Pd-list December 2006

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acid
by Chris McCormick 14 Aug '14

14 Aug '14

Hi, Another question in a very general vein. I asked this on the Csound list a while back (when i was using csound) with good results. I'm trying to produce an acidy type sound (eg 303) and having trouble as my current saw-tooth-through-a-vcf just sounds pretty wimpy. Any ideas on how to fatten it up a bit? I'm not looking for a perfect reproduction of the 303 sound, just a nice acid sound. Hints? Tips? Is there some place where people post interesting Pd patches they've created for others to download at try out? Should there be? Regards, Chris. ______________________________________________________ Chris McCormick - Systems Developer - PerthWeb Pty Ltd Internet Solutions for your business! Level 9/105 St George's Tc - Perth - Western Australia Ph: (08) 9226 1366 Fax: (08) 9226 1375 Visit Perth online! : www.perthweb.com.au PGP Key = http://www.perthweb.com.au/~chris/public.txt

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granular synthesis
by hard off 21 Aug '09

21 Aug '09

anyone wanna share some granular synth patches???? i'm gonna make one, but it'd be good to have some points of reference. come on!

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and it's PR/Marketing, or those
by Adrian 23 Nov '08

23 Nov '08

I'm sorry for this more like OT, it's just my thought about improving PD and it's externals in another way. I'm struggling ... PD is one of the best tools for making people learn/experiment/perform/interact digital/electronic art at it's best. But where are the people that are PD's target. I'm trying to suggest that PD should try to follow a Popper-alike way of developing. Make it easy accessable for the people and use their input. Except if PD and it's externals are purely egoistic developments, which i don't think is the case ;) The more people you can involve the more feedback/developer/help you get in improving. I'm sorry for saying such things, as it is something that is an actual idea of most of the people here, i'm not trying to sell you for stupid. Maybe i'm just frustrated about my own lack of skill. I was fascinated about projects like pdp, gridflow and especially desiredata. But installing them is a hell for me as a OS X user, and the least i wanna do is search/install for all the necessary things. Now just some suggestions (excuse me for being rude): - Vastly improvement of the webcommunity, very important: Except for a very good maillinglist there is no real source for a community for pd on the net. The forum at hurleur.com is a joke, and that the official site is deadland is just sad. Furthermore the site needs to be ordered and probably hardly overworked, there is nothing wrong in making it accesible to as many people as possible by runnig it in plone, but is it nessecary? The people accesing the site now will probably not need that the site is universible compatible with every last browser on this earth and history, etc. - Improvement in usability of PD & e(xternals): Projects like the installers of iOhannes and desiredata are genial! All externals should follow a path where they can make themself accesible to the public with ease. It must be very frustrating to put lot's of effort and time into something and then nobody wants it. - And last, the documentation: Order, Unifying, Improve Please don't kill me for this mail. Lately i had a message in a Fortune-Cookie saying that "i have a reputation for being very straight forward and honest", i agree and want to follow that path. This mail is not meant to flame or criticize, especially not the developers. I bow down in front of the huge effort all of you put into PD & e. I just think the way of opening and easy accessing the public is the best way in proving that PD is the best and drive it's development. yours, adrian -- another incomplete website: http://conficere.ch/pds

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Re: py crash WAS Re: [PD-dev] Re: file library WAS: [folder_list]
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 19 Jun '08

19 Jun '08

I'd like to help, but I am not going to have time. I'll be on tour starting Sat. for two months. Any flext people want to try to get flext builds in Pd-extended? There could also be a Pd-devel-extended without too much work. Jamie had talked about it in the past. .hc On Apr 11, 2006, at 5:24 AM, Thomas Grill wrote: > > Am 11.04.2006 um 00:52 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: > >> >> All are fresh downloads of the binaries from your site. This >> happens with Pd-0.38.4-extended, Pd-0.39.2-extended-test1, and the >> new build with fresh downloads. > > The binaries are not up to date and i'm sure that the relevant > fixes have been afterwards. Please try the cvs versions. Building > the stuff is a cinch. > >> >> Have you tried with Pd-extented and that org.puredata.pd.plist >> file? I have reproduced this on 3 or 4 Mac OS X machines by >> installing Pd-extended, installing the included >> org.puredata.pd.list, starting Pd and loading a [py] or [pool] >> object. >> > > Yes, I tried and i will do once again when i find the time. Please > note that I don't use the Pd-extended build (because i'm rather > using Pd-devel) so i can't follow the problems associated with that. > >> Mac OS X doesn't catch the crash, so it doesn't pop up the crash >> dump. Any other way to get it? > > What about the proposals Jamie made? > > greetings, > Thomas > > > > Thomas Grill > http://grrrr.org > ________________________________________________________________________ ____ ¡El pueblo unido jamás será vencido!

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GEM to SVG/EPS/PDF
by timon 23 Sep '07

23 Sep '07

Hi, I came across this, GL2PS: an OpenGL to PostScript printing library. If it could be incorporated it would make a great addition to the Gem. Dont know anything on how to build PD objects though (sorry, sounds a bit arrogant). Anyway, if its of interest. http://www.geuz.org/gl2ps/ Timon

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py/pyext missing in pd-extended
by Carlos Pita 31 May '07

31 May '07

Hi all! Is py/pyext supposed to be included in pd-extended distribution? I have downloaded and installed both a snapshot of 39.2 and the stable 38.4 but, although they include the examples and documentation of py external, neither of them includes py.pd_linux. See: tried /site/install/Pd-0.39.2-extended/lib/pd/doc/examples/py/scripts/py.pd_linux and failed tried /site/install/Pd-0.39.2-extended/lib/pd/extra/py.pd_linux and failed tried /site/install/bin/py/py.pd_linux and failed tried /site/install/Pd-0.39.2-extended/lib/pd/doc/examples/py/scripts/py/py.pd_linux and failed tried /site/install/Pd-0.39.2-extended/lib/pd/extra/py/py.pd_linux and failed tried /site/install/bin/py/py.pd and failed tried /site/install/Pd-0.39.2-extended/lib/pd/doc/examples/py/scripts/py/py.pd and failed tried /site/install/Pd-0.39.2-extended/lib/pd/extra/py/py.pd and failed py: can't load library or: memeplex:/site/install/bin$ find ../Pd-0.38.4-extended/ -name '*py*' ../Pd-0.38.4-extended/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/maxlib/arraycopy-help.pd ../Pd-0.38.4-extended/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/unauthorized/blm/be_happy.blm ../Pd-0.38.4-extended/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/vasp/vasp_ccopy.pd ../Pd-0.38.4-extended/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/vasp/vasp_copy.pd ../Pd-0.38.4-extended/lib/pd/doc/examples/pmpd/06_pyramide3D.pd ../Pd-0.38.4-extended/lib/pd/doc/examples/py ../Pd-0.38.4-extended/lib/pd/doc/examples/py/scripts/buffer.py ../Pd-0.38.4-extended/lib/pd/doc/examples/py/scripts/pak.py ../Pd-0.38.4-extended/lib/pd/doc/examples/py/scripts/script.py ../Pd-0.38.4-extended/lib/pd/doc/examples/py/scripts/sendrecv.py ../Pd-0.38.4-extended/lib/pd/doc/examples/py/scripts/sig.py ../Pd-0.38.4-extended/lib/pd/doc/examples/py/scripts/simple.py ../Pd-0.38.4-extended/lib/pd/doc/examples/py/scripts/tcltk.py ../Pd-0.38.4-extended/lib/pd/doc/examples/py/scripts/threads.py ../Pd-0.38.4-extended/lib/pd/doc/manuals/py ../Pd-0.38.4-extended/lib/pd/extra/arraycopy.pd_linux ../Pd-0.38.4-extended/lib/pd/extra/maxlib/arraycopy.pd_linux memeplex:/site/install/bin$ Thank you in advance. Regards, Carlos __________________________________________________ PreguntÃ¡. RespondÃ©. DescubrÃ. Todo lo que querÃas saber, y lo que ni imaginabas, estÃ¡ en Yahoo! Respuestas (Beta). Â¡Probalo ya! http://www.yahoo.com.ar/respuestas

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Re: [PD] Connection with sensors - new devices?
by Koray Tahiroglu 15 May '07

15 May '07

I've been using arduino with PD heavily since the beginning of December, I am happy with the ready sensor connections as well as self made sensors. And Arduino is an open source microcontroller hardware, http://www.arduino.cc/ cheers, Koray. On Dec 20, 2005, at 7:55 PM, pd-list-request(a)iem.at wrote: > > There are also the arduino and wiring boards that talk nicely with > many progs. > ----------------- M.Koray Tahiroglu Media Lab, University of Art and Design Helsinki, TaiK Hameentie 135C 00560 Helsinki Finland http://mlab.uiah.fi/~korayt/ http://purenoise.uiah.fi:8000/ tel: +358 40 754 8449 fax: +358 9 75630 555

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GEM GOP abstractions
by Chris McCormick 29 Apr '07

29 Apr '07

Grtz, I've been messing with GEM lately and have made a bunch of GOP abstractions to make things easier. You can find then in the tarball of my cvs which is at: http://mccormick.cx/viewcvs/s-abstractions.tar.gz?view=tar The gfx stuff is in the sx/ directory and works best if you include the parent directory (s-abstractions/) in your path. You'll need the zexy (for [repeat]) and Gem libraries. I have always found it strange how GEM seems to be kind of backwards in terms of the flow of data. In Pd you generally make a noise with e.g. [osc~] and then run it through some effects, into your [dac~] where it is output. In GEM it works the opposite way. You have to place all your color, translate, rotate, repeat, texture "effects" before you put the basic geom such as [cube], and the whole chain starts with the "output" [gemhead]. To address this I've been experimenting with a method of storing geometry in a [list] which is sent through geometry modifying "effects" to an object [sx/blob] which draws geometry represented as a list of verticies of triangles, to the screen. It's pretty crap and slow, and I'd love to know if there is already a better way of doing this. You can send arbitrary geometry from blender3d into puredata by using the script in the utils/ directory. Copy it into your .blender/scripts/ directory and go File... Export... Raw Triangles across the Net... whilst having sx/netgeom-help.pd open. You can't send very complex geometry or the whole thing starts to chug pretty badly, but I think it's a start for something better. An example of an effect on geometry is the sx/explode patch which translates all faces along their normals by some amount. This is all done as [list] math so it's hellishly slow on complex geometry. I am particularly interested to hear if there is a better, faster way of doing this [vector level geom manipulation] that I don't know about. I have been really inspired by the fijuu stuff and I would like to be able to do similar kinds of mesh warping from withing Pd and GEM. Best, Chris. ------------------- chris(a)mccormick.cx http://mccormick.cx

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ead~?
by pete mcpartlan 14 Apr '07

14 Apr '07

I've been reading obiwannabe's great tutorials, and he keeps using [ead~] where can i get this? Oh and I dont want to install a new version of PD, I'm in the middle of a big project and I don't want to risk some things changing. thanks, pete

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Re: [GEM-dev] Re: pix_video and dv1394 capture on Edgy
by Mathieu Bouchard 03 Feb '07

03 Feb '07

On Thu, 28 Dec 2006, Studio Zodiak wrote: > I tried to get 1394 running with ubuntu edgy without success also. > Maybe try using a webcam before you die of frustration. > I did. It changed my life : ) Both GEM and GridFlow would benefit from supporting a camera interface based on libraw1394, libavc1394, etc., instead of the rather unstable and deprecated direct interface to the kernel. Another possibility would be to support videojack/unicap as a uniform interface to cameras. I think that this might be a good idea because there's only so much effort that we can bother to do trying to support V4L1, V4L2, lib*1394.so (both DV and DC), (btw what is/was libdv1394? it doesn't exist on Ubuntu), and then SANE and... did I forget any? And then it's a good idea to have it in a separate thread/process (don't you love a V4L driver that doesn't support non-blocking mode and ignores SIGALRM ?). Despite those thoughts I still haven't had a look at unicap yet, still too many other things TODO first. _ _ __ ___ _____ ________ _____________ _____________________ ... | Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801 - http://artengine.ca/matju | Freelance Digital Arts Engineer, Montréal QC Canada

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