Pd-list September 2004

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connecting Gem and Gridflow (Was: Re: [Gridflow-dev] feature requests: @fold1, @foldr, @foldr1, @scan1. @scanr, @scanr1, unary ignore)
by Claudius Maximus 08 Sep '04

08 Sep '04

--- Tom Schouten <doelie(a)zzz.kotnet.org> wrote: > > Most likely not, but I am working on a patch for > Puredata Trigger Gang > > Bang 1 - have you any tips for connecting Gem with > Gridflow? I'm > > experimenting with pix_snap, pix_dump and pix_set, > but unsuccessful so > > far in the 45mins I've spent on that aspect. > > What do you think about using pf for this? If > possible i'd like to make > gem and gridflow interface with pdp/pf in the same > matter, keep it a bit > simpler.. I managed to get Gridflow images into Gem like this: [loadbang] | grid[H][W][3] [ 255 ( | | [loadbang] [@cast float32] [@cast float32] | | | [RGB( [@ / ] / | [gemhead] [@export_list] |/ | [pix_set W H ] | useable-in-gem replace "RGB" with "RGBA" for 4-channel images Is there a way to cast Gridflow operators directly so I don't have to cast both inputs? My experiments trying to get Gem output into Gridflow with [pix_snap], [pix_dump] and [@import] have so far been unsuccessful, possibly because the float to int conversion is happening at the wrong time - I end up with a grid full of 0s. ===== -- http://www.claudiusmaximus.tk Each unsolicited commercial email received is subject to a US$50 handling fee. ___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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Re: [PD] Re: quickcam 4000 and Gem
by jim ruxton 08 Sep '04

08 Sep '04

Depends on the camera. Look here http://qce-ga.sourceforge.net/ and here http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/ . Jim > hopefully not too off-topic, where can i get linux drivers for a > logitech quickcam? > thankee > r > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > % evol~~~~~~ http://www.mego.at/evol.html > % alku~~~~~~ http://personal.ilimit.es/principio > % imbécil~~~ http://imbecil.net > > > > hi jim, > > > > no, i did not get it to work, and the only info from the list was that > > it should work. i send this email to list, so that people know that > > it's not only me.. > > > > max > > > > > > > > Am 07.09.2004 um 08:56 schrieb Jim Ruxton: > > > >> Hi Max, > >> I recently saw a post on the PD list in which you had trouble getting > >> a quickcam 4000 working with Gem. I'm having the same problem and was > >> wondering if you got it to work. Thanks. > >> Jim > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > >

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Gem crash in Trigger Gang Bang patch
by Frank Barknecht 08 Sep '04

08 Sep '04

Hi, as I'm a Gem dork, I don't know, at all, why the Trigger Gang Bang patch keeps crashing at always the same position (after the first 16 bars.) I can however provide a backtrace, maybe this can be a hint: wt?!: and hop Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. [Switching to Thread 1076242848 (LWP 20958)] 0x4019c44c in mallopt () from /lib/tls/libc.so.6 (gdb) bt #0 0x4019c44c in mallopt () from /lib/tls/libc.so.6 #1 0x0809b55b in atom_string (a=0x4025eedc, buf=0x2f102f0 <Address 0x2f102f0 out of bounds>, bufsize=1162937064) at m_atom.c:83 #2 0x4050715f in TextBase::textMess () from /usr/lib/pd/extra/Gem.pd_linux #3 0x405072d0 in TextBase::textMessCallback () from /usr/lib/pd/extra/Gem.pd_linux #4 0x08099477 in pd_typedmess (x=0x824fae0, s=0x425ffff8, argc=1, argv=0x80ee5b0) at m_class.c:656 #5 0x0809aac7 in outlet_anything (x=0x2f102f1, s=0x81fd750, argc=1, argv=0x80ee5b0) at m_obj.c:385 #6 0x080990c6 in pd_typedmess (x=0x824f704, s=0x425ffff8, argc=1, argv=0x80ee5b0) at m_class.c:740 #7 0x0809c654 in binbuf_eval (x=0x48, target=0x824f704, argc=0, argv=0x0) at m_binbuf.c:578 #8 0x08060ab5 in message_bang (x=0x48) at g_text.c:294 #9 0x0809853f in pd_bang (x=0x48) at m_pd.c:269 #10 0x0809a88b in outlet_bang (x=0x2f102f1) at m_obj.c:323 #11 0x0809861a in bindlist_bang (x=0x48) at m_pd.c:269 #12 0x080994f7 in pd_typedmess (x=0x828bb38, s=0x425ffff8, argc=0, argv=0x80ee5a8) at m_class.c:632 #13 0x0809c654 in binbuf_eval (x=0x48, target=0x828bb38, argc=0, argv=0x0) at m_binbuf.c:578 #14 0x08060ab5 in message_bang (x=0x48) at g_text.c:294 #15 0x0809853f in pd_bang (x=0x48) at m_pd.c:269 #16 0x0809a88b in outlet_bang (x=0x2f102f1) at m_obj.c:323 #17 0x0809853f in pd_bang (x=0x48) at m_pd.c:269 #18 0x0809853f in pd_bang (x=0x48) at m_pd.c:269 #19 0x0809a88b in outlet_bang (x=0x2f102f1) at m_obj.c:323 #20 0x08098567 in pd_float (x=0x48, f=3.54134556e-37) at m_pd.c:274 #21 0x0809a96f in outlet_float (x=0x2f102f1, f=384) at m_obj.c:355 #22 0x0809865e in bindlist_float (x=0x48, f=384) at m_pd.c:274 #23 0x08098567 in pd_float (x=0x48, f=3.54134556e-37) at m_pd.c:274 #24 0x08098567 in pd_float (x=0x48, f=3.54134556e-37) at m_pd.c:274 #25 0x0809a96f in outlet_float (x=0x2f102f1, f=384) at m_obj.c:355 #26 0x080c9153 in pdint_bang (x=0x2f102f1) at x_connective.c:33 #27 0x0809853f in pd_bang (x=0x48) at m_pd.c:269 #28 0x0809a88b in outlet_bang (x=0x2f102f1) at m_obj.c:323 #29 0x080a1066 in m_scheduler () at m_sched.c:357 #30 0x080a40af in sys_main (argc=72, argv=0x81f4838) at s_main.c:263 #31 0x080a78eb in main (argc=72, argv=0x48) at s_entry.c:49 (gdb) Any ideas what might cause this? It is using the Debian package of Gem-0.90 and Pd 0.37 Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__

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Re: quickcam 4000 and Gem
by Max Neupert 08 Sep '04

08 Sep '04

hi jim, no, i did not get it to work, and the only info from the list was that it should work. i send this email to list, so that people know that it's not only me.. max Am 07.09.2004 um 08:56 schrieb Jim Ruxton: > Hi Max, > I recently saw a post on the PD list in which you had trouble getting > a quickcam 4000 working with Gem. I'm having the same problem and was > wondering if you got it to work. Thanks. > Jim

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What Visual patch languages predate MAX?
by Sean Costello 08 Sep '04

08 Sep '04

Hi all: In the article "Max at Seventeen," Miller Puckette mentions that several computer music languages, including Oedit by Richard Steiger and Roger Hale, implemented the visual "patch language" concept before Max came out in 1986. What were some of these older visual patch languages? Did any of them implement DSP, as well as control signals? Thanks, Sean Costello

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Re: [PD] Pd-0.38-0test4HCS1 test release
by Stefan Tiedje 08 Sep '04

08 Sep '04

Christian Klotz wrote: >>> so I tried your pd.app - really nice work. But the help function out >>> of the context menu has problems. So I clicked "help" in the menu >>> and a patch called related shows up six times as well as the >>> requested help patch. After closing the help patch the complete >>> pd.app shuts down. >>> I also tried the pd.app from Miller Puckette, which didnt have this >>> help behaviour. >> >> >> I do not have this problem here, which help file did you call? > > > hmm, strange. I tried the send and the trigger help patch. Yes I can confirm, the send helpfile is kind of weird and seems to be called by the trigger help as well. It contains only three objects, universal, send, receive and no explanation whatsoever. How are theses files called by the way, some of them call up helpfiles which explain much more objects than I asked for. There must be a kind of mapping. It seems to be different than in max, where there is just an object.help within a special help path. Stefan -- [][] [][][] [][] [][][] [][] [][][] [][] [][][] [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Stefan Tiedje Klanggestaltung CD-Mastering /~~~~~\ Elektronische \\\ /|() ()|\ Komposition ))))) )| | |( \\\ & Improvisation /// \ \_/)/ ))))) \___/ /// ---------------------------- 9, rue Moreau -_____-----------|---------- 93200 Saint Denis -(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()--- France - _|_)----|-----()---------- CCMIX 01-49 77 51 72 ---------()-----------------

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Pd-0.38-0test4HCS1 test release
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 08 Sep '04

08 Sep '04

So I fixed up my code so it would fit in with existing code better, and further arranged the menus according to Apple's guidelines. I also made this version open double-clicked files properly. http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html Again, the patch to u_main.tk is included (since 0.38 isn't in the CVS yet). .hc ________________________________________________________________________ ____ Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how to realize his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either change them, or perish. -William Carlos Williams

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[GEM] Heliocoid + Demos
by beau 08 Sep '04

08 Sep '04

Hello PD List, Recently I was trying out some CsoundAV patches, and I came across one called a heliocoid, does Gem have a heliocoid GEO? Also I am interested in calberating with other on producing a demo for the "PURE DATA TRIGGER GANG BANG 01" My main idea is to recycle my Graz, Austria GEM installation submission. Right now it runs as two seperate patches. I would like some brilliant PD programmers to help me convert it to a single patch and test it on various systems. If you are interested I will send you the patches http://geocities.com/recursionvideolab/

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gem2pdp compilation
by metafor＠gmx.net 08 Sep '04

08 Sep '04

hi list try to compile gem2pdp, configuration works, but when i try to compile, it stucks. i tried different pdp-versions also 0.9, but so far no result, also changing gem from 0.9 to 0.87 was not succesfull, what could it be. thanks for some hints marc looking for gem sources (required) ... ok. looking for pdp sources (required) ... ok. configure: creating ./config.status config.status: creating Makefile metafor:/home/metafor/download/gem2pdp-0.5# make clean rm -f *.o rm -f gem2pdp.pd_linux rm -f pdp2gem.pd_linux metafor:/home/metafor/download/gem2pdp-0.5# make cat /home/metafor/download/pdp-0.9/include/pdp.h | grep -v m_pd > pdp-light.h g++ -DPD -O2 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -ffast-math -Wall -W -Wno-unused -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch -DGEM2PDP_VERSION=\"0.5\" -g -I/home/metafor/pdevel-0.37_clean/src -I. -I/home/metafor/download/pdp-0.9/include -I/mnt/USB_WORK/gempd/gem-0.90.0/src -o gem2pdp.o -c gem2pdp.cpp gem2pdp.cpp: In member function `virtual void gem2pdp::bangMess()': gem2pdp.cpp:96: error: `pdp_packet_new_image_YCrCb' undeclared (first use this function) gem2pdp.cpp:96: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each function it appears in.) gem2pdp.cpp:125: error: `pdp_packet_pass_if_valid' undeclared (first use this function) make: *** [gem2pdp.o] Error 1 metafor:/home/metafor/download/gem2pdp-0.5#

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volctl~: an advanced volume control external
by Tim Blechmann 07 Sep '04

07 Sep '04

hi all, i'm able to announce the first release of volctl~ an advanced volume control external... it is more or less doing the same as: |line~| | | |*~| | but doesn't have the dsp overhead ... requirements: - gcc (since it uses gcc advanced assembler) - pd >= devel_0_37 (since it's based on vector aligned dsp blocks) known issues: - icc seems to have problems with the gcc inline assembler (segfault) - probably won't compile with msvc todo: - rewrite the whole dsp function in assembler (near future) - rewrite the dsp function for msvc (distant future, if ever) any feedback like bug reports, comments or similar are highly appreciated ... the source is available from cvs or from www.mokabar.tk ... cheers ... tim -- mailto:TimBlechmann@gmx.de ICQ: 96771783 http://www.mokabar.tk After one look at this planet any visitor from outer space would say "I want to see the manager." William S. Burroughs

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