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Problems with Framestein
by Nuno Godinho 07 Dec '05

07 Dec '05

Hi, I gave Framestein a try but got some problems. What I need to do for an interactive video project is quite simple: just blend between two images. I have two problems: 1) I tried your "blending" example and it works VERY slowly. When I tried to increase the framerate to over 20fps the thing just stalled. My videocard is quite good (ATI 9600) and the size of both videos is so small. I guess something must be wrong with my instalation of Framestein, right? 2) I tried to drop a DV encoded AVI and it didn't play. It plays DivX but it doesn't play DV files captured directly from my videocamera. I read somewhere that Framestein should play without problems any clip that plays in WindowsMediaPlayer. But I can play DV files in WMP without any problem. What should I do? Can anyone help me? My alternative is: Go and buy Jitter :P Thanks in advance, Nuno

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HOWTO: Building Pd+extended on Windows
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 06 Dec '05

06 Dec '05

I have been working on getting everything compiling on Windows using MinGW. So far, its working much better than my experiences with MSVC. All of the externals in externals/build/src compile using MinGW (if you have all the libs installed) while MSVC could only compile about half. I have gotten Pd compiling using MinGW, but there are still some kinks left in that process. Please give it a shot and let me know how it works for you: http://puredata.org/docs/developer/win .hc ________________________________________________________________________ ____ Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how to realize his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either change them, or perish. -William Carlos Williams

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Re: [CM] SND as a pd-external.
by shreeswifty 06 Dec '05

06 Dec '05

Now that frank can breathe again, is it only linux? On Tue Dec 06 16:19:22 EST 2005, Frank Barknecht <fbar(a)footils.org> wrote: > Hallo, > Kjetil S. Matheussen hat gesagt: // Kjetil S. Matheussen wrote: > >> By ./configuring snd with the --with-snd-as-pd-external flag, >> you can use SND as a pd external. Check out the help-snd.pd patch >> for examples of use. > > Now that I can breathe again, I have a quick question: Is > guile-1.7 > required? Ciao > -- Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ > __goto10.org__ > > _______________________________________________ > Cmdist mailing list > Cmdist(a)ccrma.stanford.edu > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/cmdist > > Patrick Pagano,M.F.A Digital Media Specialist Digital Worlds Institute University Of Florida (352) 294-2082

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Re: [CM] SND as a pd-external.
by Frank Barknecht 06 Dec '05

06 Dec '05

Hallo, Kjetil S. Matheussen hat gesagt: // Kjetil S. Matheussen wrote: > By ./configuring snd with the --with-snd-as-pd-external flag, > you can use SND as a pd external. Check out the help-snd.pd patch > for examples of use. Now that I can breathe again, I have a quick question: Is guile-1.7 required? Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__

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problems compiling GRiPD
by federico 06 Dec '05

06 Dec '05

i am trying to build gripd from source (to make an ebuild for it). I installed python-2.2 as makefile required it (obviously I am running Linux) make -f Makefile.Linux all make[1]: Entering directory `/var/tmp/portage/pd_gripd-0.1.1/work/gripd/src' cc -DPD -O2 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -W -Wshadow -Wstrict-prototypes -Werror -Wno-unused -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch -I../../src -o gripd.o -c gripd.c ld -export_dynamic -lm -shared -o gripd.pd_linux gripd.o -lc -lm ld: warning: creating a DT_TEXTREL in object. strip --strip-unneeded gripd.pd_linux cp gripd.pd_linux .. cc -c joystick.c cc -I/usr/include/python2.2 -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H joystick_wrap.c ld -shared joystick.o joystick_wrap.o -o joystickmodule.so ld: warning: creating a DT_TEXTREL in object. cp joystickmodule.so .. echo "joystick = "TRUE > ../gripd.opt make -f Makefile.midiioLibrary.ALSA make[2]: Entering directory `/var/tmp/portage/pd_gripd-0.1.1/work/gripd/src' mkdir -p ./midiio/obj g++ -Wall -c -O3 -DLINUX -DALSA -I./midiio/include -o ./midiio/obj/FileIO.o ./midiio/src/FileIO.cpp g++ -Wall -c -O3 -DLINUX -DALSA -I./midiio/include -o ./midiio/obj/MidiFile.o ./midiio/src/MidiFile.cpp In file included from ./midiio/include/Array.h:59, from ./midiio/include/MidiFile.h:22, from ./midiio/src/MidiFile.cpp:17: ./midiio/include/Array.cpp: In member function `void Array<type>::setAll(type)': ./midiio/include/Array.cpp:65: error: there are no arguments to `getSize' that depend on a template parameter, so a declaration of `getSize' must be available ./midiio/include/Array.cpp:65: error: (if you use `-fpermissive', G++ will accept your code, but allowing the use of an undeclared name is deprecated) ./midiio/include/Array.cpp:66: error: `array' undeclared (first use this function) ./midiio/include/Array.cpp:66: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each function it appears in.) ./midiio/include/Array.cpp: In member function `type Array<type>::sum()': ./midiio/include/Array.cpp:80: error: there are no arguments to `getSize' that depend on a template parameter, so a declaration of `getSize' must be available ./midiio/include/Array.cpp:81: error: `array' undeclared (first use this function) ./midiio/include/Array.cpp: In member function `type Array<type>::sum(int, int)': ./midiio/include/Array.cpp:90: error: `array' undeclared (first use this function) ./midiio/include/Array.cpp: In member function `void Array<type>::zero(int, int)': ./midiio/include/Array.cpp:104: error: `size' undeclared (first use this function) ./midiio/include/Array.cpp:110: error: `cerr' undeclared (first use this function) ./midiio/include/Array.cpp:111: error: `endl' undeclared (first use this function) ./midiio/include/Array.cpp:116: error: `array' undeclared (first use this function) ./midiio/include/Array.cpp: In member function `int Array<type>::operator==(const Array<type>&)': ./midiio/include/Array.cpp:129: error: there are no arguments to `getSize' that depend on a template parameter, so a declaration of `getSize' must be available ./midiio/include/Array.cpp:134: error: there are no arguments to `getSize' that depend on a template parameter, so a declaration of `getSize' must be available ./midiio/include/Array.cpp: In member function `Array<type>& Array<type>::operator=(const Array<type>&)': ./midiio/include/Array.cpp:151: error: `allocSize' undeclared (first use this function) ./midiio/include/Array.cpp:153: error: `array' undeclared (first use this function) ./midiio/include/Array.cpp:156: error: `size' undeclared (first use this function) ./midiio/include/Array.cpp:158: error: `allowGrowthQ' undeclared (first use this function) ./midiio/include/Array.cpp:159: error: `growthAmount' undeclared (first use this function) ./midiio/include/Array.cpp:160: error: `maxSize' undeclared (first use this function) ./midiio/include/Array.cpp: In member function `Array<type>& Array<type>::operator+=(const Array<type>&)': ./midiio/include/Array.cpp:179: error: `size' undeclared (first use this function) ./midiio/include/Array.cpp:180: error: `cerr' undeclared (first use this function) ./midiio/include/Array.cpp:181: error: `endl' undeclared (first use this function) ./midiio/include/Array.cpp:186: error: `array' undeclared (first use this function) ./midiio/include/Array.cpp: In member function `Array<type> Array<type>::operator+(const Array<type>&) const': ./midiio/include/Array.cpp:201: error: `size' undeclared (first use this function) ./midiio/include/Array.cpp:202: error: `cerr' undeclared (first use this function) ./midiio/include/Array.cpp:203: error: `endl' undeclared (first use this function) ./midiio/include/Array.cpp: In member function `Array<type> Array<type>::operator+(type) const': ./midiio/include/Array.cpp:216: error: `size' undeclared (first use this function) ./midiio/include/Array.cpp: In member function `Array<type>& Array<type>::operator-=(const Array<type>&)': ./midiio/include/Array.cpp:231: error: `size' undeclared (first use this function) ./midiio/include/Array.cpp:232: error: `cerr' undeclared (first use this function) ./midiio/include/Array.cpp:233: error: `endl' undeclared (first use this function) ./midiio/include/Array.cpp:238: error: `array' undeclared (first use this function) ./midiio/include/Array.cpp: In member function `Array<type> Array<type>::operator-(const Array<type>&) const': ./midiio/include/Array.cpp:253: error: `size' undeclared (first use this function) ./midiio/include/Array.cpp:254: error: `cerr' undeclared (first use this function) ./midiio/include/Array.cpp:255: error: `endl' undeclared (first use this function) ./midiio/include/Array.cpp: In member function `Array<type> Array<type>::operator-() const': ./midiio/include/Array.cpp:268: error: `size' undeclared (first use this function) ./midiio/include/Array.cpp: In member function `Array<type> Array<type>::operator-(type) const': ./midiio/include/Array.cpp:277: error: `size' undeclared (first use this function) ./midiio/include/Array.cpp: In member function `Array<type>& Array<type>::operator*=(const Array<type>&)': ./midiio/include/Array.cpp:292: error: `size' undeclared (first use this function) ./midiio/include/Array.cpp:293: error: `cerr' undeclared (first use this function) ./midiio/include/Array.cpp:294: error: `endl' undeclared (first use this function) ./midiio/include/Array.cpp:299: error: `array' undeclared (first use this function) ./midiio/include/Array.cpp: In member function `Array<type> Array<type>::operator*(const Array<type>&) const': ./midiio/include/Array.cpp:314: error: `size' undeclared (first use this function) ./midiio/include/Array.cpp:315: error: `cerr' undeclared (first use this function) ./midiio/include/Array.cpp:316: error: `endl' undeclared (first use this function) ./midiio/include/Array.cpp: In member function `Array<type> Array<type>::operator*(type) const': ./midiio/include/Array.cpp:329: error: `size' undeclared (first use this function) ./midiio/include/Array.cpp: In member function `Array<type>& Array<type>::operator/=(const Array<type>&)': ./midiio/include/Array.cpp:342: error: `size' undeclared (first use this function) ./midiio/include/Array.cpp:343: error: `cerr' undeclared (first use this function) ./midiio/include/Array.cpp:344: error: `endl' undeclared (first use this function) ./midiio/include/Array.cpp:349: error: `array' undeclared (first use this function) ./midiio/include/Array.cpp: In member function `Array<type> Array<type>::operator/(const Array<type>&) const': ./midiio/include/Array.cpp:362: error: `size' undeclared (first use this function) ./midiio/include/Array.cpp:363: error: `cerr' undeclared (first use this function) ./midiio/include/Array.cpp:364: error: `endl' undeclared (first use this function) make[2]: *** [MidiFile.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/pd_gripd-0.1.1/work/gripd/src' make[1]: *** [midimodule.so] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/pd_gripd-0.1.1/work/gripd/src' make: *** [gripd_linux] Error 2 could someone help to solve this error?

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make problems in ubuntu [g_canvas]
by zcwaa22＠ucl.ac.uk 06 Dec '05

06 Dec '05

Apologies if this is a 2xpost, ive already sent this mail but nothing appeared on the list, probably because i hadnt subscribed... Hi, I hope this is the right place to post, im trying to install pd onto my laptop running ubuntu breezy 5.10. i get past the ./configure phase and the make depend [ which outputs "nothing to be bone for "depend"" ] but i get errors when i try to make [ or sudo make ] Here you go: will@ubuntu:~/downloads/pd_files/pd-0.39-1/src$ make cc -g -O2 -DPD -Wall -W -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-unused -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch -O6 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -DDL_OPEN -DPA_USE_OSS -DPA_LITTLE_ENDIAN -DUNIX -DUNISTD -DUSEAPI_OSS -I../portaudio/pa_common -I../portaudio/pablio -I../portmidi/pm_common -I../portmidi/pm_linux -fno-strict-aliasing -DPA_USE_ALSA -DUSEAPI_ALSA -DINSTALL_PREFIX=\"/bin\" -I. -c -o ../obj/g_canvas.o g_canvas.c Assembler messages: FATAL: can't create ../obj/g_canvas.o: No such file or directory make: *** [g_canvas.o] Error 1 Which is true there is no file g_canvas.o but there are files g_canvas.c and g_canvas.h in the src directory. Im new to linux but ive looked in the makefile and theres some stuff relating to .o and .c, heres the start of that: VPATH = ../obj:./ OBJ_DIR = ../obj BIN_DIR = ../bin PDEXEC = $(BIN_DIR)/pd EXT= pd_linux GUINAME= pd-gui INSTALL_PREFIX = /bin GFLAGS = -DINSTALL_PREFIX=\"$(INSTALL_PREFIX)\" MANDIR = ${prefix}/man MORECFLAGS = -DDL_OPEN -DPA_USE_OSS -DPA_LITTLE_ENDIAN -DUNIX -DUNISTD -DUSEAPI_OSS -I../portaudio/pa_common -I../portaudio/pablio -I../portmidi/pm_common -I../portmidi/pm_linux -fno-strict-aliasing -DPA_USE_ALSA -DUSEAPI_ALSA INCLUDE = -I. GINCLUDE = $(INCLUDE) -I/usr/include/tcl8.4 GLIB = -ltk8.4 -ltcl8.4 LDFLAGS = -Wl,-export-dynamic -lasound LIB = -ldl -lm -lpthread -lasound OPT_CFLAGS = -O6 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer WARN_CFLAGS = -Wall -W -Wstrict-prototypes \ -Wno-unused -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch ARCH_CFLAGS = -DPD CFLAGS = -g -O2 $(ARCH_CFLAGS) $(WARN_CFLAGS) $(OPT_CFLAGS) $(MORECFLAGS) # the sources SYSSRC += s_midi_oss.c s_audio_oss.c s_audio_alsa.c s_audio_alsamm.c s_midi_alsa.c SRC = g_canvas.c g_graph.c g_text.c g_rtext.c g_array.c g_template.c g_io.c \ g_scalar.c g_traversal.c g_guiconnect.c g_readwrite.c g_editor.c \ g_all_guis.c g_bang.c g_hdial.c g_hslider.c g_mycanvas.c g_numbox.c \ g_toggle.c g_vdial.c g_vslider.c g_vumeter.c \ m_pd.c m_class.c m_obj.c m_atom.c m_memory.c m_binbuf.c \ m_conf.c m_glob.c m_sched.c \ s_main.c s_inter.c s_file.c s_print.c \ s_loader.c s_path.c s_entry.c s_audio.c s_midi.c \ d_ugen.c d_ctl.c d_arithmetic.c d_osc.c d_filter.c d_dac.c d_misc.c \ d_math.c d_fft.c d_mayer_fft.c d_fftroutine.c d_array.c d_global.c \ d_delay.c d_resample.c \ x_arithmetic.c x_connective.c x_interface.c x_midi.c x_misc.c \ x_time.c x_acoustics.c x_net.c x_qlist.c x_gui.c x_list.c d_soundfile.c \ $(SYSSRC) OBJ = $(SRC:.c=.o) GSRC = t_main.c t_tkcmd.c GOBJ = $(GSRC:.c=.o) # Ive searched the net to try and find an answer to this and cant so if anyone could help that would be really great. Thanks Will ----- End forwarded message -----

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gem compiling on fc2
by megale 06 Dec '05

06 Dec '05

Hi, I am trying to install pure and many externals from CVS on a computer with fedora core 2 installed, gcc is the only c++ compiler, I have found none from the list above for my distro: configure:1597: checking for CC-g++ configure:1626: result: no configure:1597: checking for CC-c++ configure:1626: result: no configure:1597: checking for CC-gpp configure:1626: result: no configure:1597: checking for CC-aCC configure:1626: result: no configure:1597: checking for CC-CC configure:1626: result: no configure:1597: checking for CC-cxx configure:1626: result: no configure:1597: checking for CC-cc++ configure:1626: result: no configure:1597: checking for CC-cl configure:1626: result: no configure:1597: checking for CC-FCC configure:1626: result: no configure:1597: checking for CC-KCC configure:1626: result: no configure:1597: checking for CC-RCC configure:1626: result: no configure:1597: checking for CC-xlC_r configure:1626: result: no configure:1597: checking for CC-xlC configure:1626: result: no configure:1639: checking for g++ configure:1668: result: no configure:1639: checking for c++ configure:1668: result: no configure:1639: checking for gpp configure:1668: result: no configure:1639: checking for aCC configure:1668: result: no configure:1639: checking for CC configure:1668: result: no configure:1639: checking for cxx configure:1668: result: no configure:1639: checking for cc++ configure:1668: result: no configure:1639: checking for cl configure:1668: result: no configure:1639: checking for FCC configure:1668: result: no configure:1639: checking for KCC configure:1668: result: no configure:1639: checking for RCC configure:1668: result: no configure:1639: checking for xlC_r configure:1668: result: no configure:1639: checking for xlC configure:1668: result: no configure:1681: checking for C++ compiler version is there another adress than rpmfind to get that compiler or may I have missed something during compilation process? patco ___________________________________________________________________________ Appel audio GRATUIT partout dans le monde avec le nouveau Yahoo! Messenger TÃ©lÃ©chargez cette version sur http://fr.messenger.yahoo.com

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Re: [PD] Problems with Framestein
by shreeswifty 06 Dec '05

06 Dec '05

or use GEM...LOL. On Tue Dec 06 09:10:06 EST 2005, Georg Holzmann <grhPD(a)gmx.at> wrote: > Hallo! > > I don't know Framestein and it's not much discussion about it on > pd-list, so I guess that not much peope are using it ... > (and it's windows only ... :( > >> I gave Framestein a try but got some problems. What I need to do >> for an >> interactive video project is quite simple: just blend between >> two images. I >> have two problems: > i guess you are on windows: why don't you use gem? you could > blend your images with OpenGL ... which should be fast on a ATI > 9600 ... > >> 2) I tried to drop a DV encoded AVI and it didn't play. > i think it will work in gem too ... > >> Can anyone help me? My alternative is: Go and buy Jitter :P > or use gem ... ;) > > LG > Georg > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > Patrick Pagano,M.F.A Digital Media Specialist Digital Worlds Institute University Of Florida (352) 294-2082

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The Party at the Center of the Universe
by Pall Thayer 06 Dec '05

06 Dec '05

There are ratts at the party. It speaks now. I've been playing around with the ratts library :-) http://pallit.lhi.is/tpcu It's not in the downloadable source files yet but I'll put it there soon. -- Pall Thayer palli(a)pallit.lhi.is http://www.this.is/pallit

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Request for help with OSC-client.h/c and OSC-timetag.h/c
by Urs Liska 06 Dec '05

06 Dec '05

Hello list, this might be slightly off-topic as it isn't completely pd-specific. But I am primarily interested in it for pd use... Would anybody be able and willing to help me to make the OSC-client and OSC-timetag files from the OSC Kit (http://www.cnmat.berkeley.edu/OpenSoundControl/Kit/) accessible from Delphi by a) helping me translate it to Delphi or b) creating a wrapper (Windows) Dll around it. I would really like to be able to write GUIs for my pd patches with Delphi. I already made progress by separating a nongui 'engine' patch from a separate GUI patch communicating via OSC (which already is a great help to deal with complex patches), but I still feel somewhat limited by only using pd for a GUI, and with complex patches the GUI slows down quite remarkably (as we all know ;-( I know this is not quite a perfect approach for open source software because it could only reach a rather small amount of developers or users. But I thought it better to ask anyway ;-) What I might eventually release is a highly programmable Joystick-to-OSC(and MIDI?) mapper which could be useful to anybody working with joysticks to control pd. (Windows only if I won't find anybody to help me porting to Kylix). Thanks for any help Urs -- Urs Liska GlÃŒmerstr. 5 D-79102 Freiburg www.graft-music.com www.suonomobile.de [Pd 0.39.0, WinXP]

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