Pd-list December 1999

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by integer＠www.god-emil.dk 16 Dec '99

16 Dec '99

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Re: Proposal: Abstraction over the DSP graph
by Karl MacMillan 15 Dec '99

15 Dec '99

This is from the jmax list ( a post by John Whitley) and I had some questions about the description of PD. <snipped portion describes block~ for jmax users> > Miller's DSP graph abstraction technique solves a problem that has > been bugging me for years: how, within the visual language of Max, to > avoid needless rote duplication. > > A class that abstracts over a portion of the DSP graph can have > considerable expressive power. Two more sample applications of this > technique immediately come to mind: > > * "voice~" A voxalloc class reimplemented via DSP graph abstraction > within a patcher. voice~'s leftmost input is a control data input, > similar to the current voxalloc. Other inputs are duplicated in a > straightforward fashion. The contents of the patcher represents a > single prototypical voice, duplicated according to the number of > voices required. Each voice is transparently switch~'ed on only > when required, and the outputs of all voices are summed as with > block~. > > * A "bus~ <N>" class, that causes N copies of the patcher to be > connected in series, the output of each connected to the input of > the next. (Offhand, I recall seeing a Shepard tone patch on the > ISPW that used this bus technique.) Is the block~ object the only one that implements this type of abstraction at the moment? Has anyone done something like voice~? Any clarification about how this is currently implemented would be appreciated. Karl -- _____________________________________________________ | Karl W. MacMillan | | Peabody Institute of the Johns Hopkins University | | Network and Telecommunications Services | | karlmac(a)peabody.jhu.edu | | 410/659-8297 | -----------------------------------------------------

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Stupid Sin wave question
by Elliot Anderson 15 Dec '99

15 Dec '99

I need to generate a 60 Hz sin wave and be able to interactively control its amplitude. I also need to loop it indefinitely. How can I do this with PD? I don't know much about DSP so as explicit instructions as possible would be appreciated. Thanks, Elliot Anderson Elliot Anderson Lecturer, Electronic Media, Art Department University of California, Santa Cruz (831) 459-2955 http://www.sirius.com/~ewanders

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RE: pd + YellowdogLinux + PBG3
by Mark Danks 14 Dec '99

14 Dec '99

This is native Mac OS, not linuxPPC. Later, Mark ============================ = mdanks(a)stormfront.com = http://www.danks.org/mark ============================ > -----Original Message----- > From: Michal Seta [mailto:mis@music.mcgill.ca] > Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 1:58 PM > To: Mark Danks > Cc: msp(a)ucsd.edu; pd-list(a)iem.mhsg.ac.at > Subject: RE: pd + YellowdogLinux + PBG3 > > > On Tue, 14 Dec 1999, Mark Danks wrote: > > | I have been talking with Paul Ossenbrugen (a Mac > programmer who I used to > |work with). He is working on the Mac port...and has sound > working. The GUI > |runs at respectable speeds as well. The sound still drops > out, etc, but he > |has the basics working. > | > > Actually I meant Mac+LinuxPPC. Is this what you mean too? > OR is it Mac > with MacOS? in any case it's good news. > > > ..... .... > ...... Michal Seta ...... > ..... .... > >

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by integer＠www.god-emil.dk 14 Dec '99

14 Dec '99

>On Tue, 14 Dec 1999, Mark Danks wrote: > >| I have been talking with Paul Ossenbrugen (a Mac programmer who I used to >|work with). He is working on the Mac port...and has sound working. The GUI >|runs at respectable speeds as well. The sound still drops out, etc, but he >|has the basics working. >| > >Actually I meant Mac+LinuxPPC. Is this what you mean too? OR is it Mac >with MacOS? macos. > in any case it's good news. Paul Ossenbrugen (a Mac programmer who 1 korporat fascist intel serf used to |work with) has been working on the mac port for 3+ years. > >..... .... > ...... Michal Seta ...... >..... .... >music.mcgill.ca music.mcgill.ca = the new + improved western neo naziz - SSEkretar!at.0+55 f3.MASCHIN3NKUNST @www.m9ndfukc.org 17.hzV.tRL.478 e | | +---------- | | < \\----------------+ | n2t | > e

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RE: pd + YellowdogLinux + PBG3
by Mark Danks 14 Dec '99

14 Dec '99

I have been talking with Paul Ossenbrugen (a Mac programmer who I used to work with). He is working on the Mac port...and has sound working. The GUI runs at respectable speeds as well. The sound still drops out, etc, but he has the basics working. Still a little ways from a real release though... Later, Mark ============================ = mdanks(a)stormfront.com = http://www.danks.org/mark ============================ > -----Original Message----- > From: Michal Seta [mailto:mis@music.mcgill.ca] > Sent: Monday, December 13, 1999 9:17 PM > To: msp(a)ucsd.edu > Cc: pd-list(a)iem.mhsg.ac.at > Subject: Re: pd + YellowdogLinux + PBG3 > > > On Mon, 13 Dec 1999, Miller Puckette wrote: > > |Zowee, that's the first I've heard of anyone getting sound > out of Pd on a > |Mac! Not knowing the slightest thing about it, but haveing > spent many > > Actually, I've cried for help on a mac about a year ago... > Guenter talked > big endian little endian differences but I had no idea what > he was talking > about. > > | > |3. Try a sine wave at different amplitudes. If the timbre changes, > |it's either the format of the audio samples or else overflow > in the output. > | > I'd say this is the problem (well, one of these) > > > ..... .... > ...... Michal Seta ...... > ..... .... > > >

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pd + YellowdogLinux + PBG3
by Garry Kling 14 Dec '99

14 Dec '99

Ok, I'm a brave (or stupid) soul: I've been trying to run Pd on my Powerbook G3 on YellowDog Linux. So far, I've recompiled PD and it runs. The sound is far from satisfactory, and I am writing on the off chance that someone on the list has experience with this or a similar combination. If you have any tips, however small, my ears are open. Specifically, sound i/o is the biggest problem. I am using the -frags 4 option, but distortion still takes place. Any help/advice/admonition will help. Thanks in advance! Garry Kling klingg(a)cwu.edu

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RE: Gem & shutter-glasses ?
by Mark Danks 13 Dec '99

13 Dec '99

"In theory..." it should be possible to modify the GEM windowing code to do stereoscopic display. You would need to make a stereo buffered window and then render the Gem list (the rendering chain) twice, once for each eye. I have heard that someone modified GEM to work in a Cave (the 3d room with multiple displays), but haven't seen it or any code. Later, Mark ============================ = mdanks(a)stormfront.com = http://www.danks.org/mark ============================ > -----Original Message----- > From: umläute [mailto:zmoelnig@iem.mhsg.ac.at] > Sent: Monday, December 13, 1999 5:33 AM > To: Mark Danks; pd-list > Subject: Gem & shutter-glasses ? > > > Has anybody experimented with 3D-visualizations via shutter > glasses and > Gem (or at least OpenGL) ? > Is this possible anyhow ? > Which grfx-card to use ? > Does example-patches exist ? > > mfg.as.tb.as > iohannes m > forum::für::umläute > zmölnig >

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trouble loading ggext
by Bill Sack 13 Dec '99

13 Dec '99

hi list i built and installed pd-028, and now cannot load ggext: [bsack@t0ast pd]$ pd -frags 4 -verbose -lib ggext fragment count specified; using old-fashioned audio I/O Pd version 0.28 , compiled 14:13:08 Dec 11 1999 <. . . etc. . . .> tried /home/bsack/pd/ggext.pd_linux and succeeded /home/bsack/pd/ggext.pd_linux: /home/bsack/pd/ggext.pd_linux: undefined symbol : class_doaddbang ggext: can't load library it worked on an earlier version, so i'm pretty sure that ggext.pd_linux was built correctly. I've recompiled it, too, but that did not help. Anyone have an idea? thanks B -- _________ Bill Sack bsack(a)toast.net wsack(a)acsu.buffalo.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------ "'Michael Gilhaney,' said the Sergeant, 'is an example of a man that is nearly banjanxed from the principle of the Atomic Theory. Would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?'" -Flann O'Brien, "The Third Policeman" ------------------------------------------------------------------

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pd under maclinux
by Claude Le Berre 09 Dec '99

09 Dec '99

I plan to buy a laptop to make electronic music. I wanted to buy a G3 laptop and install linux on it (LinuxPPC). Is there anyone that has still make pd run under maclinux and is there any problems? And generally, what is the best choice to make music with laptop (powerPC or Pentium?) and for the powerpc (mklinux or linuxPPC)? Thank you for your answers. CLD

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