Pd-list April 2006

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[OT] originality (was Re: [PD] Analog/good-sounding oscillators in PD)
by Chris McCormick 14 Apr '06

14 Apr '06

On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 11:38:16AM +0200, pd-list-request(a)iem.at wrote: > Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 00:29:40 -0400 (EDT) > From: Mathieu Bouchard <matju(a)artengine.ca> > Subject: Re: [PD] Analog/good-sounding oscillators in PD > > It's because originality is not valued by the mainstream. I doubt very much that this statement is generally true. Current economic models aren't always optimised for bringing originality to the mainstream, and the mainstream is too lazy/busy to go out and seek it, but that doesn't mean that they don't value it. All that is changing though, with new distribution and targetted marketing models. Check out these links: <http://www.aip.org/pnu/2004/split/709-1.html> <http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/12.10/tail.html> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_tail> Best, Chris. ------------------- chris(a)mccormick.cx http://mccormick.cx

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Help with "pack" -- this time with patch attached
by cyborgk＠nocturnalnoize.com 13 Apr '06

13 Apr '06

Sorry, here is the patch that doesn't work! ~David

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Mp3's in pd
by Alex Golubitsky 13 Apr '06

13 Apr '06

Hi, First off I am n00b on pd and the list, so I apologize if this addressed elsewhere. I am building an mp3 mixer in pd, because all commercial ones are too expensive and stink, as far as I can tell. I have been using mp3play~ to load mp3s and it works fine, except it only loads layer III mp3s. This is alright, but I have a lot of music in a lot of different mp3 and m4a formats. I have read about readanysf~ but I am unsure if it is better for this than mp3play~ and what I need to download to use it. I am also curious if there is any knows a better way to do this using JACK. I am running Pd version 0.38.4-extended-RC8 on OS X 10.3. Thanks a lot! Alex

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Subject [PD] Close this window?
by adam armfield 13 Apr '06

13 Apr '06

yeah i've been finding this a bit of a chore too, i think only prompting if the window has been altered is a fair comprimise (and perhaps bringing up "do you want to save?" instead of do you want to close?) also on my pretty please pd request list is a "define shortcut keys mode" - i prefer just being able to press ctl-1 for an object rather than ctl-shift-1 - don't want to start a flame war on the merits of either, thought having a preferences file for individual pd wranglers to choose would be a way to keep everyone happy and today i got to thinking that i'd like some kind of easy record mode... just to be able to press a key and have the current sounds playing recorded to file until i press the key again... and the audio files incrementally named automatically so that it requires no user intervention at the point of finding stuff, and no need to patch in a recording object.. this sounds like an abstraction that i'm fixing to make but i thought it would be a great feature to have built into the app. all the best adam --------------------------------- Yahoo! Cars NEW - sell your car and browse thousands of new and used cars online search now ---------------------------------

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Pure data and jack (or other) synchronisation
by Olivier Revollat 13 Apr '06

13 Apr '06

Hello, I would like to know if it's possible to sync pure data with jack (as master or slave) ... I mean for exemple to send "Bang" or "play" when play button is press in qjackctl and "bang" or "stop" when the stop button is pressed .... It's also useful for plaing in sync with other software hydrogen for exemple (a drum machine for linux) And in general, I'm interested in all synchronisation possibilities, ex : metro control from other sources ... Thanks a lot. _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/

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i really need help with DS
by josue moreno 13 Apr '06

13 Apr '06

Hi list, im doing a new piece and i would like to use PdÅ½s Data Structures, i think is the only way to deal with the idea i got...The problem is that my skill is very little programing with Pd... I have a loop with a sample and i want to use DS for control what partial is sounding and when it starts and stops(some kind of multi bandpass-bandreject). Maybe is better using FFT. Another thing i want to do on this piece is to generate diferents reverberations levels and panoramics for an autogenerating melody, and id like to control it with DS also. Id been looking some examples like Gregs Tutorial, Franks and Hans ones also but i think iÅ½m too much newbie... Is there some abstractions that can do that or some good idea-advice? Thanks a lot to all (hope i explained it...)

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Analog/good-sounding oscillators in PD
by cyborgk＠nocturnalnoize.com 13 Apr '06

13 Apr '06

Hello everyone, I'm working on a set of abstractions that will allow users to easily sequence rhythmic-pattern style music; basically, to make it easy to create IDM/electro/minimal-techno style stuff. Anyway, there's one major weakness to the whole project: PD oscillators don't sound good! Also, the filters I've tried don't sound very analog at all. So, my question is: 1. Does anyone have any good, "analog-sounding" oscillators already created? I guess I only need saw, PWM square, and triangle, but they need to sound GOOD (like Reaktor, basically). I see how to do simple versions from the example patches, but I don't know enough DSP to get rid of the digital sound. For a great example of the kind of sound I want, check out: Asynth vst from antti at smartelectronix. http://antti.smartelectronix.com/ 2. What would be the most analog sounding filter to use? 3. Is wavetable synthesis a reasonable option? How do I create a custom table to use for such synthesis? For example, if I synthesize a wave of one period in another program, how long should it be? I know this should be easy, but my brain is broken on this question. My gut instinct is that a wavetable would only sound good near original frequency or you just get the typical digital artifacts from pitch-shifting a sample... is that correct? I'm guessing what I'm really talking about is ROMpler style multi-sampling, and selecting the wave closest to input frequency. Don't know if anyone built this already. Btw, I can solve the problem for myself by loading in the VST~ external, but I want what I build to be cross-platform so that it is most useful to interested people in the community.

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calling all newbies! intro tutorial
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 13 Apr '06

13 Apr '06

I just finished a decently flushed out sketch of an intro tutorial and I would love some feedback. Give it a shot: http://puredata.org/Members/hans/downloads/intro_tutorial_2006-04-12.zip There is still a lot of material to cover, but this covers the foundations. Plus there should be more exercises. .hc ________________________________________________________________________ ____ "The arc of history bends towards justice." - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

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send locally
by hard off 13 Apr '06

13 Apr '06

i have run into a small problem with a new abstraction that i use to load files into tables. the abstraction is called loadrun.pd , and inside this abstraction is a subpatch that makes a number of tables. at the moment, these tables are being sent to pd-loadrun.pd but, i want to open several instances of this abstraction at once. the problem is how to send stuff from a subpatch to the abstraction, without sending it to all other copies of the abstraction? i think i read somewhere about a local send object , (maybe in zexy?) ....but i can't remember. any hints?

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start up error
by Falk Grieffenhagen.de 12 Apr '06

12 Apr '06

Hi List, For some reason pd is not starting up anymore on windows after running very stable for quite a while. I get this error: http://www.grieffenhagen.de/stuff/error_pd.JPG. I tried to reinstall it: (Hans christophs 0.38.4extended.RC7) Any hints? Thanks Falk

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