Pd-list January 2005

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pd extended crashes on nameless struct object
by David Marrs 05 Jan '05

05 Jan '05

Dear list, This is my first post to the list and I hope I was meant to post this here and not to the devel list. I checked the list before hand and this doesn't seem to be an already submitted bug. While fiddling around with structs I discovered that if a struct name is not given pd will crash. For example, [struct float x float y float abc] will crash as soon as I click anywhere outside the object. [struct structName float x] is ok. Typing [struct] by itself is ok too. By "crash" I mean that the application closes immediately without giving me any opportunity to save my working file. I am using the extended version of pd, not the original and I don't know if this problem is unique to this version or present in both. Happy hacking. :) Yours, David -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.7 - Release Date: 30/12/2004

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knob external?
by Boby Peru Dafoe 05 Jan '05

05 Jan '05

somebody knows where I can find the Frank Barknecht 's external "knob"? , I am looking for it in sourceforge.net and I don't get it...... does it run in Win xp? regards Chris --------------------------------- 250MB gratis, Antivirus y Antispam Correo Yahoo!, el mejor correo web del mundo AbrÃ tu cuenta aquÃ

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xorg + gem
by martin pichlmair 05 Jan '05

05 Jan '05

hi, i just reinstalled my system and thus got my first xorg x11 (as opposed to xfree86 x11) running. everything went quite smooth (for gentoo circumstances) yet when testing my standard pd libs i had a hard crash as soon as i opened a gem window - everything frozen. opengl (nvidia) works and 2d-acceleration is also fine. does anybody else have positive or negative experiences with xorg x11 + gem? especially on gentoo. lg martin

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Re: [PD] looking for an ADSR external
by matthew jones 05 Jan '05

05 Jan '05

well I'm no expert on this, I think vline~ is able to generate ramps who's start and end times can be sub-sample accurate. This I think, is quite similar to the iemlib [t3_line~]... It also has the added functionality of sending 'delayed' messages, ie. tell it to start ramping a second after it receives the message. Therefore it allows you to queue up lots of ramp commands, so you do not have to use many 'sub-sample accurate' [delay] blocks sending messages to the [vline~] in order to use its accuracy functionality. BTW: I'd second Tim's suggestion that a table lookup is a much better way of computing the log~/exp~ functions. In fact, I _think_ this is how Miller has chosen to compute the [mtof~] and [ftom~] functions (which are also logarithmic/exponential functions) when dealing with signals, shown in several of his examples... On loadbang, calculate and fill a high precision array with the precomputed [log] and [exp] functions for the range of values required (these can then use the control blocks for calculation, instead of audio!). Then just read and optionally interpolate the values (like feeding the [vline~] into a [tabread4~]). Hope this is, well, at least semi-accurate and of some help. Regards, Matt -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- http://www.loopit.org -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Federico" <xaero(a)inwind.it> To: "matthew jones" <mj(a)isvr.soton.ac.uk> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 1:02 PM Subject: Re: [PD] looking for an ADSR external > On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 12:02:47 -0000 > "matthew jones" <mj(a)isvr.soton.ac.uk> wrote: > >> But why not make your own abstraction with [vline~]?? > > i already made one (that outputs messages). > and making another (see my post asking for log~ exp~ objects)... > > but i used line~. > > what's the difference between [line~] and [vline~]?

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Re: [PD] Some music created with puredata
by Chris McCormick 05 Jan '05

05 Jan '05

> Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 12:09:25 +0100 > From: Frank Barknecht <fbar(a)footils.org> > To: pd-list(a)iem.at > Subject: Re: [PD] Some music created with puredata > > > my philosophy is sort opposite to your "only one border crossing". My > > GOP patches are total sluts and share all information via $1-named > > receives. > > This means that [s-moogfilter~ drumf] can receive cutoff value by > > [s-ucctl 9 drumf-cutoff] (assigns knob 9 to drumf cutoff). > > I decided against this philosophy, because the rradical patches are > intended as "libraries", too, so I want them to be as non-intrusive > into peoples existing patches as possible. However there still are > some kind of global sends, too, by using the OSC-formatted messages. It's probably a better idea. My GOP patches were started shortly before you announced rradical. One day I'll convert them. > I used this extensively in my UC33-enabled performance here: > http://footils.org/cms/show/36 Other people's patches always look so confusing. My sequencing is done using the abstraction [s-mseq] which turns a number in to a base-n encoded pattern. For example: [s-mseq 2 8 71] will take the number 71, treat it as an 8 beat bar of base-2 encoded beat. this means you'll get: 1 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 Which sounds nice as the bass drum component of a hip hop or drum and bass beat at 180 bpm. What's cool about this is that I can automatically express any basic drum beat as three integers (one for hi-hat, one for snare, one for bass drum). It makes algorithmic composition really nifty. I can set up 'attractors' which are nice sounding vectors on the three dimensional area of all possible snare beats, hat beats, and bass drum beats and then have an equation which flies between these attractors to make wicked sounding transitions. You can infact do the same thing for notes by using base-4 or base-5 and assigning each possible resulting umber to a note. I've actually found that by inputting a random number into a base-5 sequence you more often than not get an aesthetically pleasing melody out the other end. > As I try to not look at the screen much or at all when performing, But how do you play solitare without looking at the screen? Best, Chris. ------------------- chris(a)mccormick.cx http://mccormick.cx

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log~ / exp~
by Federico 05 Jan '05

05 Jan '05

are there any log~ / exp~ objects/externals? in which library are they located? i need them because i am converting a project from control-messages to audio. thanks in advance -- Federico

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subwindow loadbang
by nicob 05 Jan '05

05 Jan '05

hi all how to do to have a kind of [loadbang] who send a bang when i open a subpatch. a loadbang in a subwindow send bang when i open the main patch, i woul like to send a bang only when i open a subpatch thank you very much nicolas

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by ube boet 05 Jan '05

05 Jan '05

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Re: [PD] Re: [PD-dev] Re: prepend w/ set message - ignore
by Chris McCormick 04 Jan '05

04 Jan '05

> Message: 14 > Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 05:44:14 -0500 (EST) > From: Mathieu Bouchard <matju(a)sympatico.ca> > To: Johannes M Zmoelnig <zmoelnig(a)iem.at> > cc: pd-list(a)iem.at > Subject: Re: [PD] Re: [PD-dev] Re: prepend w/ set message - ignore > > > but it is turing complete, so who cares... > > Well, there are many turing-complete languages for which no-one expects > a quality experience when programming them. Examples are: > > * Turing Machine > * Lambda Calculus > * Game of Life <http://www.quinapalus.com/wi-index.html> Best regards, Chris. ------------------- chris(a)mccormick.cx http://mccormick.cx

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frequencies analyzer
by abel.jerome＠free.fr 04 Jan '05

04 Jan '05

I tried to build a frequencies analyser with 4 [bp~], and test the volume out. WHen I try with a simple [osc~ 440], the result is not enough nice. see it, a patch and an abstraction : http://impala.utopia.free.fr/pd/patchs/frequencies_analyser.zip Is there an another way to split frequence in 4 or 5 regions ? thanks. jr http://impala-utopia.org

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