Canada

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Re: [PD] opencv motion tracker external HELP!
by nosehair911＠bellsouth.net 30 May '07

30 May '07

I just realized I should be posting in the pd-dev list so from now on any questions I have relating to this project will be posted there. Martin, I am getting a weird error when I try sym = gensym(symstr); I get no match for 'operator=' in 'sym = gensym(((char*)(& symstr)))' I dont know what thats all about. I have seen this used before with no problems. Alain > > From: <martin.peach(a)sympatico.ca> > Date: 2007/05/29 Tue AM 11:51:36 EDT > To: <pd-list(a)iem.at> > CC: Tim Boykett <tim(a)timesup.org>, IOhannes m zmoelnig <zmoelnig(a)iem.at>, <nosehair911(a)bellsouth.net> > Subject: Re: Re: [PD] opencv motion tracker external HELP! > > > I dont think I quite understood. I tried: > > > > #define FRAMEOUT frame > > > > IplImage *frame = 0; > > > > x->x_outlet = outlet_new(&x->x_obj, &s_anything); > > outlet_anything(x->x_outlet, FRAMEOUT); > > > > with the same results. Maybe someone can dumb it down for me? > > You can only work with atoms in pd's message system, and each atom usually contains a bang, a float or a symbol. You could convert the pointer to a float but it probably won't work because the pointer is a large integer that won't be accurately represented as a float. You could convert the pointer to a symbol using something like: > char symstr[10]; > t_symbol sym; > sprintf(symstr, "%p", frame); > sym = gensym(symstr); > ...then send sym through the outlet and convert it back to a pointer at the receiving end by extracting the string from the s_name field of the symbol and passing it to atol(). > > Martin >

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