Pd-list March 2005

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small bug with audio dialog
by cyrille 23 Mar '05

23 Mar '05

hello, i just tried a RME fireface on a dell laptop, winXP. the sound card look ok. on startup, pd print about 20 input devices and about 20 output devices. the problem is that the media/audio settings dialog is not accesible : the error is : consistency check failed: audio dialog to long ok, it's not very important, but i think it's a bug. cyrille.

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openlab london gig - 1st April - opensource foolishness
by chun 23 Mar '05

23 Mar '05

hi there: a good opportunity to see lots of Pd and opensource audio/visual software in action in london on the first of April! and its FREE! beers not included:) OpenLab has organised its first gig at the Foundry (old street tube) and there will be lots of fun. 140 minutes (starts at 8pm) of opensource audio/visual madness! please do come and see/talk to us and make friends! for more information about the event, please visit http://www.pawfal.org/openlab/ set list: (audio) (visual) slick lister (Pd) & nebogeo (fluxus) sonicvariable (Pd) & oli (Gem) Jeremah (Pd) & acpi (pdp) yaxu paxo (SC) claudiusmaximus (Pd) & sonicvariable (Blinkenlights) mattin - (Pd) karl (Pd) & carlos (pdp) cheers CHUN

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single vs dual vs 64
by manolo cabezabolo 23 Mar '05

23 Mar '05

hi, i've using pd+gem for a while and i see my linux box using 99% cpu forever ;) ... and never working with rt cause it hangs my machine, it's time to buy a new computer, and my cuestion is about the pros and contras of diferent architectures :: AMD 3000+ can be, but i think it's not much better than my 1800 ... another is AMD 3000+ 64bits, all is working optimized for 64 bits in linux+pd ? i mean it's really a good choice? much more than 32 bits? and the last, but so expensive ;), is dual AMD Opteron, i supose here is the best for my ... but really it offers the results that i must to pay? mmm.... thanks. sorry if i ask something repeated and boring ... kbzbl. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/

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cyclone
by Orm Finnendahl 23 Mar '05

23 Mar '05

Hi, I try to convert a pretty old msp patch into pd and successfully installed cyclone ("this is cyclone 0.1, 53rd alpha build warning (miXed): matrix~ is raising itself..." showing up on startup). Unfortunately the original msp patch fails to load. it obviously can't deal with the text format of max. (lots of errors about "#P: no such object" and "classmaker: no method for 'vpatcher'" and such) How is it supposed to work? Do I have to convert the msp text files first into some pd digestable format, or does it have to do with the first error message "max: unknown message v2", showing some maybe unsupported patch format to cyclone? -- Orm

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[OT] Harware accelaration on ATI radeon 9000 (M9) for gem
by Andres Cabrera 23 Mar '05

23 Mar '05

Hi all, I'm making the switch to linux (FC2 planet CCRMA) for my gem projects, but haven't been able to get gem to run fast. (I assume I have no hardware acceleration since a simple movie playback with pix_film sends the cpu to the roof, and the playback is really slow- how can I check if I have hardware acceleration? xorg.0.log reports: (II) RADEON(0): Direct rendering disabled) I have built pd 0.39 and gem 0.90.0 from cvs. I've seen the proprietary ATI drivers that seem to need xorg 6.8: should I update to xorg 6.8 (current version is 6.7)? (is it safe on FC2 planet CCRMA?). Is there another route with free drivers? I'm not actually using planetCCRMA's builds for this, but the CCRMA builds have produced the same result. (btw, gem 0.90.0 is alot more stable than 0.888! (is it the lack of hardware acceleration?)) Cheers, Andrés PD. I might have broken something because I installed MESA from source (thinking it was needed for building gem), which I think replaces the GL libraries, however I forced installed xorg-devel and libs to the ccrma versions.

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Fw: [PD] resizing a GOP-canvas
by Roman Haefeli 23 Mar '05

23 Mar '05

hi i asked the list a few days ago about resizing dynamically the window of a subpatch, but suddenly got no answer. the ability to resize a GOP canvas would be also quite helpfull to what i'd like to do. since it seems, that this is not possible yet in pd, i will here and now place this as a request for pd>=0.39. is there a little chance that this will be coming soon? cheers roman, user of gop-resize-msgs in spe ;) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Frank Barknecht" <fbar(a)footils.org> > > > > Hallo, > > Orm Finnendahl hat gesagt: // Orm Finnendahl wrote: > > > > > is there a way to resize a GOP canvas by sending it a command (see > > > patch)? > > > > > > The sources say "no" but you never know ;-) > > > > I don't know any way to do this, but it could be very useful. Attached > > patch shows some more possible messages at least in pd-0.38 test > > (didn't test in 0.37.) > > > > Ciao > > -- > > Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__ > > > > _ __latest track: "scans" _ http://footils.org/cms/show/41 > > >

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PDa on HP IPAQ 5550
by derek holzer 22 Mar '05

22 Mar '05

Hi Guenter and the list, happy to report I've gotten Familiar 0.8.1 running on my IPAQ 5550 for a project I'm doing in conjuntion with STEIM: http://www.umatic.nl/projects_pandev.html I had a few questions/requests about using PDa: 1) The "PDa development environment" you mention on the PDa site, which you run on your desk/laptop to make PDa patches... when is that available? 2) What about externals? I'm particularly interested in your [shell] object, and also in using OSC on the IPAQ. 3) Is it normal that the GUI is messed up? In my case, "messed up" means that number boxes do not display anything, and when I create a new object, the name of that object gets typed in the upper-left corner of the screen and never appears within the graphical bounds of the object. Add more objects and the names just pile on top of each other. Also, the file browser is messed up in that all the folder names also pile up in the upper left. Is it possible this is a TCL/TK error? I used the 8.4.9 versions you provided on your site, and downloaded and installed them manually (ipkg install tcl.blah.ipk tk.blah.ipk pda.blah.ipk) rather than through the ipkg src repository. 4) Any way to "right-click" objects in PDa for properties, etc? Or is that why the "development" version is so so handy? Looking forward to further experiments! derek -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 48: "Discover your formulas and abandon them"

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more pix_write
by wollscheid 22 Mar '05

22 Mar '05

Hi list and Iohannes - another pix_write question. I notice pix_write needs the buffer (i.e. the actual picture on the screen) to write data to disc. Is it possible to write any GEM data without GUI? (background - I'm running pd on a server project www.imaginary-soundscapes.net along with the audio data generated realtime on the server and streamed I want to generate visual data and stream likewise). Cheers Achim

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controlling PDa
by derek holzer 22 Mar '05

22 Mar '05

Hi Guenter. in this paper: http://gige.xdv.org/pda/ICMC2003.pdf you mention two "alternate" ways of controlling PDa: a serial connection to external controllers and gestural/handwriting recognition. I was wondering if you could provide a bit more information about the second (handwriting recognition) and perhaps some known implementations on the IPAQ of the former (serial input). I've been investigating GPS input via Bluetooth/serial connection, and Joel Ryan at STEIM says he used IPAQs a while ago as wireless relays for accelerometers attached to dancers (this was before they got into hacking wireless game controllers, a technique they have really perfected as of late!), so there's at least a couple of known implementations from my end. best, derek -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 23: "Breathe more deeply"

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[Fwd: HARVARD LIVE ELECTRONIC MUSIC COMPETITION 2006]
by Pall Thayer 22 Mar '05

22 Mar '05

Thought I would share this with my fine fellow listers. What's especially interesting is this line, "This year, the live electronics focus is on the creative use of Max/MSP or PureData." A couple of years ago, they would only have mentioned Max/MSP, therefore we can assume that in a couple of years or so they'll leave out the Max/MSP part ;-) Pall -------- Original Message -------- Subject: HARVARD LIVE ELECTRONIC MUSIC COMPETITION 2006 Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:35:50 +0100 From: Hans Tutschku <listen2(a)tutschku.com> To: forum(a)listes.ircam.fr I'm sending you herewith the call for a new competition in case you didn't read it already. Please feel free to copy it to interested composers, students etc. Best, Hans Tutschku Harvard University Studio for Electroacoustic Composition LIVE ELECTRONIC MUSIC COMPETITION 2006 The Harvard University Studio for Electroacoustic Composition is proud to present its first INTERNATIONAL COMPOSITION COMPETITION FOR LIVE ELECTRONIC MUSIC. An international jury will evaluate all works that arrive before the deadline (September 15th, 2005) and will select up to six works to be performed during the Fromm Players at Harvard Concerts, March 6 through March 12, 2006. The six finalists will participate in a week-long festival, work with the performers, attend workshops on all six pieces and participate in several pedagogical events along with the composition students at Harvard University and the jury members. The final concert will be on March 12th, at which time the jury will award one grand prize. The competition will cover flight and hotel expenses for the six finalists. WORKS We invite submissions of new works (written after January 1, 2004) incorporating two to four live performers and live-electronics by composers born after January 1, 1965. The live performers should be drawn from the following list: soprano (voice), flute, clarinet, violin, violoncello, piano. Although there is no strict limit to duration, pieces between ten and fifteen minutes are encouraged. The work submitted may have been performed in concert. However, it must not have been released in recorded form and must not have been awarded a prize before September 15, 2005. If a recording exists, it may be sent along with other materials, but recordings are not required. LIVE ELECTRONICS This year, the live electronics focus is on the creative use of Max/MSP or PureData. The composition may make use of sixteen output channels and will be diffused during the concert on the Hydra Diffusion System (24 loudspeakers). A complete, functioning patch containing all necessary elements and an explanatory note for its use should be included in the application together with the score. WORKSHOP The workshop will be an open platform for the exchange of ideas between composers and performers, emphasizing the practical issues raised by performance of live-electronic music. The six selected compositions will be rehearsed as a part of this workshop. There will also be lectures given by the jury members. SUBMISSIONS Applicants are invited to submit one composition. There is no entry fee. Student works are highly encouraged. Selected works will be announced by November 1, 2005. Composers whose works are selected for the final workshop and concert are required to attend the entire week of March 6 through March 12, 2006. Should a composer be unable to attend, their work will not be presented. Selected composers must send parts by January 3, 2006 and a photo (free of copyright). The decisions of the jury are final. * Submissions must arrive before September 15, 2005. * Include THREE COPIES of the score, the materials for the live-electronic part, and any further documents pertaining to the submitted piece. * Include a completed entry form (available for download at http://huseac.fas.harvard.edu/). * Include a program note and a biography of the composer. * Materials will not be returned and will become the property of the HUSEAC archive. * The competition will not pay for any postage fees or customs duties. Harvard University Studio for Electroacoustic Composition LIVE ELECTRONIC MUSIC COMPETITION Department of Music Music Building, North Yard Cambridge, MA 02138–2001 USA For more information email compcomp(a)fas.harvard.edu. DOWNLOAD THE ENTRY FORM (PDF) from the website http://huseac.fas.harvard.edu/ ____________________________________________ Hans Tutschku Associate Professor of Music and Director of the Harvard University Studio for Electroacoustic Composition (HUSEAC) Harvard University Department of Music Cambridge, MA 02138 USA -- _______________________________ Pall Thayer artist/teacher http://www.this.is/pallit http://pallit.lhi.is/panse Lorna http://www.this.is/lorna _______________________________

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Pd-list March 2005