Pd-list October 2007

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pd-extended 39-3 libraries load
by pit klong 16 Oct '07

16 Oct '07

> On Windows, if you install the registry settings that are included in > the installer, then all of the libraries will be loaded. > You can also run \Program Files\pd\pd-settings.reg to set all > libraries to load on startup. it definitely doesn't work. i installed it, run manually pd-settings.reg, but still (and also after rebooting) objects like "demux" or "dumpOSC" aren't available. pit .hc On Oct 7, 2007, at 7:12 AM, Luiz Naveda wrote: > > I ask me the same thing every day... > > Nowdays I have had a strange problem. I have my own library which > depends on some other libraris from PD extended. When I have to > install it in other computers, I put my folders in 2 of the 10 slot- > path but normally it misses 3 or 4 other libraries, so I start to > look for the missing objects and rewrite all missing libraries in > the 10 slots... > > Best > > Luiz > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Luiz Naveda <lab.naveda at gmail.com> > Date: Oct 7, 2007 12:51 PM > Subject: Re: [PD] pd-extended 39-3 libraries load > To: pit klong <klong1 at gmx.de> > > I ask me the same thing every day... > > Nowdays I have had a strange problem. I have my own library which > depends on some other libraris from PD extended. When I have to > install it in other computers, I put my folders in 2 of the 10 slot- > path but normally it misses 3 or 4 other libraries, so I start to > look for the missing objects and rewrite all missing libraries in > the 10 slots... > > Best > > Luiz > On 10/7/07, pit klong <klong1 at gmx.de> wrote: > hello list, > i've installed Pd-0.39.3-extended-rc5-windowsxp-i386.exe on XP, > with default library set. > > i wonder that no dll's from the "extra"-path are available. > and i do not understand at all, in file->path... there are 10 slots > for paths, but you have plenty of more paths with libraries/ > externals in pd-ext. > > how do i manage a startup that loads ALL externals, ALL dlls? > > regards, > pit > > -- Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehÃ¶rt? Der kanns mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger

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Re: [PD] translations for pdpedia templates Nederlands
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 16 Oct '07

16 Oct '07

On Oct 15, 2007, at 12:53 PM, Hans Roels wrote: > Hi Tim, > > Ik ben langzaamaan alle help-patchen van Pd-vanilla in het nederlands > aan het vertalen (voor mijn leerlingen), je kan die patch hier vinden: > > http://home.versateladsl.be/hanstine/hans/help-intro-nl.pd If you want to add all of those translations to the CSV file, then they will be included in the import of all the objects into the NL pdpedia. > Ik pas dat bestand dan wel aan zodat we dezelfde vertaling/termen > gebruiken, ik wil wel helpen met de vertalingen op pd-pedia. Just create an account and start editing :-) http://pdpedia.org/nl/ .hc > > groeten, hans > > At 16:52 10/10/2007, you wrote: >> Hi Kristof, >> >>> (tried to send this an hour ago, but seems like it didn't get >>> through. >>> sorry if you receive it twice) >>> >> I have this too with pd-list, sometimes it takes more than an hour >> for >> my mail to appear. >>> >>>>> $arguments = "argumenten"; >>> >>> maybe "parameters" is better here. if i hear "argumenten" in Dutch i >>> rather think of arguments like in a discussion >> >> I'm not sure about that, because not all 'parameters' can be given as >> creation arguments. >> For example: afaik an [phasor~] can get its frequency from an >> argument, >> but the phase is a parameter that can only be set from its right >> inlet. >> To me, 'parameters' also includes things that can only be set via >> inlets >> while 'argumenten' is more specificaly the stuff you can put in an >> object box to the right of the object name. >> The 'discussie' metaphor is not so wrong: you say 'this object should >> exist' and as arguments you can say more specifically how and >> why...just >> like when you have an 'argument' over something. >> But that's just my idea... >> My vote is to let the entry $arguments = "argumenten"; as is below, >> feel free to adapt. >> >>>>> $messages = "berichten"; // could be 'boodschappen' too, but >>>>> that >>>>> sounds a bit wierd to me, as that also means 'arrands'. >>> >>> i think "berichten" definitely sounds better >>> >>>>> $dependencies = "vereisten"; // translated freely as >>>>> 'requirements' here, maybe there's a better word but it doesnt >>>>> spring to mind now >>> >>> if i read "vereisten" in Dutch i wouldn't think of dependencies the >>> way it's used in computer programming. maybe the literal translation >>> "afhankelijkheden"? sounds a bit ugly but i think it's more clear >>> >>>>> $releaseDate = "uitgebrachtOp"; // or 'gepubliceerdOp' ? or >>>>> 'vrijgegevenOp? or >>> >>> "datum van uitgave" ? - i think it's better to stick to a noun.. >> >> # wikipedia terms >> $stub = "Beginnetje"; >> $template = "Sjabloon"; >> $category = "Categorie"; >> $infobox = "Infobox"; >> >> # pdpedia terms >> $objectclass = "Objectklasse"; >> >> # page headers >> $inlets = "Ingangen"; >> $outlets = "Uitgangen"; >> $arguments = "Argumenten"; >> $messages = "Berichten"; >> >> # infobox >> $name = "Naam"; >> $description = "Beschrijving"; >> $abbreviation = "Afkorting"; >> $library = "Bibliotheek"; >> $author = "Auteur"; >> $developer = "Ontwikkelaar"; >> $releaseVersion = "Versie"; >> $releaseDate = "Datum van uitgave"; // too bad 'uitgavedatum' >> isn't in the dictionary...or is mine incomplete ? >> $dependencies = "Afhankelijkheden"; >> $license = "Licentie"; >> $website = "Website"; >> $programmingLanguage = "Programmeertaal"; >> $platform = "Platform"; >> $operatingSystem = "Besturingssysteem"; >> $language = "Taal"; >> $dataType = "Data type"; >> $distributions = "Distributies"; >> >> Tim >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > listinfo/pd-list ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- "[W]e have invented the technology to eliminate scarcity, but we are deliberately throwing it away to benefit those who profit from scarcity." -John Gilmore

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Re: [PD] [OT] Re: about sexism is TERMINATE THREAD PLEASE
by ydegoyon＠free.fr 16 Oct '07

16 Oct '07

Derek Holzer wrote: > As Roman already so eloquently suggested.... > > EVERYONE PLEASE STOP THIS NOW. > > You're all adults enough that no one needs to get the last word in. I hope. > > Thanks, > derek > > -- > derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ::: http://blog.myspace.com/macumbista > ---Oblique Strategy # 164: > "Twist the spine" > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > sorry, _nobody_ can stop a discussion here, and not in this authoritative way... ( except if it _disturbs_ you, which is kind of revelating ) there's no 'PLEASE STOP' there is 'YES PLEASE HURT ME!', that's all we can take here. i was disconnected for some days, but you might know more soon. and as derek yourself you said once : 'thank you, pueblo!' ( for downloading objects from her site ) so to hell if you're not concerned how girls are treated in the pd community ( actually just as meat and object of greasy jokes ), so again, yeh, sorry, they won't participate to nothing here! from the south, sevy

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pyext~
by patrick 16 Oct '07

16 Oct '07

hi all, thomas, is it possible to use pyext~ this way: try: import pyext except: print "ERROR: This script must be loaded by the PD/Max py/pyext external" try: import psyco psyco.full() print "Using JIT compilation" except: # don't care pass import sys, math, mad, socket, urlparse, os.path from optparse import OptionParser try: import numarray except: print "Failed importing numarray module:",sys.exc_value class play(pyext._class): """MP3 Player""" def __init__(self,*args): scheme, netloc, path, params, query, fragment = urlparse.urlparse('http://freesound.iua.upf.edu/data/19/previews/19560__11h11__itmightbeempty_…') try: host, port = netloc.split(':') except ValueError: host, port = netloc, 80 if not path: path = '/' sock = socket.socket(socket.AF_INET, socket.SOCK_STREAM) sock.connect((host, int(port))) sock.send('GET %s HTTP/1.0\r\n\r\n' % path) reply = sock.recv(1500) file = sock.makefile() mf = mad.MadFile(file) print "bitrate %lu bps & samplerate %d Hz - ready" % (mf.bitrate(), mf.samplerate()) def _dsp(self): if not self._arraysupport(): print "No DSP support" return False def _signal(self): self._outvec(0)[:] = self.mf.read() #self._outvec(0)[:] = self._invec(0) mad is for playing mp3 file. i know it's hopeless to just try to pass the buffer to _signal... but i am wonderign if it's possible: self._outvec(0)[:] = self.mf.read() maybe combined with a while. if not, then there's only readanysf~ for playing distant mp3 file, but it's not working for me with a long url ('http://freesound.iua.upf.edu/data/19/previews/19560__11h11__itmightbeempty_…') don't know why... or maybe there's another solution? pat

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level of abstraction in gem
by Atte André Jensen 16 Oct '07

16 Oct '07

Hi So I played a bit with gem, and still have lots to learn. One thing I keep thinking is how low an abstraction level I'm working on. Is this simply the way it should be or are there any abstractions available that'll cut corners. I realize that to some extend there's a tradeoff between being 100% in control and a high abstraction level, but to get a newbie like me going quickly a blend would be nice. I'm not even sure exactly what I'd like to see, but some wiz-bang filters that do a lot and look good. BTW: I'm in no way complaining and I'm trying not to be lazy :-) -- peace, love & harmony Atte http://atte.dk | http://myspace.com/attejensen http://anagrammer.dk | http://modlys.dk

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gem/fullscreen/linux
by Atte André Jensen 16 Oct '07

16 Oct '07

Hi So I'm having fun playing around with gem. I can already see myself using it live soon. However I can't figure out how to start gem rendering in fullscreen without showing any gui, including gem window border/title bar and mouse. The closest I can get is by sending [dimen 1024 768( to [gemwin] before creation and starting pd with -nogui. Unfortunately this still shows the title bar of the window, the mouse and my panel at the bottom of the screen. This of course looks stupid in a performance... An ackward solution could be to create a user in whos .xsession the only thing happening is starting pd with -nogui, but I didn't try that yet since it's ackward and might not even work... I'm running debian/linux with openbox and xfce4-panel. Pd and gem are compiled from source and are versions 0.40.3 and 0.90. -- peace, love & harmony Atte http://atte.dk | http://myspace.com/attejensen http://anagrammer.dk | http://modlys.dk

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GEM in 3 extended windows desktops
by altern 16 Oct '07

16 Oct '07

hi For an installation i have access to a windows machine that has a graphics card with three video outputs. We are trying to get 3 fullscreen video proyections from the same machine. I made a patch that opens up a GEM window with 3072x768 size. Then render a rectangle with an image for each of the desktop areas. First matches the first desktop's size and position , same for the second and the third. But it looks like GEM does not extends to the second and third desktops when opening on fullscreen mode, only if I open in a normal window shows the image in the second monitor. Ideally I would need to be fullscreen so that any other OS items are hidden. Has anyone tried something similar before?. Sorry i could not check the mailing list archives because i can only send email, not browse the internet at the moment. thanks! enrike

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a general discussion about which software to learn: pd, max, both... or else?
by David Schaffer 16 Oct '07

16 Oct '07

Hi everybody, I'm a stage/audiovisual technician willing to make a move into digital arts. I've been using pd for quite some time know and I was wondering if it would be useful for me to learn Max: according to you guys, which of the two programs seems to be most widely used, most popular, most promising in terms of future devellopements? Is it worth to be good in both or to become "excellent" (whatever that means...) in one of them? Is there another platform out there that would be worth giving a look (outside of the established stuff like pro tools, final cut, photoshop etc...) Thank you for your answers. D.S

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[PD-announce] DesireData 2007.08.04
by Mathieu Bouchard 16 Oct '07

16 Oct '07

http://artengine.ca/desiredata/download/desiredata-2007.08.04.tar.gz ChangeLog: ------------------8<--------cut-here--------8<------------------ DesireData 2007.08.04 : * Unicode locales * fixed type mismatch bug recently introduced in [unpack]... * fixed lost console posts at startup * turned most fprintf() into post() or error() * added Chinese locale from Chun Lee * added Polish locale from Michal Seta * added object creation history * added arrow keys and mouse clicks to KeyboardDialog * added click drag and copy * added background grid * added snap to grid * added new font selector (in client prefs) _ _ __ ___ _____ ________ _____________ _____________________ ... | Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801, Montréal QC Canada _______________________________________________ PD-announce mailing list PD-announce(a)iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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camera setup with pix_video
by Oded Ben-Tal 16 Oct '07

16 Oct '07

I'm looking to but a cheap ($20) camera to use with PD/Gem on a MacPro (osx 10.4). Will most cameras be supporter (i.e. [pix_video] will work)? are their options to avoid? anyone has recomendations? I'm looking for fairly simple video capture option for experimenting sacrificing quality and portability and price. thanks -- ___________________________________________________ Oded Ben-Tal http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~oded oded(a)ccrma.stanford.edu

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