Patches item #1917574, was opened at 2008-03-17 21:01 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by eighthave You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478072&aid=1917574...
Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: puredata Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: marius schebella (mariusschebella) Assigned to: Miller Puckette (millerpuckette) Summary: fix absolute path support for [declare] and #X declare
Initial Comment: I am not sure if declare is working the way it is supposed to on OSX the object I am trying to create is [OSCroute]. I can create [oscx/OSCroute], but what I want to accomplish is to avoid the oscx prefix, so I tried [declare -stdpath extra/oscx] [declare -stdpath oscx] [declare -path extra/oscx] [declare -path oscx] [declare -stdlib extra/oscx] [declare -stdlib oscx] [declare -lib extra/oscx] [declare -lib oscx] I even tried [declare -stdpath extra/oscx] in combination with import oscx. and I get a console printout saying [import] loaded library: oscx, but OSCroute ... couldn't create don't know how to track down the error, or if I am maybe doing something wrong. pd-extended-0.40.3-20080222.
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Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave)
Date: 2008-05-22 15:26
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(repost of my pd-dev post)
The realpath() is definitely related. If you start Pd using a relative path, like I do when doing dev work (e.g. make && ../bin/pd), then sys_libdir will be a relative path. That means it is impossible to make absolute paths using sys_libdir, which is what I need to do to make [import] work, or loading libdirs with [declare -lib] and the libdir loader.
I can't see any problems that realpath() might cause.
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Comment By: Miller Puckette (millerpuckette) Date: 2008-05-22 13:21
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I patched 0.42 with th epart of it that dealt with declare... there's something else in the patch that invokes a "realpath" function I don't know about (and I assume won't compile as is) so I ignored that bit.
I think I should also update 0.41 since this is a fairly important bug fix and also a safe-looking one.
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Comment By: Hans-Christoph Steiner (eighthave) Date: 2008-05-21 14:19
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This patch should add support for absolute paths in [declare] and the #X declare lines in the .pd files. Here's the related commit for Pd-extended:
http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data?view=rev&revision=... File Added: fix_absolute_paths_for_declare-0.41.4.patch
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Comment By: marius schebella (mariusschebella) Date: 2008-05-06 12:45
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that's how -stdpath works on os x. it does not work for absolute paths, and seems to be relative to some directory outside of /Applications. I tried all relations with less ../ and from inside /Applications. declare -stdpath ../../../../../../../../Applications/Pd-0.40.3-extended-20080428.app/Contents/Resources/extra/boids maybe this helps. m.
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Comment By: marius schebella (mariusschebella) Date: 2008-05-04 13:35
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I just realized that I made some mistakes in the past and that declare actually is working better than I thought. here is what I forgot: 1) declare only takes effect when you open the patch. stupid, I think I read it, but... Some alleged "bugs" were caused by the assumption that it is enough to create a declare object and paths will be set... 2) no absolute paths! absolute paths work for -lib, but not for -path/-stdpath. at least on OS X it is not possible to set absolute paths (or at least I don't know how), all paths have to be relative to Pd (-stdpath) or to the patch (-path).
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Comment By: Roman Haefeli (reduzent) Date: 2008-03-20 09:38
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oops...
from some quick fix from before i accidently still had a symbolic link from /home/roman/extra pointing to /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/, that is why it found [bar] in that funny place:
/home/roman/extra/foo/bar.pd
tried again without the symlink: --------------------------------
tried /home/roman/declare_test.pd and succeeded tried /home/roman/../extra/foo/bar.l_i386 and failed tried /home/roman/bar.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bar.l_i386 and failed tried /home/roman/../extra/foo/bar.pd_linux and failed tried /home/roman/bar.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bar.pd_linux and failed tried /home/roman/../extra/foo/bar/bar.l_i386 and failed tried /home/roman/bar/bar.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bar/bar.l_i386 and failed tried /home/roman/../extra/foo/bar/bar.pd_linux and failed tried /home/roman/bar/bar.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bar/bar.pd_linux and failed tried /home/roman/../extra/foo/bar.pd and failed tried /home/roman/bar.pd and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bar.pd and failed tried /home/roman/../extra/foo/bar.pat and failed tried /home/roman/bar.pat and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bar.pat and failed
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Comment By: Roman Haefeli (reduzent) Date: 2008-03-20 07:49
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i just did the same test again on my box, ubuntu dapper i686:
tried /home/roman/declare_test.pd and succeeded tried /home/roman/extra/foo/bar.l_i386 and failed tried /home/roman/bar.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bar.l_i386 and failed tried /home/roman/extra/foo/bar.pd_linux and failed tried /home/roman/bar.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bar.pd_linux and failed tried /home/roman/extra/foo/bar/bar.l_i386 and failed tried /home/roman/bar/bar.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bar/bar.l_i386 and failed tried /home/roman/extra/foo/bar/bar.pd_linux and failed tried /home/roman/bar/bar.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bar/bar.pd_linux and failed tried /home/roman/extra/foo/bar.pd and succeeded
which means: - there is a difference between linux ppc and linux intel - currently linux intel is the _only_ platform where [declare] works as documented.
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Comment By: Roman Haefeli (reduzent) Date: 2008-03-20 07:20
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could we give this issue a higher priority? the longer [declare] is not working correctly, the more confusion it will cause. also it currently cannot be used to create portable patches, that work on every platform with every pd-distro, which i find would be the strong point in using [declare].
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Comment By: Roman Haefeli (reduzent) Date: 2008-03-20 07:11
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the same test on a ubuntu ppc machine with pd 0.41-4 compiled from source and installed to the default location gave similar results:
output from pd-window: ----------------------
tried /home/olivia/declare_test.pd and succeeded tried /home/olivia/extra/foo/bar.l_i386 and failed tried /home/olivia/bar.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bar.l_i386 and failed tried /home/olivia/extra/foo/bar.pd_linux and failed tried /home/olivia/bar.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bar.pd_linux and failed tried /home/olivia/extra/foo/bar/bar.l_i386 and failed tried /home/olivia/bar/bar.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bar/bar.l_i386 and failed tried /home/olivia/extra/foo/bar/bar.pd_linux and failed tried /home/olivia/bar/bar.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bar/bar.pd_linux and failed tried /home/olivia/extra/foo/bar.pd and failed tried /home/olivia/bar.pd and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bar.pd and failed tried /home/olivia/extra/foo/bar.pat and failed tried /home/olivia/bar.pat and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bar.pat and failed bar ... couldn't create
instantiating [foo/bar] works fine, which means, that installation of [bar] is correct and pd finds it in extra/foo.
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Comment By: Roman Haefeli (reduzent) Date: 2008-03-20 06:48
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while [declare -stdlib] seems to work, [declare -stdpath] doesn't work on windows as well. i created a folder 'foo' into the extra directory and put a file 'bar.pd' in there.
my test setup: --------------
pd installation path: D:\programme\pd-0.41\
pd executable: D:\programme\pd-0.41\bin\pd.exe
test-abstraction: D:\programme\pd-0.41\extra\foo\bar.pd
test-patch: D:\home\declare_test.pd
test-patch contains:
[declare -stdpath extra/foo]
[bar]
pd start command: D:\programme\pd-0.41\bin\pd.exe -verbose -open D:\home\declare_test.pd
output from pd-window: ----------------------
tried D:\home\declare_test.pd and succeeded tried D:\home\..\extra\foo\bar.m_i386 and failed tried D:\home\bar.m_i386 and failed tried D:\programme\pd-0.41\extra\bar.m_i386 and failed tried D:\home\..\extra\foo\bar.dll and failed tried D:\home\bar.dll and failed tried D:\programme\pd-0.41\extra\bar.dll and failed tried D:\home\..\extra\foo\bar\bar.m_i386 and failed tried D:\home\bar\bar.m_i386 and failed tried D:\programme\pd-0.41\extra\bar\bar.m_i386 and failed tried D:\home\..\extra\foo\bar\bar.dll and failed tried D:\home\bar\bar.dll and failed tried D:\programme\pd-0.41\extra\bar\bar.dll and failed tried D:\home\..\extra\foo\bar.pd and failed tried D:\home\bar.pd and failed tried D:\programme\pd-0.41\extra\bar.pd and failed tried D:\home\..\extra\foo\bar.pat and failed tried D:\home\bar.pat and failed tried D:\programme\pd-0.41\extra\bar.pat and failed bar ... couldn't create
it looks like [declare -stdpath] is adding the search path relative to the patch instead of relative to pd.
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