Pd-list October 2004

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Re: [PD] Gem initial trial run errors.
by thewade 11 Oct '04

11 Oct '04

> does video-playback work generally ? try mplayer and qtplay (!) I have neither of this apps installed, but xine plays my dvds... Video does work though, as you suggested with pix_draw (see below) > check Base/configLinux.h /* ../Base/configLinux.h. Generated by configure. */ #define HAVE_LIBFTGL 1 /* #undef HAVE_LIBGLTT */ /* #undef HAVE_LIBMPEG */ #define HAVE_LIBMPEG3 1 #define HAVE_LIBQUICKTIME 1 #define HAVE_LIBAVIPLAY 1 /* #undef HAVE_LIBAVFORMAT */ /* #undef HAVE_LIBAVCODEC */ #define HAVE_LIBDV 1 /* #undef HAVE_MMX */ examples/04.pix/05.film.pd quicktime_delete_vcodec_stub called and pix_film:: quicktime4linux support pix_film:: libmpeg3 support GEM: Start rendering pix_texture: not using client storage GEM: pix_film: unsupported CODEC \'IV32\'! (homer.avi) with a different movie: quicktime_delete_vcodec_stub called and GEM: pix_film: Loaded file: /usr/local/lib/pd/doc/gem/examples/04.pix/../data/anim-1.mov with 90 frames (256x256) and the last movie: the toc warning and GEM: pix_film: Loaded file: /usr/local/lib/pd/doc/gem/examples/04.pix/../data/alea.mpg with 31 frames (320x240) pix_texture seems to be the error because when I replace everything below pix_film in 05.film.pd with pix_draw I can see video (the alea.mpg video). What dows this mean? Is the address of the texture space on the video card being mis-addressed somehow (just a 64bit guess)? Thanks for the help! -thewade

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GEM: displaying Pictures on MIDI Keyboard events, pix_image vs. pix_imageInPlace
by Max Neupert 11 Oct '04

11 Oct '04

hi list, another probably stupid beginner question: as far as i understood the help patches i should use pix_imageInPlace instead of pix_image because of better performance. i do not get the usage of pix_imageInPlace it does not really work for me, where is the problem? I also get these "is not the power of two" errors all the time, although the pictures are all 400 x 400 pixels, what's the reason? it says quite often in the help files that one should use only .tiff files, but .jpg seems to work as well, what about that? i was comparing the performance of LZW compressed tiffs and uncompressed ones, and had the impression that without compression it runs a bit better. do you agree? so many questions, one patch: thanks, max

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Re: [PD] Gem initial trial run errors.
by thewade 11 Oct '04

11 Oct '04

Sorry about the delay, Im trying to get the voulentary-preemption kernel working... Here is my configure output: FTGL support: yes GLTT support: no libmpeg3 support: yes libquicktime support: yes aviplay support: yes libdv support: yes I rebuilt my FTGL to include -fPIC and now I get a different (but similar) error when I try to build gem: g++ -o Gem.pd_linux -shared ../Manips/*.o ../Particles/*.o ../Base/*.o ../MarkEx/*.o ../Pixes/*.o ../Controls/*.o ../Nongeos/*.o ../Geos/*.o ../openGL/*.o -laviplay -lftgl -ldv -lmpeg3 -lquicktime -laviplay -lpng -ljpeg -ltiff -lGLU -lGL -lXext -lXxf86vm -lXext -lX11 -ldl -lz -lm -L/usr/X11R6/lib64 -lfreetype -lz /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/3.4.1/libstdc++.a(ios_init.o): relocation R_X86_64_32 can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/3.4.1/libstdc++.a: could not read symbols: Bad value collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make: *** [Gem.pd_linux] Error 1 libstdc++-3.4.1-10.x86_64.rpm made the source compile finaly. I still get the following messages: pix_texture: not using client storage - with video clips I can see no movie files being played despite not getting error messages (except) mpeg3video_seek: frame accurate seeking without a table of contents is no longer supported. Use mpeg3toc <mpeg file> <table of contents> to generate a table of contents and load the table of contents instead. do video for this OS - even though I have video built into the kernel: http://www.aproximation.org/application/kernel-2.6.9-rc3.config (though I have no video camera pluged in) Gem has been compiled without FONT-support ! - I can see no fonts Any idea on how to get these things working? Thanks for the help and the software in the first place! -thewade

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Re: OSCprepend & rrad.tpl.pd
by chun lee 11 Oct '04

11 Oct '04

Hi there: Cool, I have now got the rrad.tpl working and had gone through the tutorials. I can start to see the way memento works. However, while trying to get the example.pd to work in the instruments directory, I found that I am missing external "any" and when switch the audio on and got the error from pligin~ as follow: error: plugin~: no method for 'control' I can't seem to find which package "any" belongs to and also a bit lost with plugin~. Cheers CHUN >Hallo, >chun lee hat gesagt: // chun lee wrote: > >> Thanks, I got it now. I kept loading up the rrad.tpl as a patch rather than >> thinking that its a abstraction....... My bad;) > >Well, actually my bad. :( > >I really intend to write a "All externals needed for RRADical" and a >"First steps with RRADical" document very soon. Honestly. ;) > >Ciao >-- > Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__

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RE: [PD] WinXP: Using Mouse as Generic Input Device?
by Ryan Supak 11 Oct '04

11 Oct '04

For Windows, at any rate, one fix is somewhere along this path, but I'm still on the lookout for a more pd-centric solution: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/winui/WinU… rs

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Cd player external?
by chun lee 11 Oct '04

11 Oct '04

Hi there: Just wondering if there is a cd player external that can play audio cd from the cd drive and output the audio in signal outlets? Cheers CHUN

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help building cvs
by Josh Steiner 11 Oct '04

11 Oct '04

hey, i'm trying to build cvs so that i can test the --enable-threadedsf option in my sound installation. here is output from my attempt to build it: [root@io25 src]# make cc -g -O2 -DPD -Wall -W -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-unused -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch -O6 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -DDL_OPEN -DPA_USE_OSS -DPA_LITTLE_ENDIAN -DUSEAPI_OSS -I../portaudio/pa_common -I../portaudio/pablio -I../portaudio/portmidi-macosx -fno-strict-aliasing -DPA_USE_ALSA -DUSEAPI_ALSA -DUSEAPI_JACK -DINSTALL_PREFIX=\"/usr/local\" -I. -c -o ../obj/s_main.o s_main.c s_main.c: In function `openit': s_main.c:188: warning: implicit declaration of function `close' s_main.c: In function `sys_findprogdir': s_main.c:495: error: `statbuf' undeclared (first use in this function) s_main.c:495: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once s_main.c:495: error: for each function it appears in.) make: *** [s_main.o] Error 1 --- any idea what im missing? -- ________________________________________________________________ live experimental electronic music -- http://bluevitriol.com independent u.s. drum'n'bass -- http://vitriolix.com

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Re: [rradical]example.pd bugs?
by chun lee 10 Oct '04

10 Oct '04

Hi there: >Well, some of the patches in rradical are well tested, others aren't. >You found the not-so-well tested ones first. Some well-tested ones >are: > >rrad.fm2~ >rrad.adsr~ >rrad.pattseq >rrad.nseq >rrad.delay~.pd >rrad.eros~.pd >rrad.rev1~.pd >rrad.lop~ >rrad.angriff~ >speakerboxx >rrad.minipli >rrad.split~ >rrad.metro >rrad.fluid~ Thanks for the list, I will look into these patches and see if I can Rradical my drum patches too. >I now checked in a version which has all "-in" and -out" removed. This >is much easier to work with and less errorprone. > >There also is checked in a rrad.scale.pd now, and "scale" was replaced >in all (or most, in case I missed some) patches, that used maxlib "scale". > > >I forgot to check these into CVS, sorry for the confusion. I will add >them ASAP. I was conviced they were checked in, but they are just on >my own disk. :( > >Anyway, you can also get the package from my site until Sourceforge >catches up at: >http://footils.org/pkg/showcase.tgz Cool, so I will wait a bit and check rradical out from the CVS again. > >Thanks a lot for your patience and reports!! No probs:) Cheers CHUN

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Re: [PD] [rradical]careGUI.pd + openpanel
by chun lee 10 Oct '04

10 Oct '04

Hi there: >> Was just looking at the careGUI.pd and realized that there is no button to >> to load the existing preset .dat file. I have added a [bang] so that it >> opens a [openpanel] and then load the .dat file in [pool]. > >The way careGUI works, is that you first select a file to work on with >"FILE", then you save (SAVE) or restore (LOAD) to this file. So it's >two clicks to open a file with the current careGUI, but I like it >better that way, because it then is just one click to save as well. Ok, I didn't realize it works in that way. When I clicked on the "FILE" a save file panel opened and I did not know its for loading presets as well. > >> Also, when saving file in [careGUI], I realized that the file has to be >> saved with .dat extension, otherwise it won't work. Is this correct? > >I currently fight bad crashes here I need to find the reason for >(probably some c++ compilation issue), but I'm quite sure, you can >omit the .dat, as I remember, that I did this already. .dat is not >hardcoded anywhere in RRADical. I have only just found it, I will try it again and let you know. > >Ciao >-- > Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__

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Gem, Nvidia under Linux
by Jon B 10 Oct '04

10 Oct '04

I just got my Nvidia GeForce FX Go5200 (Dell Inspiron 8600 laptop) to work under Linux (Libranet). So after convincing myself it is really working by playing some 3D games, I try to run pd/gem. I use the command pd -rt -lib Gem and it gives the error: /usr/lib/pd/extra/Gem.pd_linux: libnvidia-tls.so.1: cannot handle TLS data Gem: can't load library So it looks like it found the library fine, but it has an issue with the nvidia drivers? Can someone point me in the right direction? pd/gem works fine under windows XP, as far as I can tell. the video playing I think had an error, but otherwise I got shapes and colors and stuff to work. Background: I have never had a computer capable of running gem before (so maybe it's not working perfectly in XP and I just don't know the difference) and I am pretty new to Linux. Unrelated: in windows, I used an installer that handled pd, gem, zexy, mjLib, cyclone, etc. etc. Is there a comparable package for Debian that combines a bunch of things so I don't need to install them all separately? Unrelated: what does -font 10 do? doesn't seem to have any effect when i change it in xp.

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