Pd-list November 2004

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firwire soundcard
by jon＠it-snedkeren.dk 15 Nov '04

15 Nov '04

hi all i'm currently looking for a firewire soundcard with mircrophone preamp/s - so that i can connect condenser mikrophones... so far i have two cards in mind: m-audio 4-10 and est quatafire 610 - do any of you know them? if yes - how do they work with pd + what are your experince with them? are there others that you can recoment... any pointers will be highly aprciated - thanks. -jon

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error: .x8a0730: no such object
by abel.jerome＠free.fr 15 Nov '04

15 Nov '04

hi list, I have this message error " error: .x8a0730: no such object" in the shell I'm on windows2000 / pd0.37. I don't understand this message (i'm not a cryptological expert ... ) I remember see this before ... any idea ? thanks jerome

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mmmm... devel_0_38 compile errors...
by Ian Smith-Heisters 15 Nov '04

15 Nov '04

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I'm not sure if we're trying to use the sf bug tracker these days, but this may be my stupidity rather than a bug.. got the new CVS (9:15ish AM EST, Sunday 11/14/04) by totally expunging the old sources and checking out devel_0_38. cd src autoconf ./configure --prefix=$HOME --enable-jack --enable-fftw - --enable-threadedgui --enable-threadedsf --enable-gathreadlocks - --enable-setuid make depend all those went without an apparent hitch. make chugged along for a while then I got this: cd ../obj; cc -Wl,-export-dynamic -lasound -o ../bin/pd g_canvas.o g_graph.o g_text.o g_rtext.o g_array.o g_template.o g_io.o g_scalar.o g_traversal.o g_guiconnect.o g_readwrite.o g_editor.o g_all_guis.o g_bang.o g_hdial.o g_hslider.o g_mycanvas.o g_numbox.o g_toggle.o g_vdial.o g_vslider.o g_vumeter.o m_pd.o m_class.o m_obj.o m_atom.o m_memory.o m_binbuf.o m_conf.o m_glob.o m_sched.o s_main.o s_inter.o s_file.o s_print.o s_loader.o s_path.o s_entry.o s_audio.o s_midi.o d_ugen.o d_ctl.o d_arithmetic.o d_osc.o d_filter.o d_dac.o d_misc.o d_math.o d_fft.o d_mayer_fft.o d_fftroutine.o d_array.o d_global.o d_delay.o d_resample.o x_arithmetic.o x_connective.o x_interface.o x_midi.o x_misc.o x_time.o x_acoustics.o x_net.o x_qlist.o x_gui.o d_soundfile.o s_midi_oss.o s_audio_oss.o s_audio_alsa.o s_audio_alsamm.o m_simd.o m_simd_sse_gcc.o m_simd_sse_vc.o m_simd_ve_gcc.o \ @PDLIB@ cc: @PDLIB@: No such file or directory make: *** [../bin/pd] Error 1 ian@eks-02:~/cvs/pure-data/pd/src$ Usually I would spend hours trying to fix this before posting to the list, but I haven't seen an error like this before, and don't really know where to start. This is on Debian w/ a custom kernel 2.6.8, running w/ an AMD k7 2100+ for what that's worth. LMK if there's any information you would like (pertaining to this problem; no credit card numbers however much you want them). Any tips? Thanks, Ian -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFBl5iKtwt54ChzVgcRAs1gAJ0dJkTDRikOAusTZ/rsunrG1yDLMQCfUUFR /NdjQpQUiwI49cBBSxuBih8= =qv82 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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writesf~ issue
by " <tboulanger＠voila.fr> 15 Nov '04

15 Nov '04

Oye, another post... Hmmm, last night I made a little patch which aims at recording radio shows directly on my computer. It simply consists in a timebang connected to a start and stop messages so that the record starts at a certain time of the day and stops at another time. start and stop are directly connected to a writesf~ object upon which I've previously sent a "open path/tmp.wav" message to create a 16 bit wav file. All this stuff seems to work well except the fact that when writesf~ receives the start message... nothing happen... there's no recording of what my dac~ outputs on my HD disk. Did I forget an action that makes my HD disk ready to collect datas ? What's wrong with that ? Another time, thanks for your support ! Have a good day ------------------------------------------ Faites un voeu et puis Voila ! www.voila.fr

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Re: Re: [PD] Pure Data crashes
by " <tboulanger＠voila.fr> 15 Nov '04

15 Nov '04

Hi list ! Indeed, I've had a little bug in my patch, may be that's why my system crashed... I tried for about an hour and every thing seemed OK (if I'm right, crashes occured while changing the patch on absynth Vsti but still transmitting MIDI events to it) I'm running XP pro, cubase Vst5 R4 and absynth Vsti. Hubi's loopback device is intended for Win95, not XP pro I'll also have a check to the latest Midisport drivers and let you know whether some crashes occur again Thanx to you regards touti > Message du 12/11/04 à 14h49 > De : "Ian Smith-Heisters" > A : tboulanger(a)voila.fr > Copie à : pd-list(a)iem.at > Objet : Re: [PD] Pure Data crashes > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > What are the versions of all your software? Are you running Win XP Pro > or Home? What are you running it on? > > Thanks, > Ian > > " wrote: > | Hi list ! > | > | Assuming that I have a midi keyboard (namely Oxygen8 keystation) and an > | internal MIDI router (Midi Yoke) I've planned to do a MIDI transformer > | with PD and then feed my sequencer (eg. cubase) with the transformed > | events : > | > | PD grabs the Kestation MIDI input, transforms MIDI messages and sends > | the result into MIDI Yoke 1 > | > | Cubase is set in such a maneer that it grabs what is sent out by MIDI > | Yoke 1. > | > | At first sight it seems to work : when pressing a key on my keystation, > | my VSTi on cubase plays what has been transformed by PD. > | > | What disturbs me is that whithin a few minutes, PD and Cubase crash so I > | have to restart my computer. You'll understand that it could become > | really painfull to make a track if both applications crash. > | > | I took "a lot" of precautions eg. desactivated audio on PD so that only > | cubase grabs the audio ports (ASIO) > | > | I'm working on Win XP and when crashes occur, it seems that the Minidump > | folder is the cause of the problem. > | > | Does anyone had such a (bad) experience on XP ? Is there any solution ? > | > | Thanks for your support > | > | touti > | > | > | ------------------------------------------ > | > | Faites un voeu et puis Voila ! www.voila.fr > | > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFBlOl9twt54ChzVgcRAvmZAJ9VylUGFRM97+FZaRAxK+K99xwS5gCfS7HN > aWWxvypcSt2GiX/7DFmY4Lc= > =ggjV > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > ------------------------------------------ Faites un voeu et puis Voila ! www.voila.fr

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linux midi question
by derek holzer 15 Nov '04

15 Nov '04

I've noticed that PD seems to need exclusive access to the OSS MIDI device on my system. In QJackctl, for example, the first DSP MIDI port refuses to connect to anything when PD has ahold of it. In fact, I can't even 'cat' the raw device when PD is using it. I'd like to also use MIDI with Ardour, for example. Is there a way to give PD non-exclusive use of the MIDI ports? thx, d. -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 207: "Take away as much mystery as possible. What is left?"

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pdp crop snapshot
by Ian Smith-Heisters 15 Nov '04

15 Nov '04

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Howdy, I'm trying to capture sections of the pdp_xv window and then add them back in. I've got everything figured out except how to get the actual snapshot. I tried the pidip screen capture, which worked great, except that it reads the xv as being solid blue, which actually is what I was expecting. I guess pdp_snap would be the best way to go, but I can't figure out what clever set of objects would crop it. I could save the snap as a png, write a shell script to crop it with imagemagick and then load it back in, but that seems silly with all these powerful image manip objects lying around, I just don't know which ones to use.. It needs to have some way of getting XY info so that I can click on the XV and have it do the snapshot automatically. Thanks for any tips, Ian -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFBmCnUtwt54ChzVgcRAqA8AJ408SX2JVbrNE01Q4KdthO4SADW7gCgprc9 txPKrWzU2yWgyogk+yFudMU= =e1Po -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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using Pd with a Digi 001 ?
by prokoschnov 15 Nov '04

15 Nov '04

Hi ! I try to use Pure Data with a mac G4-733 MHz and a digi 001 I tried to use the last version of jack os x (version 0.51). I did not work As I use the jack version 0.4, the jack server recognize the digidesign digi 001 interface. But Pure Data still does not work. Does anyone had the same problem, and found a solution ? Thank you for your answer. If you need to, I may give you other efficient informations to solve the problem. Prokoschnov. error message = could not open midi output device number 1: Invalid device ID. DigiCoreAudioDriver> Found 9 entries in 'SupportedApps.txt'. using default input device number: 0 using default output device number: -1 nchan 2, flags 3, bufs 8, framesperbuf 256 Error number -9999 occured opening portaudio stream Error message: Invalid number of channels.

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Re: [PD] labeling buttons for [hid]
by Macciza Macpherson 14 Nov '04

14 Nov '04

Hi I'd go with the numbering system if that is the USB HID Spec but I also like the idea of the descriptive names as well. How about using names but translating ultimately into numbers? Can OSC be worked in here somehow so we can deal with descriptive hierarchies and broadcast our actions easily?? Is there any way to query the devices and get them to tell you what the buttons do?? Just a few thoughts. Cheers Macca On 14/11/2004, at 4:30 PM, pd-list-request(a)iem.at wrote: > > Message: 4 > To: PD List <pd-list(a)iem.at> > From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans(a)eds.org> > Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 18:02:43 -0500 > Subject: [PD] labeling buttons for [hid] > > > --Apple-Mail-12--326803946 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset=US-ASCII; > delsp=yes; > format=flowed > > > So I wanted to throw out an idea to see what people think. I am > working on a cross-platform scheme for naming the buttons on devices > like mice, joysticks, tablets, etc. Each OS has its own scheme, with > some similarities. But I am making a common scheme so that patches > that use [hid] will work on all platforms. Right now, I am wondering > how I should label buttons. > > MacOS X HID Manager simply numbers the buttons, I think Windows does a > similar thing since both are based on the USB HID spec. The Linux > input event system uses button names, like btn_left, btn_middle (mice); > btn_trigger, btn_base (joysticks); btn_a, btn_select (gamepads); > btn_tool_pen, btn_stylus (tablets); with a different naming scheme for > each device type. > > I started out just copying the Linux system outright for a number of > reasons, but now I am thinking that button numbers probably make a lot > more sense. Here are some advantages/disadvantages that I see: > > button numbers: > advantages: > more efficient to use floats rather than symbols > much easier to implement on MacOS X > patches written for buttons on one device would work for other > devices (i.e. a patch written > for a mouse could be triggered by the buttons of a joystick, tablet, > etc.) > disadvantages: > user has to test the device to find the numbering scheme, rather than > reading the label > slightly harder to implement on GNU/Linux > > Any thoughts, comments, feedback, etc would be appreciated. > > .hc > > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > ____ > > There is no way to peace, peace is the way. > -A.J. Muste

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Pd on pure64 : Wrong value of array or tabread !
by ludovic watteaux 14 Nov '04

14 Nov '04

Hi ! If anybody use pd on a pure64 linux environement (Debian sid) for a amd64 machine and can help me ! I've problem with array and tabread , tabplay~, ... : I open the tabread help and clic the message box to put the values in array99 and the output of the index of [tabread array99] is totaly wrong. Morever i can't change the name of an array because i can't have the second window properties to do that when i get the properties of an array. It's so sad ! Greetings Ludo

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