Pd-list January 2007

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[hid] - hid_get_events
by Spencer Russell 27 Jan '07

27 Jan '07

Hey there List, When I try to use hid, I get a flood of "hid_get_events" messages in the PD console. It seems like the object is still working, but it makes it difficult to use the console for any debugging. Something in a patch that I haven't used in a while is crashing my system, so I'm trying to track down suspects, and this seems like something is amiss. I also get 16 copies of the message "evdev EVIOCGABS ioctl: Invalid argument" in the xterm from which I launched PD as soon as I send the object an [open 5( message. I'm using version 0.7 of HID, and saw the error with several different versions of PD. Thanks, spencer

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[PD-announce] Fwd: Pd workshops + open source symposium in Los Angeles
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 27 Jan '07

27 Jan '07

Begin forwarded message: > From: reas / ucla <reas(a)ucla.edu> > Date: January 23, 2007 7:41:38 AM EST > Subject: O P E N @ UCLA > > > Hello! > > The schedule for OPEN is locked and the website promoting the event > is now live. Please help get the word out. Please send the > announcement (below) to your internal department email lists, > friends, and other > relevant lists. > > The event is free and open for all. We're encouraging people to > register so we can judge attendance and provide wireless access. UC > faculty and graduate students will have priority for the workshops > because space is > limited. > > I'm very excited about the program and I look forward to seeing you > soon. I'll be sending an email about tech checks, parking, and > other details on the week of the event. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the event, please let me > know via email or phone (+1 310 382 6007). > > Regards, > Casey > > > -- > > O P E N > > UC Digital Arts Research Network > Open Source Sound, Image, and Electronics > > 9,10 February 2007 > @ EDA, Broad Arts Center, UCLA > > A gathering for open source users, advocates, and developers. > > Symposium (Friday): > Cory Doctorow - USC, Boing Boing > Greg Niemeyer - UC Berkeley > David Cuartielles - Arduino.cc, K3 Malmo > Beatriz da Costa - UC Irvine > Xavier Amatriain - UC Santa Barbara, MATi, CREATE > Michael Zbyszynski - UC Berkeley, CNMAT > Ben Fry - Processing.org, Carnegie Mellon > Robert Nideffer - UC Irvine > > Workshops (Saturday): > Processing - Ben Fry > Arduino - David Cuartielles > PD - August Black > > > The event is free and open to the public. > > For more information visit: > http://ucdarnet.org/projects/OPEN/ > > Please register here: > http://ucdarnet.org/projects/OPEN/registration.php > > > All lectures take place in the EDA, Broad Art Center, 240 Charles E. > Young Drive, Room 1250 Los Angeles, CA 90095 > Directions: http://dma.ucla.edu/info/directions.php > > -- > > Also, in association with O P E N: > > Regents' Lecturer: Nicholas Negroponte > Eliminating Poverty by Learning Learning > > February 8, 2007, 6:00pm > > Common practice in bridging the so-called "digital divide" in > developing > nations is to build computer labs in schools and teach children > WORD and > EXCEL thirty minutes a week. This is misguided. Children should not > learn productivity software suited for office workers. They should > make things, they should communicate, they should explore the > Internet. In short, they should learn learning, which includes the > passion to learn. > > The One Laptop per Child project is guided by the belief that you can > eliminate poverty with education. It aims to engage children in > their own education as well as peer-to-peer learning, by equipping > every child with a connected laptop with features you have never > dreamed of. By doing this globally, at a very large scale, and as a > non-profit association, the birth of the $100 laptop is feasible. > At least six countries, three continents and five million children > will be involved in the launch. > > -- > > O P E N is a joint program of the UC Digital Arts Research > Network and the Design | Media Arts department at UCLA. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > NYC mailing list > NYC(a)arduino.cc > http://mail.arduino.cc/mailman/listinfo/nyc_arduino.cc ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "[W]e have invented the technology to eliminate scarcity, but we are deliberately throwing it away to benefit those who profit from scarcity." -John Gilmore _______________________________________________ PD-announce mailing list PD-announce(a)iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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RE: [PD]render Gem video 2 disk
by paris＠parisgraphics.com 26 Jan '07

26 Jan '07

yes, exactly what i do but with mencoder (i'm not familiar with animaker) for example: mencoder "mf://*jpg" -mf fps=24 -o outfilename.avi -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mjpeg there's a ton of options so you can suit to taste. best, p > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [PD]render Gem video 2 disk > From: Patco <megalegoland(a)yahoo.fr> > Date: Fri, January 26, 2007 1:56 pm > To: paris(a)parisgraphics.com, pd-list(a)iem.at, > nikola.jeremic(a)googlemail.com > > paris(a)parisgraphics.com a écrit : > > Hi Nikola, > > > > Check out [pix_write] > > > > i use this to save to a series of images that you can put together into > > a movie. > > > You can use a command tool for building the movie file from the image > files generated by [pix_write], with animmaker for example > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Mail réinvente le mail ! Découvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et son interface révolutionnaire. > http://fr.mail.yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

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RE: [Pd] Playing a bitmap
by paris＠parisgraphics.com 26 Jan '07

26 Jan '07

all politics aside, i was just wondering if you used an image like color bars (or maybe even reduce to three bars R, G, B) if it would be easier to figure out what's happening? good luck, p > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [Pd] Playing a bitmap > From: "Chuckk Hubbard" <badmuthahubbard(a)gmail.com> > Date: Fri, January 26, 2007 3:06 pm > To: "paris(a)parisgraphics.com" <paris(a)parisgraphics.com> > Cc: PD-list(a)iem.at > > On 1/25/07, paris(a)parisgraphics.com <paris(a)parisgraphics.com> wrote: > > hey chuckk, > > > > given the picture, no wonder it sounds bad ;-) > > Yeah, it's one of my more violent pieces. > > > > > i have actually not used this object myself (i use it's inverse) so not > > much help - maybe IOhannes or someone will know more, or there's the > > source code... > > > > good luck, > > p > > Thanks. I'd like to include something like this in my senior recital > in March, so if I figure it out now I'll have 2 months to try > different bitmaps. > > -Chuckk

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RE: [Pd] Playing a bitmap
by paris＠parisgraphics.com 26 Jan '07

26 Jan '07

hey chuckk, given the picture, no wonder it sounds bad ;-) i have actually not used this object myself (i use it's inverse) so not much help - maybe IOhannes or someone will know more, or there's the source code... good luck, p > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [Pd] Playing a bitmap > From: "Chuckk Hubbard" <badmuthahubbard(a)gmail.com> > Date: Thu, January 25, 2007 4:58 am > To: "paris(a)parisgraphics.com" <paris(a)parisgraphics.com> > Cc: PD-list(a)iem.at > > Here's what I have so far, using: > http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/df/US_%241_obverse.jpg > Since it's not copyrighted. > I don't understand exactly what's happening. It doesn't sound to me > like it's what I want; the frequencies just don't seem to line up. > > -Chuckk > > On 1/25/07, Chuckk Hubbard <badmuthahubbard(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > So, it seems to me the input would have to be a couple of pixels at > a > > time, with a small block size, in order to scroll. Like enter a > > column of pixels and do, as someone mentioned, reverse FFT to get a > > block. Maybe map the image to a rectangle with width 1, then slide > it > > across? I don't necessarily have to see the scrolling or even the > > image, but it would be nice. > > I don't want to be obnoxious, but I know next to nothing about Gem, > so > > any suggestions are welcome. > > > > -Chuckk > > > > On 1/23/07, paris(a)parisgraphics.com <paris(a)parisgraphics.com> wrote: > > > you might also want to check out the Gem object: > > > > > > pix_pix2sig~ > > > > > > best, > > > p > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > > > Subject: Re: [Pd] Playing a bitmap > > > > From: "Kevin McCoy" <km.takewithyou(a)gmail.com> > > > > Date: Tue, January 23, 2007 12:59 am > > > > To: "Claude Heiland-Allen" <claudiusmaximus(a)goto10.org>, > PD-list(a)iem.at > > > > > > > > That looks rad. I'll have to try it out. > > > > > > > > Kevin > > > > > > > > On 1/22/07, Claude Heiland-Allen <claudiusmaximus(a)goto10.org > > wrote:Chuckk Hubbard wrote: > > > > > On 1/23/07, Claude Heiland-Allen < claudiusmaximus(a)goto10.org> > wrote: > > > > >> Chuckk Hubbard wrote: > > > > >> > Has anyone done this with Pd? I thought I remembered > something in > > > > >> > GEM, but I can't find it anywhere. Just to have a cursor > scroll left > > > > >> > to right and assign the different values of pixels to > different > > > > >> > musical properties... > > > > >> > > > > > >> > -Chuckk > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> Like this? > > > > >> > > > > >> http://gridflow.ca/gallery/photo_pianoroll.pd.gif > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, I think so. How's it work? > > > > > Thanks for sharing. > > > > > > > > > > -Chuckk > > > > > > > > Not sure exactly, it's not my patch, but from the screenshot it > looks > > > > like it copies a scanline of greyscale pixels into an array, > then > > > > rescales the array exponentially into annother array > (frequency<->pitch > > > > conversion), then does an inverse fft and sends the resulting > audio to > > > > dac~; the partials of the output sound being determined by the > > > > particular scanline of the image that was just copied to the > array. > > > > > > > > I think this technique is a form of "scanned synthesis", but I'm > not an > > > > expert on terminology. At least searching pd-list for that term > shows > > > > up some interesting results... > > > > > > > > > > > > Claude > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > ++++ > > > > http://pocketkm.blogspot.com > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > > > > -- > > "Far and away the best prize that life has to offer is the chance to > > work hard at work worth doing." > > -Theodore Roosevelt > > > > > -- > "Far and away the best prize that life has to offer is the chance to > work hard at work worth doing." > -Theodore Roosevelt > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > #N canvas 0 0 193 195 12; > #N canvas 452 52 743 729 gem 1; > #N canvas 0 0 450 300 gemwin 0; > #X obj 132 136 gemwin; > #X obj 67 89 outlet; > #X obj 67 10 inlet; > #X obj 67 41 route create; > #X msg 67 70 set destroy; > #X msg 142 68 set create; > #X msg 132 112 create \, 1; > #X msg 198 112 destroy; > #X connect 2 0 3 0; > #X connect 3 0 4 0; > #X connect 3 0 6 0; > #X connect 3 1 5 0; > #X connect 3 1 7 0; > #X connect 4 0 1 0; > #X connect 5 0 1 0; > #X connect 6 0 0 0; > #X connect 7 0 0 0; > #X restore 618 523 pd gemwin; > #X msg 618 504 destroy; > #X obj 264 40 gemhead; > #X obj 344 16 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty pix_load 20 8 0 8 -262144 > -1 -1; > #N canvas 0 0 599 378 image 0; > #X obj 77 48 inlet; > #X obj 77 344 outlet; > #X obj 77 205 pix_image ../../doc/gem/examples/data/fractal.JPG; > #X obj 223 55 inlet; > #X msg 223 123 open \$1; > #X obj 223 100 openpanel; > #X connect 0 0 2 0; > #X connect 2 0 1 0; > #X connect 3 0 5 0; > #X connect 4 0 2 0; > #X connect 5 0 4 0; > #X restore 264 69 pd image; > #X obj 65 459 pix_pix2sig~; > #X msg 590 581 \; pd dsp 1; > #X obj 65 261 pix_texture; > #X obj 65 230 pix_crop; > #X floatatom 39 155 5 0 0 1 dimX - -; > #X floatatom 80 180 5 0 0 1 dimY - -; > #X floatatom 170 164 5 0 0 1 offX - -; > #X floatatom 145 197 5 0 0 1 offY - -; > #X obj 65 386 rectangle 0.008 3; > #X obj 65 426 pix_invert; > #X obj 40 414 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 1 > 1; > #X obj 65 356 translate; > #X msg 195 297 \$1 0 0; > #X floatatom 98 334 5 0 0 0 - - -; > #X obj 522 158 pix_texture; > #X obj 522 202 rectangle 5 3; > #X obj 195 240 - 400; > #X obj 195 269 / 80; > #X obj 34 21 metro 50; > #X obj 34 3 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 0 1 > ; > #X obj 73 56 f 0; > #X obj 106 55 + 1; > #X msg 109 24 0; > #X obj 468 443 block~ 2048 32; > #X obj 92 505 +~; > #X obj 93 542 /~ 2048; > #X obj 93 581 rifft~; > #X obj 93 615 outlet~; > #X msg 170 39 \$1 50; > #X obj 170 62 line 0 1; > #X obj 98 286 loadbang; > #X msg 98 310 1; > #X msg 39 124 1; > #X msg 80 136 427; > #X msg 135 134 0; > #X obj 58 94 loadbang; > #X connect 0 0 1 0; > #X connect 1 0 0 0; > #X connect 2 0 4 0; > #X connect 3 0 4 1; > #X connect 4 0 19 0; > #X connect 4 0 8 0; > #X connect 5 1 29 0; > #X connect 5 2 29 0; > #X connect 5 3 29 1; > #X connect 7 0 16 0; > #X connect 8 0 7 0; > #X connect 9 0 8 1; > #X connect 10 0 8 2; > #X connect 11 0 8 3; > #X connect 11 0 21 0; > #X connect 12 0 8 4; > #X connect 13 0 14 0; > #X connect 14 0 5 0; > #X connect 15 0 14 0; > #X connect 16 0 13 0; > #X connect 17 0 16 2; > #X connect 18 0 16 1; > #X connect 19 0 20 0; > #X connect 21 0 22 0; > #X connect 22 0 17 0; > #X connect 23 0 25 0; > #X connect 24 0 23 0; > #X connect 25 0 26 0; > #X connect 25 0 33 0; > #X connect 26 0 25 1; > #X connect 27 0 25 1; > #X connect 29 0 30 0; > #X connect 30 0 31 0; > #X connect 31 0 32 0; > #X connect 33 0 34 0; > #X connect 34 0 11 0; > #X connect 35 0 36 0; > #X connect 36 0 18 0; > #X connect 37 0 9 0; > #X connect 38 0 10 0; > #X connect 39 0 12 0; > #X connect 40 0 37 0; > #X connect 40 0 38 0; > #X connect 40 0 39 0; > #X restore 65 54 pd gem; > #X obj 51 93 dac~; > #X connect 0 0 1 0; > #X connect 0 0 1 1; > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >

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RE: [PD]render Gem video 2 disk
by paris＠parisgraphics.com 26 Jan '07

26 Jan '07

Hi Nikola, Check out [pix_write] i use this to save to a series of images that you can put together into a movie. Best, p > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [PD]render Gem video 2 disk > From: Nikola Jeremic <nikola.jeremic(a)googlemail.com> > Date: Fri, January 26, 2007 11:01 am > To: pd-list(a)iem.at > > hi list > > short question about GEM. How 2 render my Gem window as any kind of > video or animation? > > thanx > Nikola > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

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RE: [PD]render Gem video 2 disk
by paris＠parisgraphics.com 26 Jan '07

26 Jan '07

maybe pdp is better suited for what you are doing? best, p > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: RE: [PD]render Gem video 2 disk > From: Oli44 <oli44(a)manga-burgah.net> > Date: Fri, January 26, 2007 12:35 pm > To: paris(a)parisgraphics.com > Cc: PD List send <pd-list(a)iem.at> > > Le vendredi 26 janvier 2007 à 10:12 -0700, paris(a)parisgraphics.com a écrit : > Yes, forgot to mention [pix_record] > > For me... it was too expensive to be rendering and [pix_record]ing for > my machine. > > I was able to get much better results with a series of stills via > [pix_write] but your experience may be different. > > > yes, it's VERY cpu-consuming but i need it in an upcoming project in which live camera sequences automagically reappear in a kind of making-of at the end of the performance. I foudn it somewhat tricky to have a stream of pictures reencoded afterwards to be played via pix_film later on, while Gem keeps playing. So I chose to record the gemwin straight as a MOVie. > > L8r > > O. > > > Best, > p > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > Subject: Re: [PD]render Gem video 2 disk > > From: Oli44 <oli44(a)manga-burgah.net> > > Date: Fri, January 26, 2007 11:44 am > > To: Nikola Jeremic <nikola.jeremic(a)googlemail.com> > > Cc: PD List send <pd-list(a)iem.at> > > > > You should have a look at [pix_record] . I had to recompile it from the CVS in order to have it work (Linux). Read it works fine on osx though. > > > > [pix_write] makes a snapshot (still images) [pix_record] generates video files (no sound). > > > > OpenGL objects arent recorded, you've got to pixelise them before. > > > > ++ > > > > O. > > > > > > Le vendredi 26 janvier 2007 17:01 +0100, Nikola Jeremic a crit : > > hi list > > > > short question about GEM. How 2 render my Gem window as any kind of > > video or animation? > > > > thanx > > Nikola > > > > _______________________________________________ > > PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > > PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > >

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RE: [PD]render Gem video 2 disk
by paris＠parisgraphics.com 26 Jan '07

26 Jan '07

Yes, forgot to mention [pix_record] For me... it was too expensive to be rendering and [pix_record]ing for my machine. I was able to get much better results with a series of stills via [pix_write] but your experience may be different. Best, p > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [PD]render Gem video 2 disk > From: Oli44 <oli44(a)manga-burgah.net> > Date: Fri, January 26, 2007 11:44 am > To: Nikola Jeremic <nikola.jeremic(a)googlemail.com> > Cc: PD List send <pd-list(a)iem.at> > > You should have a look at [pix_record] . I had to recompile it from the CVS in order to have it work (Linux). Read it works fine on osx though. > > [pix_write] makes a snapshot (still images) [pix_record] generates video files (no sound). > > OpenGL objects arent recorded, you've got to pixelise them before. > > ++ > > O. > > > Le vendredi 26 janvier 2007 à 17:01 +0100, Nikola Jeremic a écrit : > hi list > > short question about GEM. How 2 render my Gem window as any kind of > video or animation? > > thanx > Nikola > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >

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Pure Data on Linux (Debian) - what should I install?
by David Powers 26 Jan '07

26 Jan '07

Hello everyone ... SO, I finally got Linux installed on an old laptop (Debian stable distribution). Or to be more precise, my girlfriend got it installed, and I sat around drinking beer, smoking spliffs, and telling her how great she was, while she recompiled the kernel. I would, of course, be interested in running Pure Data on the machine. (and maybe trying Desire Data too.) But here are some caveats: 1. It's an old PIII laptop. Not much memory, and no openGL for graphics, so no GEM I guess. 2. I have no f&*$ing clue what I'm doing yet, as far as compiling stuff and all that. My gf will try to help me though. Now, I would like to use PD, and maybe PD-extended (but page is down). So I'd like to get the group recommendation on which version to try for the simplest install with the most stuff working... My basic interests would include some of the basic libraries at least (cyclone, maxlib, zexy). I would also like to try PMPD, PDP, and GridFlow, but I don't know much about the last two. They will run without openGL, unlike GEM, right? Also, I'd like to get Percolate running, I guess I'll have to use the source code off the Planet CCRMA... Anyway, there seem to be millions of versions of stuff, including some Debian stable options, but as a total Linux newB it is hard to tell which I should use. The problem is compounded by the fact that right now, some sites are down, so I can't get some of the info need. Any advice would be greatly appreciated - I didn't find a quick answer through the archives, and I don't know how up to date such an answer would be anyway. Thanks in advance!!! ~David

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Re: [Microsound-announce] IanniX 0.639b online
by Kyle Klipowicz 26 Jan '07

26 Jan '07

It would be great if you included corresponding iannix files (xml?) with your Pd examples. I'm not sure how to use these interesting patches with the program! ~Kyle On 1/20/07, Thierry Coduys <Thierry.Coduys(a)la-kitchen.fr> wrote: > Hi > > IanniX 0.639b is now online with new examples : > > http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=174402 > > Any feedback, comment, bug report, etc, would be greatly appreciated > and can be posted to the following mailing-list: > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/iannix-discussion > > The IanniX Team. > > _______________________________________________ > Microsound-announce mailing list > Microsound-announce(a)microsound.nexthop.net > http://or8.net/mailman/listinfo/microsound-announce > -- http://theradioproject.com http://perhapsidid.blogspot.com (((())))(()()((((((((()())))()(((((((())()()())()))) (())))))(()))))))))))))(((((((((((()()))))))))((()))) ))(((((((((((())))())))))))))))))))__________ _____())))))(((((((((((((()))))))))))_______ ((((((())))))))))))((((((((000)))oOOOOOO

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